Sam Gear Lvl 99

What are some alternatives to Rose Strap for Masa users? I've asked before with no response. Due to inconsitancies in my play time, it is basically out of the question.

Yes, second hit is effected by sTP.
(1 TP/hit) * (1 + (Total Store TP / 100))

Curious on how my SAM sets are, I'm recently new to SAM but I've got the gear to be able to have it as a well geared DD.

TP:

(Unsure if Portus Collar will out beat the Mala, I think that the 3+acc is more important)

WS: (Shoha)

(I know that the earring is pretty bad to use, however I have no other options in what I can use as of now).

If you have mala, I'd use that instead, and if you really need the accuracy in that slot, I'd use something with more acc.
3% DA is +3 extra hits over 100 swings, while 2% QA is 6 extra hits over 100 swings

Yeah, I do have the mala. I've always been unsure what to use and I find the Portus Collar very helpful in certain situations.

Can't back this up with any kind of math, but I'm fairly sure 3acc would'nt make portus better than mala, and if you really need acc, agasaya\ziel charm would be better options.

Use avant +1 legs for shoha. Other than that and the earring you're not *that* too far off. Justiciar's should be another upgrade too, someone'll probably correct me on that if I'm wrong.



You only need 30 store tp with a 464 delay GK. That means you can replace kappa with sugemino, rose strap with pole grip, hag stone with whatever else sam can use, and tyrant's ring with whatever else sam can use. Also don't think portus would beat mala unless you're seriously behind on acc (and even then...).


3 hit zanshin build, bro.


but no, last guy was mostly correct... I'm paranoid and like to make sure I'll have at least 100 tp even if I miss that second hit of shoha (or whatever it is at the time). If I have a small amount of overflow because I got hit or whatever the reason... that's fine, fudo and shoha's damage are directly affected by tp lol.

Why Avant legs over Ogier's?

I thought Avant legs were if you don't have Ogier's breeches.

well, using "off the top of my head I don't really care to do much more than that right now because it's 4:30am and I can't sleep" math...

3% DA (just counting this 3% DA) is an extra 3 hits per 100 attacks.

2% QA (just counting this 2% QA) is an extra 6 hits per 100 attacks.

That means you're getting double the amount of extra attacks from mala over portus. Add in the fact that DA won't proc over TA or QA and you're getting slightly less than 3 extra hits per 100 attacks.

so unless you're below ~50% accuracy (if you are, you shouldn't be using either neck...) then mala's going to win.

That used to be the rule for Ukko's until (we think, I still personally haven't seen any conclusive testing...) it was found out that the 3% weaponskill damage only gets applied to the first hit of your weaponskill, meaning the second hit of Ukko's (and Shoha's too) wouldn't get that 3% extra damage.

Also, Shoha != Ukko's.

Shoha's heavily affected by STR (100% STR mod says hi) and attack.

Add the double attack and it's a much better set of legs for shoha. I could give you exact values in the morning, (or afternoon, whenever I get to sleep then wake up x.x...) but I really just don't care to do the math right now.

No need for the math, I appreciate you just giving me answers!

Well, that's upsetting to know it only applies to your first hit, otherwise they would be some amazing WS legs, I guess I'll have to grab me a pair of those legs.

Thank you.

I see that ninja edit! (unless I didn't see you put the bolded part there originally and I actually am that tired...)

That was'nt a ninja edit :P I were just faster than you!

hey guys just came back to the game,

was wondering if anyone uses a tp build with oneiros ring and mp merits?

Nope.

How does this look for Fudo?

I swap to Mekira-Oto +1 on corresponding days.
Shura Zunari Kabuto +1 augments are:
5 Attack 3WSD 3SCD

I dunno what your TP set looks like, but that seems a little lacking on store TP to keep a 5 hit.

Hasso

Seigan

If it matters I normally have some form of Regain when I play SAM mostly use it in Neo Nyzul where embravas regain makes up for the lack of store TP

I only count 21 TP per hit, but WS should be 16 anyways.

I would lose one of those str rings for the rajas to keep your 5hit.

He has a 5 hit. 21 x 4 + 16 = 100.

Do you think it would be best do ditch the Pyrosoul and keep Strigoi?

If you're going to use usu boots, which you shouldn't, you don't need the 8 store TP on WS.

Was not aware Usukane Sune-Ate were not good :/

If you're gonna use Ogier's Breeches, I would use Saotome Sune-ate+2 for Fudo - this way you can WS in Thew bomblet (zerk-up)/Poestas Bomblet (zerk-down).

Also, wouldn't that Shura+1 win for zerk-up set for Fudo?

Unless you have phos +1, you're not capping haste. And if you're in neo nyzul, you don't need the acc, don't need the extra store tp, and the extra haste from ace's is exponentially better.

Saotome Sune-ate do not exist.

Lock drops from Dyna-Jeuno/Valkurm (works best as solo). You'll get it rather fast this way.

I forgot about those boots, but yes those with potestas/thew would be better.