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 Asura.Failaras
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-06-09 15:32:58  
Fodder that!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 15:33:14  
^ ^
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 15:40:09  
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
the best part is you got no amano 99, yet u base all the so called "TESTING" with your little calculator on other people with amano,consider yourself lucky you in cerb if not i would rip your sam a new *** on anything,rip so much that it would send your sam back to the middle ages where shinsokus and haguns lived.


fodder that.


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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-06-09 15:48:36  
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
the best part is you got no amano 99, yet u base all the so called "TESTING" with your little calculator on other people with amano,consider yourself lucky you in cerb if not i would rip your sam a new *** on anything,rip so much that it would send your sam back to the middle ages where shinsokus and haguns lived.


fodder that.

You should thank your lucky stars that breathing is an automated process; and we should curse them.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-09 15:49:33  
All math aside, Unkai Domaru looks better anyway. Rather look like a beet than a pumpkin.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-06-09 16:16:13  
I have an Amano and I fear nothing from this so called destroyer.

Destroyer of what, blow up dolls?

mi riet???
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-06-09 16:47:32  
LOL Jesus christ..
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the best part is you got no amano 99, yet u base all the so called "TESTING" with your little calculator on other people with amano,consider yourself lucky you in cerb if not i would rip your sam a new *** on anything,rip so much that it would send your sam back to the middle ages where shinsokus and haguns lived.


fodder that.

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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-06-09 16:59:19  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer said: »
the best part is you got no amano 99, yet u base all the so called "TESTING" with your little calculator on other people with amano,consider yourself lucky you in cerb if not i would rip your sam a new *** on anything,rip so much that it would send your sam back to the middle ages where shinsokus and haguns lived.


fodder that.

You should thank your lucky stars that breathing is an automated process; and we should curse them.

Made me laugh , alot.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-09 17:34:35  
Asura.Failaras said: »
Fodder that!
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By Gimpness 2012-06-09 17:35:20  
Shiva.Paulu said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
Fodder that!

oh god ;-; I can't stop laughing.

all my [+]'s :x...
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-09 17:49:57  
Shiva.Paulu said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
Fodder that!


Lolololololol
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By Siren.Hellscream 2012-06-09 17:55:21  
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-09 18:04:24  
The ***.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-06-09 18:15:33  
Is it already vacation week at the home? :\ I was not prepared!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evilddstroyer 2012-06-09 18:49:01  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Shiva.Paulu said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
Fodder that!


Lolololololol

indeed.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-06-09 20:09:59  
I was wondering if the math people would take a look at these two sets and see which one comes out on top and by how much.

4hit Kikugosaku:


5hit Masamune:


Both sets would use this for Shoha:
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By Gimpness 2012-06-10 00:32:39  
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
Gimpness said: »
Rellikk said: »
I'm the gimpest SAM ever.


that ^

Would probably need a AM3 up/down sets, and then separate shoha and rana sets. Could also drop some of the stp needed in that set as it's a 450 GK so could maybe swap in some hasso/zanshin pieces or atheling or something.

well that was just a tp set :X (am3 is just oa2-3 so I don't see a need for an am3 set... unless we're factoring in tp overflow etc.)

and yes, I just double checked.. you can take out kappa and use af3 back as I said.
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By Gimpness 2012-06-10 00:34:53  
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
I was wondering if the math people would take a look at these two sets and see which one comes out on top and by how much.

4hit Kikugosaku:


5hit Masamune:


Both sets would use this for Shoha:

Believe you need rose for a 5hit with masa/amano... but should be 99 Amano > 90 Masa > 95 Amano > everything else (not including mythic, of course.)

and obviously mess with the shoha set if it needs acc (mala to gorget blah blah blah)


I'm sure all of this has already been said somewhere though >_>
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2012-06-10 04:01:07  
Shiva.Paulu said: »
Asura.Failaras said: »
Fodder that!

AHAHAHAHAH awesome!

Gimpness said: »


well that was just a tp set :X (am3 is just oa2-3 so I don't see a need for an am3 set... unless we're factoring in tp overflow etc.)

and yes, I just double checked.. you can take out kappa and use af3 back as I said.

Missed you say about the back originally but I might have been day dreaming.

Insane tp phases is why I mentioned a possible AM3 tp set but it's such uncharted territory not sure which pieces would excel. Rancor collar over ganesha's mala maybe but thats a big if as QA takes top priority anyway.

Muh just going to stop guessing about mythic as I have never even seen one and plan on never making one. If I did it would be yag because erase-ga is sexy :S
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-06-10 08:08:41  
Gimpness said: »
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
I was wondering if the math people would take a look at these two sets and see which one comes out on top and by how much.

4hit Kikugosaku:


5hit Masamune:


Both sets would use this for Shoha:

Believe you need rose for a 5hit with masa/amano... but should be 99 Amano > 90 Masa > 95 Amano > everything else (not including mythic, of course.)

and obviously mess with the shoha set if it needs acc (mala to gorget blah blah blah)


I'm sure all of this has already been said somewhere though >_>
Should be able to get 5hit with that set.
Shoha WS set= 17.78 Tp returned
5hit TP set = 20.57 Tp/hit
20.57 x 4 = 82.28
82.28+17.78 = 100.06 TP
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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2012-06-10 09:04:24  
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
Should be able to get 5hit with that set.
Shoha WS set= 17.78 Tp returned
5hit TP set = 20.57 Tp/hit
20.57 x 4 = 82.28
82.28+17.78 = 100.06 TP

Nah, you have to round down to one decimal place.

Shoha WS set= 17.7 Tp returned
5hit TP set = 20.5 Tp/hit
20.5 x 4 = 82.0
82.0+17.7 = 99.7 TP
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-06-10 09:54:21  
Hmm that's a little disappointing. I had thought I read somewhere that it calculates off the second decimal place but only shows to the first decimal place. If rose strap is in there for TP phase and WS, I only need 45 sTP in gear during TP. Could put Atheling back in there.

Or I could WS in Sao. Sune-Ate+2 and keep pole grip in both TP and WS sets, but I kind of like the conserve tp on AF3+2 feet.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-06-10 18:52:30  
Gimpness said: »
Believe you need rose for a 5hit with masa/amano... but should be 99 Amano > 90 Masa > 95 Amano > everything else (not including mythic, of course.)

Is 90 Masa really better than 95 Amano? I didn't think that was the case, but I can't say for sure one way or another.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-10 21:52:00  
Siren.Mcclane said: »
Gimpness said: »
Believe you need rose for a 5hit with masa/amano... but should be 99 Amano > 90 Masa > 95 Amano > everything else (not including mythic, of course.)

Is 90 Masa really better than 95 Amano? I didn't think that was the case, but I can't say for sure one way or another.


Yes unless you need the ACC from Amano. Very few instances you would need the extra ACC if geared right.
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By Gimpness 2012-06-10 22:28:54  
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
Should be able to get 5hit with that set.
Shoha WS set= 17.78 Tp returned
5hit TP set = 20.57 Tp/hit
20.57 x 4 = 82.28
82.28+17.78 = 100.06 TP

uhh if shoha's second hit misses you're *** though, since its only 16.3 TP return.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-10 22:34:30  
Well if you're using shoha with amano or masa you're probably in an event where you have atma, monarch's drink, or embrava to make up for your less than optimal tp returns.
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By Gimpness 2012-06-10 23:54:46  
eh, I guess that's true.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2012-06-11 07:54:27  
Gimpness said: »
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
Should be able to get 5hit with that set.
Shoha WS set= 17.78 Tp returned
5hit TP set = 20.57 Tp/hit
20.57 x 4 = 82.28
82.28+17.78 = 100.06 TP

uhh if shoha's second hit misses you're *** though, since its only 16.3 TP return.
Isn't that true of missing any hit? It's a 5 hit build not a 3 hit and two wiff build.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2012-06-11 10:32:50  
Changing to Phorcys head/Ace's feet in time, Pretty sure I can drop STP Neck or back aswell when I do that. Or change up my WS build.


Single Hit WSs (fudo etc.)

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By Phoenix.Eckeward 2012-06-11 11:05:02  
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: »
Isn't that true of missing any hit? It's a 5 hit build not a 3 hit and two wiff build.

Tachi: Shoha is a 2-hit WS, he's talking about specifically the 2nd of those 2 hits. The first hit returns a normal amount of TP (16-17TP) and the 2nd gives,...?... 1.0TP,.... or 1.4-1.5TP if it's affected by Store TP?....idk.

Are extra hits on a WS affected by Store TP?

Most people gear their Store TP so that they don't have to rely on that +1 TP from the second hit. But I'm not sure that's necessarily the best idea.
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