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CrossRoads Tobi +2 or Kannagi
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-08 10:15:20
Bahamut.Raenryong said: 500k each is a ripoff.
People actually pay that, belive it or not :P
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-08 10:16:09
I would sell helms for 500k each!
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:16:34
Asura.Yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: There is a small group that offered to sell me helms @500k each. Is it worth it or can I really do it by my self. And yes five hundred thousand each helm it's not a miss type. go solo it >.>;; I tried to solo it last 2 days it didn't go very well AS NIN/DNC I am taking all advice from you all but it's easier said then done ;.;
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-04-08 10:19:32
Briareus is gonna take long time NIN/WAR, you cant stun Merc Strike abd if he does 1111 dmg he 2hrs and does Meikyo Shisui or w/e then you gotta hold it till your HP regens back up, same with Pantagreul and the RNG NM(forgot name). If you can't stun TP moves they get spikes and you gotta turn and wait for HP. /DNC you can just stun all TP moves and and go GH/RR/Apoc and kill faster. Briareus never gets a TP move unless violent flourish misses. KIs just deaggro mob and retry red procs once it resets.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:19:36
Just seems that Tobi 2 is easier to get maybe I am getting impatient and war to use blade hi already?^^ I have full weapon skill set except Hachiryu boots and storm rings
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-04-08 10:19:55
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: Asura.Yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: There is a small group that offered to sell me helms @500k each. Is it worth it or can I really do it by my self. And yes five hundred thousand each helm it's not a miss type. go solo it >.>;; I tried to solo it last 2 days it didn't go very well AS NIN/DNC I am taking all advice from you all but it's easier said then done ;.; i understand, but i would be far more than willing to throw myself at it daily than spend 25mil on just stage 1.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-08 10:22:41
Asura.Natenn said: Briareus is gonna take long time NIN/WAR, you cant stun Merc Strike abd if he does 1111 dmg he 2hrs and does Meikyo Shisui or w/e then you gotta hold it till your HP regens back up, same with Pantagreul and the RNG NM(forgot name). If you can't stun TP moves they get spikes and you gotta turn and wait for HP. /DNC you can just stun all TP moves and and go GH/RR/Apoc and kill faster. Briareus never gets a TP move unless violent flourish misses. KIs just deaggro mob and retry red procs once it resets.
Never fight Briareus without a THF anyway. I'd always persuade a THF to come along /whm for Briareus and then it's easy.
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-04-08 10:23:46
Its gonna take awhile but don't get Tobi, Kannagi is easy to get, you dont need a LS to get it.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:24:43
I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc but honestly is Tobi2 really that bad?
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-08 10:25:53
Only because Kannagi is relatively easy to get.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-04-08 10:28:04
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc This is why I just said *** it and made a whm mule. Having 11/13 red!! procs is pretty damn good odds. I realize not everyone has the resources or ability to dualbox but if you can it is definitely the way to go.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:28:24
If I go tobi2 route i may finish a few more "mini Emp" weapons as I am half way through at getting decay for Sam and Glory for Tobi also have many ruin but those are pretty much garbage lol yet I still won't toss them just on case.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:32:23
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc This is why I just said *** it and made a whm mule. Having 11/13 red!! procs is pretty damn good odds. I realize not everyone has the resources or ability to dualbox but if you can it is definitely the way to go. But why make a dbox account when everyone says it can be "solo'ed" lol which seems to be pretty rough itself
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-08 10:35:47
If you're gonna pay for it, just pay friends/good randoms to help.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:38:23
Asura.Natenn said: Its gonna take awhile but don't get Tobi, Kannagi is easy to get, you dont need a LS to get it. When I start working on NM pops and helms I think about needing 50 of them bishs lol just for first stage then I think of needig 50 skins in order to gain access to Blade: Hi. It discouraging.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-04-08 10:42:08
2nd stage is easy - people will come for drops. The hardest part of any Empyrean stage is just to put your head down and keep working when you're at the depressing first half or so of the trial. It will happen!
PS, you ain't seen hell until you are at Apademak :3
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-04-08 10:45:05
Helms are the problem. Sobek is easy as hell. Just /sh for Sobek farming Stone/Card FL, Skins reserved. Get a WHM BLM THF and WAR with The red procs NIN/WAR can't do. Get a BLU to and a BRD or have BLM sub BRD. Sobek took me 2 and 1/2 days like this trust me.Ppl will help you if they get someting out of it, Just make sure you on top of Gukamatz till you got 3 KI at least. 1-6 EST PM usually no one there but my group when i went.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:45:57
Bahamut.Raenryong said: If you're gonna pay for it, just pay friends/good randoms to help. I am gonna try and do that later today or even shout I will reward help in PJ.
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-04-08 10:47:12
I need 52 more horns for apa yea its hell, luckily my LS does him alot now.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2011-04-08 10:47:50
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc but honestly is Tobi2 really that bad?
With all the "white is fair-game" *** hats out there this is sometimes risky.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:48:45
Bahamut.Raenryong said: 2nd stage is easy - people will come for drops. The hardest part of any Empyrean stage is just to put your head down and keep working when you're at the depressing first half or so of the trial. It will happen!
PS, you ain't seen hell until you are at Apademak :3 I know final stage is rough that why most nine have stop at 85 Kannagi but that alone still out damages, 90 Tobi2 frOm what I've been researching
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-08 10:49:47
Blade: Hi in itself isnt _THAT_ great.
Outside abyssea, ws dmg+10% katana isnt gonna be a whole lot worse than WoE path.
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for.
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:53:04
Asura.Calatilla said: Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc but honestly is Tobi2 really that bad?
With all the "white is fair-game" *** hats out there this is sometimes risky. I know what you mean bro. Lol when I was out there these last 2 days I was the only person in La-Platue
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:55:47
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: Asura.Calatilla said: Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: I may try Natenn's strategy and flux to reset red Proc but honestly is Tobi2 really that bad?
With all the "white is fair-game" *** hats out there this is sometimes risky. I know what you mean bro. Lol when I was out there these last 2 days I was the only person in La-Platue What I found when doing ***like this it's pretty good to /sea and sometimes there is no one in zone or someone that might be willig to help^^. But when no one is in zone.... I am sure Sobek will be "white is fair game"
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-04-08 10:58:22
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for.
I know this first hand experience tyvm! Damn Natenn hitting me for 500+ dmg per swing when Cirein-Croin charmed him and they both came after me.
Natenn meanie! D:
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 10:58:32
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Blade: Hi in itself isnt _THAT_ great.
Outside abyssea, ws dmg+10% katana isnt gonna be a whole lot worse than WoE path.
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for. Should I get Tobi2 then?
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-04-08 10:59:16
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Blade: Hi in itself isnt _THAT_ great.
Outside abyssea, ws dmg+10% katana isnt gonna be a whole lot worse than WoE path.
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for. Should I get Tobi2 then?
WoE weapons do not get the aftermath. Only access to the ws.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-08 10:59:18
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Blade: Hi in itself isnt _THAT_ great.
Outside abyssea, ws dmg+10% katana isnt gonna be a whole lot worse than WoE path.
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for. Should I get Tobi2 then?
No, that was supposed to be: "Go for Kannagi" :P
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By Fenrir.Viperouskaos 2011-04-08 11:02:01
Asura.Tamoa said: Cerberus.Kvazz said:
What makes Hi awesome, is the aftermath from Kannagi, its really worth going for.
I know this first hand experience tyvm! Damn Natenn hitting me for 500+ dmg per swing when Ciren-Croin charmed him and they both came after me.
Natenn meanie! D: Lol Wsup Tamoa come to Feni and show me how you solo'ed this ***. J/K!
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-04-08 11:03:47
Fenrir.Viperouskaos said:
Lol Wsup Tamoa come to Feni and show me how you solo'ed this ***. J/K!
I haven't soloed Briareus though :(
I am at the crossroad 30 Glory coins, 20 Kindred crest, 50 High Kindred's = Tobi+2 or 50 Briareus helms, 50 Sobek skins, 75 Apedemak horns = Kannagi. I have Daka +2 already for THF and I know Tobi +2 is much easier to obtain but is it worth getting Tobi +2 or should I be patient and try for Kannagi? It just seems a bit rough to farm 3 Ki's for every NM pop..... Input please assist. Honestly is Tobi +2 good enough to be considered an Elite NIN?
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