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 Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-02-24 18:54:48  
I stick with Red Curry Buns.
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2011-03-06 23:23:30  
Anyone have a solid setup for outside abyssea?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-06 23:26:44  
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
I stick with Red Curry Buns.
This. They so awesome
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-03-06 23:29:02  
Asura.Dtroyy said:
Anyone have a solid setup for outside abyssea?

This is what I use:


I'm sure there is a few upgrades to be made, but so far this works.
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-06 23:43:49  

This is going to be my Hi set, may not be the best set up, but hoping it'll work, since it's what I've got.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-07 00:41:03  
For inside abyssea(which I am assuming it is) ditch the Raja's and neck. 2 simple upgrades.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-03-07 00:51:56  
With berserk up swap out Viking hat for Anwig Salade(AGI+4 WS damage +2% AGI+2 Haste+2%), Sea Gorget and pick up a AGI ring, and Iga back is useful while zerk is up.

With berserk down keep Viking hat, swap to Centaurus Earring, Hope Torque, Anguinus Belt and Atheling Mantle.

@Upbeat swap out Enchu +2 for Kamome, the +10% increase in crit hit damage, added Acc and Atk is more benefitial also your hurting your OAT rating by stacking more double attack and triple attack over it.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-07 01:34:13  
Asura.Dtroyy said:
Anyone have a solid setup for outside abyssea?

Some items that may vary with Berserk up/down but it gets the point across. Cap dDEX, collect win.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-03-07 01:37:26  
would that be a str sekka?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-07 01:51:47  
Yeah, for now. Still playing around with offhand options. Kamome wins if you're capping pDIF fulltime but otherwise STR seems to be doing best right now. Not sure how Oirandori fares since I don't really have any info on it.
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-07 02:18:01  
Any advice on my WS GEAR besides hachi feet and hope torque?

I been useing agi sushi and GH / AoA/ RR atmas also
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-07 02:20:16  
Epona's or another Agi Ring.
Ditch the neck, get a gorget(Or torque when you can).
9/10 times you are going to want Centaurus instead of Agi earring.
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-07 02:23:00  
centaurus? also what food is best?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-07 02:25:23  
Valefor.Pewpeww said:
Any advice on my WS GEAR besides hachi feet and hope torque?

I been useing agi sushi and GH / AoA/ RR atmas also
Hi Futchy.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-07 02:27:44  
Red Curry, for the most part.
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By Valefor.Pewpeww 2011-03-07 02:38:28  
thanks nem, and lolwut night?
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By Caitsith.Ilolatyou 2011-03-07 04:11:17  
How do the head options rank if you don't have maat's cap (for outside)?
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-07 04:14:01  
I myself use a Bersail, I am assuming Maat's would be best outside Abyssea. But inside I really couldn't be sure. Most likely better then Bersail, probably not better then Anwig.
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By Unicorn.Leoheart 2011-03-07 04:53:22  
Caitsith.Ilolatyou said:
How do the head options rank if you don't have maat's cap (for outside)?

Deceit mask.
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By Titan.Wubby 2011-03-07 15:30:29  
How much DEX is good to shoot for outside Abyssea?
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By Ragnarok.Icedout 2011-03-07 18:11:51  
I was curious how the WotG earring with augment attack 4 and TP bonus 25 would do against an AGI earring. Has anyone tried to compare the two yet?
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By Unicorn.Leoheart 2011-03-07 18:22:29  
Titan.Wubby said:
How much DEX is good to shoot for outside Abyssea?

Not sure what the best amount of DEX would be, I'll show you what I use outside of abyssea until i can access better gear.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-07 18:41:12  
Titan.Wubby said:
How much DEX is good to shoot for outside Abyssea?
Depends on what you're fighting. Greater Colibri cap at 117 DEX, Mamool Ja Lurkers cap at 146. I'd expect most things to fall somewhere in between but I don't know if there's much in the way of good AGI values for NMs.
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-03-07 18:55:00  
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said:

@Upbeat swap out Enchu +2 for Kamome, the +10% increase in crit hit damage, added Acc and Atk is more benefitial also your hurting your OAT rating by stacking more double attack and triple attack over it.

That set up is for outside abyssea using /DNC, When anything besides /DNC I use Oirandori off hand. I said that in the set description, but who checks that.

Inside abyssea you're right about Kamome though.

EDIT: My Enchu +2 is DMG+OaT how could adding double attack, or triple attack hurt it in any way? I would think it would help it if anything. Maybe less returns if you have a giant amount of double/triple attack to the point you can get the same amount of double attacks in as you would using OAT letting you use another katana, but I highly doubt you can get to that point without atmas.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-03-10 04:47:30  


my outside abyysea set, puts me at DEX 139 AGI 117 STR 109

looking to eventually pick up Iga hands today or tomorrow now that we're done building base Ukons.. >_>

And the way the game checks for your next attack (QA, TA, DA, OaT) being last, triple and double attack over take it and would proc over it making the effect (40%) diminish slightly.
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By Thud 2011-03-10 07:02:12  
My apologies if this has been covered before (sorry, I don't feel like going through all 8 pages to potentially find the answer :) ), but 2handed weapons get a nice accuracy bonus with 1hit WSs, does Hi get it aswell?
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-10 07:47:29  
Thud said:
My apologies if this has been covered before (sorry, I don't feel like going through all 8 pages to potentially find the answer :) ), but 2handed weapons get a nice accuracy bonus with 1hit WSs, does Hi get it aswell?
Doubt it, it's multihit, one of the multiple iteration of the words at least. Deals X-ple damage, x-Fold attack, etc. theyre all the same thing, it's mentioned in the other Hi thread up that they arent treated as a single hit.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-10 10:14:48  
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Ragnarok.Nekonarf said:

@Upbeat swap out Enchu +2 for Kamome, the +10% increase in crit hit damage, added Acc and Atk is more benefitial also your hurting your OAT rating by stacking more double attack and triple attack over it.

That set up is for outside abyssea using /DNC, When anything besides /DNC I use Oirandori off hand. I said that in the set description, but who checks that.

Inside abyssea you're right about Kamome though.

EDIT: My Enchu +2 is DMG+OaT how could adding double attack, or triple attack hurt it in any way? I would think it would help it if anything. Maybe less returns if you have a giant amount of double/triple attack to the point you can get the same amount of double attacks in as you would using OAT letting you use another katana, but I highly doubt you can get to that point without atmas.
Do the words "232 delay, lowest multihit priority, and doesn't proc on WS" ring any bells? OAT sucks.

Wafflechan said:
Thud said:
My apologies if this has been covered before (sorry, I don't feel like going through all 8 pages to potentially find the answer :) ), but 2handed weapons get a nice accuracy bonus with 1hit WSs, does Hi get it aswell?
Doubt it, it's multihit, one of the multiple iteration of the words at least. Deals X-ple damage, x-Fold attack, etc. theyre all the same thing, it's mentioned in the other Hi thread up that they arent treated as a single hit.
Ignoring anything Mabrook says has been a pretty good idea lately. The WS itself is single-hit and x-fold damage is NOT the same thing as delivers an x-hit attack. I wouldn't be surprised if the mainhand hit receives an acc bonus, but the offhand and DA/TA hits would not get such a bonus.
 
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-10 13:16:15  
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said:


my outside abyysea set, puts me at DEX 139 AGI 117 STR 109

looking to eventually pick up Iga hands today or tomorrow now that we're done building base Ukons.. >_>

And the way the game checks for your next attack (QA, TA, DA, OaT) being last, triple and double attack over take it and would proc over it making the effect (40%) diminish slightly.
Why use an Aesir over a Centaurus? Its only 3 attack... But that ***is like 30k
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