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 Siren.Shaokahn
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By Siren.Shaokahn 2012-07-26 02:44:56  
Blade: Hi is weak regardless what set you have
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-07-26 03:01:45  
Thank you for your brilliant contribution.
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By Shiva.Kelayne 2012-07-26 12:30:26  
Siren.Shaokahn said: »
Blade: Hi is weak regardless what set you have

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By Shaokahn 2012-07-26 12:41:10  
Shiva.Kelayne said: »
Siren.Shaokahn said: »
Blade: Hi is weak regardless what set you have


It's true ***
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-26 12:44:02  
Speak for yourself
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-07-26 12:54:12  
Sylph.Decimus said: »


I thought this was the best. Feel free to correct anything.

Athos's gloves and thaumas kecks ?

Atleast that's what I'm using to make both set effect work, plus quite alot of more str/atk/acc/agi(this one just for those who care).

Edit: did you change your set? It is showing different items :<
I'd use anguinus over Windbuffet too
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By Phoenix.Elspetta 2012-07-26 12:59:28  
Shiva.Kelayne said: »
Siren.Shaokahn said: »
Blade: Hi is weak regardless what set you have
You might want to edit your pick, I had one removed because badass is a bad word >.>
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By Lakshmi.Taekwonjoe 2012-07-26 17:26:30  
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Lakshmi.Taekwonjoe said: »
It was suggested to me that I get rid of the Dual Wield items for better TP return on Hi.

why would you ws in Dual wield gear? did i miss something why someone would do this? *confused* or is it just beacuase those 2 pieces has some little agi on them, you had them on hand you and used them cause of this ?

Yes I had those DW items for their 2 and 4 AGI in lieu of better gear but have since picked up Ambusher's Hose and a Centaurus earring.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-26 19:20:02  
Just for reference, my Blade: Hi set with some numbers from last nights Kaggen(x4).

-NIN/WAR
-Food: Red Curry Bun
-Bard/Cor: None
-Atmacites: (Could probably stand to choose something better?)
Deluges Lv 10
Coercion Lv 15
Valiant Lv 10


Seiryu's have STP4, Crit Hit Rate 3%; Kannagi 90
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Player                 WSkill Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
Langly                      51949          0     51949    49.07 %      34/0   100.00 %    273/2632  1527.91
 - Blade: Hi                51209          0     51209    98.58 %      32/0   100.00 %    273/2632  1600.28

I wish I could tell you the avg. tp return. But... uhh nope.

And if anyone wants to see melee dmg for WS/TP split or acc:
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Player            Melee Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss    M.HR %   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi  M+0.Avg  M-0.Avg
Langly                52775          0     52775   49.85 %     522/42   92.55 %   92.55 %    26/194    76.37    76.37
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Player                #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
Langly                  153    74/368    160.75   29.31 %
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-26 19:21:58  
1600 average over 34WS on Kaggen? ouch. NIN's pretty derp.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-26 19:24:08  
Ha, don't have to convince me. Would you be surprised to know I was the highest share of the ally's damage. :(

Derp abound.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-26 19:25:07  
I'm so sorry :C
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-26 19:30:38  
Your crit rate seems sort of low, were you using Champions/Stalwarts?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-26 19:33:07  
Stalwarts yes. Even Innin. Though that.. didn't really help unless it was completely locked as it was looking at me most of the time.

Champions not always. I was a bit lazy with the champions. Probably 60% of the time?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-26 19:34:19  
hm, weird. maybe I'm misremembering my crit rate on BLU, or my assumption that NIN would have at least equal to that is off, though I usually kept champion's up 100% because I'm OCD and need my buff bar the same size 24/7 @.@
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-26 19:36:23  
BLU in the ally @ 40% crit rate. Might have been better at using champions. Though I think I remember them using Athos a bit too? That wouldn't explain 10%, but the champions would.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-26 19:37:38  
May also be a disparity in DEX on gear or something, I'm not familiar with NIN TP sets, but maybe you guys don't TP in quite as much DEX
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-26 20:06:34  
No innin?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Langly 2012-07-26 21:11:27  
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Even Innin. Though that.. didn't really help unless it was completely locked as it was looking at me most of the time.
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By Solrain 2012-07-27 01:13:10  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
May also be a disparity in DEX on gear or something, I'm not familiar with NIN TP sets, but maybe you guys don't TP in quite as much DEX

~25 more DEX in your BLU TP gear (Oce. headpiece +1, 4/5 Thaumas, Rajas) than the standard (Langly's - AF3+2 head, Rajas, AF3+2 feet) NIN gear, not including Almace.
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By Bahamut.Disguise 2012-07-29 16:03:00  
Curious on how these sets are, I don't have any Thaumas pieces so I've made do with what's available.

Kannagi-TP:


Kannagi-Hi
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2012-07-29 16:16:14  
The obvious: your TP will reset when you change from Chakram to Tathlum.

Suppa to Moonshade or Centaurus
Rajas to Stormsoul
Toci's to AF1 for TP (hilariously) and uh I'm not sure if AF3+2's better for WS if you're using Ocelomeh head D:
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By Sylph.Aebish 2012-07-29 16:32:49  
TP reset only after re-equip chakram but still.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2012-07-29 16:37:16  
at any rate still throwing away some perfectly good tp for ????
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By Gimpness 2012-07-29 16:58:26  
Bahamut.Disguise said: »
Curious on how these sets are, I don't have any Thaumas pieces so I've made do with what's available.

Kannagi-TP:


Kannagi-Hi

Use


for TP, swapping in Shinobi Ring when it's active.


Use something like


for Hi, replacing a few things for ACC and ATT depending on what you're doing.
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By Odin.Rikiyame 2012-07-29 18:47:35  
Gimpness said: »
Bahamut.Disguise said: »
Curious on how these sets are, I don't have any Thaumas pieces so I've made do with what's available.

Kannagi-TP:


Kannagi-Hi

Use


for TP, swapping in Shinobi Ring when it's active.

Use something like


for Hi, replacing a few things for ACC and ATT depending on what you're doing.

Crudelis is probably better (cheaper). And Nusku's/Patentia beat Twilight.

Edit: Nusku's/Patentia then changes Shinobi. Nusku = Shinobi is worse, and Patentia = Shinobi is better. DC dyna mobs and 12 STR/DEX merits.
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By Gimpness 2012-07-29 19:02:13  
I'd be surprised if Crudelis is better than Windbuffet and I completely forgot about Patentia being 5% Dual Wield. Since that's the case I'd try and grab a Thaumas Coat as quickly as possible... and still stick to Shinobi when it's active.


edit because I posted that before you edited your's: I'd definitely use Patentia over Nusku's, since you're able to use Shinobi (when you don't have thaumas, that is).
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By Odin.Rikiyame 2012-07-29 19:06:45  
I don't think Windbuffet comes into play until Thaumas 3/5 and those stats cover crudelis's stats.
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By Gimpness 2012-07-29 19:08:29  
Ah, maybe. Haven't really double-checked anything for pre-Thaumas.
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By Odin.Rikiyame 2012-07-29 19:12:32  
If you can even get a Patentia. 4M on Odin and haven't seen one recently.
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