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 Bahamut.Hucksterthief
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By Bahamut.Hucksterthief 2012-01-03 14:25:21  
Won't Anwig Salade with AGI+4 STR+4 wsdmg+2% and wsacc+15 be better than Ocelomeh Headpiece for Hi? (and also Exenterator)
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By Asura.Hotin 2012-01-03 14:29:24  
It is rarely mentioned but TP bonus moonshade + attack should be a great earring for Hi also, maybe the best one.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-03 16:06:55  
Bahamut.Hucksterthief said: »
Won't Anwig Salade with AGI+4 STR+4 wsdmg+2% and wsacc+15 be better than Ocelomeh Headpiece for Hi? (and also Exenterator)
no
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-01-03 21:41:49  
Asura.Hotin said: »
It is rarely mentioned but TP bonus moonshade + attack should be a great earring for Hi also, maybe the best one.
hi is 4.0 accross the board, why would tp bonus be used for it?
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-01-03 21:43:13  
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Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
Xeno's was closest to resemble mine, only difference was he used the Ocelo. Headpiece, Iga Backpiece , and Lithe
Of course I'd lose the parse, I'm a damn Taru. Half way through the run, we noticed that Iga wasn't a great choice for an outside set, so I switched into Atheling. Haidate are augmented with +3% Crit. DMG. On the never-ending search for AGI and Crit. *le sigh*

Another thing that was different between mine and Neko's was: her Kannagi is 90'd, mine's 85. We didn't think it'd make that much of a difference, but.

Taru's Law: Automatically lose any melee parse before it even begins. What are you doing playing a melee?

Outside set:


Koga kyahan +1 are in the works. Literally, waiting for Sunday. Have Steps waiting to +2 them.
question: why are you and narf using +2 tekko instead of seiryu's w/ crit augment?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-03 21:44:25  
Shiva.Schatzie said: »
Asura.Hotin said: »
It is rarely mentioned but TP bonus moonshade + attack should be a great earring for Hi also, maybe the best one.
hi is 4.0 accross the board, why would tp bonus be used for it?

Really? I mean, really?


Crit chance varies with TP.
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By Kuryomi 2012-01-03 22:14:07  
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Kuryomi said: »
what do i need a sky pop for? i already got my haidate years ago

You make scraps out of the seal(s). You use those scraps that you get to augment your kitty pants. Consider augmenting your Seiryu's Kote as well.



i see thanks. i just unlocked synergy so i can skill it up and try augmenting. Hadnt ever bothered to look into it
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-01-03 22:40:01  
It's good if u spam 100% Blade Hi's

But I love the T3 aftermath...
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-01-03 23:07:39  
Shiva.Schatzie said: »
question: why are you and narf using +2 tekko instead of seiryu's w/ crit augment?


Lacking proper augments on my Kote, I keep getting sTP and ATK
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By Xorn 2012-01-03 23:58:21  
So STR magian is the definitive best off-hand weapon for Kannagi on most things now? I want to know for sure before I start one.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-01-04 00:12:51  
isnt any kote better?
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By Kuryomi 2012-01-04 00:36:16  
i use un augmented s. kotes and it treats me pretty good
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-01-04 02:10:06  
mine is just STP+3 Crit+2
I'd spend time and money on it
but it'll be after kikoku is done.
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By Asura.Hotin 2012-01-04 08:48:51  
Shiva.Schatzie said: »
Asura.Hotin said: »
It is rarely mentioned but TP bonus moonshade + attack should be a great earring for Hi also, maybe the best one.
hi is 4.0 accross the board, why would tp bonus be used for it?

...
It should add more than 1% crit hit rate along with 4 attack so yeah one of the best earring.
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By Cerberus.Omegacloud 2012-01-06 19:09:47  
Xorn said: »
So STR magian is the definitive best off-hand weapon for Kannagi on most things now?

I was wondering the same thing. I kept looking at my katana everytime I walked into my moghouse and was thinking this. If that's the case, is it situational or a definite full-time using off-hand?
Also, what's a good amount of Str to have overall for Hi?(Asking overall, but mainly for VWNMs.)
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By Cerberus.Omegacloud 2012-01-06 23:00:03  
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Also, what's a good amount of Str to have overall for Hi?

fSTR wont add as much to your WS as WSC(AGI) and pDIF(ATT) will, so throw some STR on wherever you cant stack large amounts of AGI/ATT.[/quote]

Yeah that I know, maybe I asked the wrong question, let me rephrase it. What's a good amount of Agi to have now-a-days before you start seeing minimum boosts damage-wise? With the setup I have in mind, it'll bring me to +54 Str, +61 Dex and +53 Agi with lots of att and acc.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-06 23:17:57  
Your question still doesn't make any sense.

EDIT: Capping fSTR will heavily devalue additional STR, but that varies by target and it sounds like you're looking for some magic target number instead when no such static value exists. WSC has no such cap and is just subject to typical diminishing returns.
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By Cerberus.Omegacloud 2012-01-07 00:09:43  
Ah, gotcha. That cleared things up for me. Thanks for the quick responses Nightfyre and Kin.
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By Xorn 2012-01-07 00:23:08  
So the AGI Arisui I already have wins! *** yea.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-07 00:43:17  
Xorn said: »
So the AGI Arisui I already have wins! *** yea.
no
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By Roshima 2012-01-11 07:27:39  
This is my current outside set, only thing changed since new lvl cap is feet, however my dmg seem to be quite a bit worse, did i miss something or have they nerfed Hi? i used to break 3k easily and average 1.5k-2.5k i am rarely breaking 2.5k averaging between 1-2k and more frequently doin stupid low i.e. below 500, starting to **** me off. Any ideas coz i cant see why Lithe Boots wud be better than Koga lol

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By Fenrir.Curty 2012-01-11 08:20:52  
Anything below 500 would suggest an issue with acc or fighting a mob that has high pdt- or defense of course. If you are talking about numbers on voidwatch, many of the new NMs just have quite a bit of defense to them. Only way to get realiable high His is to ride Innin on most of them.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-01-11 08:43:36  
Pretty much what curty said, check your tp return on low hi's. generally low damage can mean it didn't crit, or you missed the main or offhand hit.

Regarding voidwatch you're probably extremely low on attack on higher tiers and unable to cap ddex.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-11 11:56:29  
Mainhand hit gets an acc bonus, it's just the 95% rule kicking in.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-01-11 13:53:04  
My set is pretty much identical to your set Roshima. Except I use Rajas ring over Stormsoul. Blade: Hi is a crazy inconsistent son of a ????. I think most ninjas have a love hate relationship with this weaponskill.

I don't break 3k all the time, but it does happen on occasion in voidwatch. Normally my Blade: Hi average 1.8-2.5k. I use Red curry buns when accuracy isn't an issue, and Pizza +1 when it is.

Perhaps the low numbers you are getting are without temps? Maybe you had a bard or corsair in previous voidwatch runs? I always seem to get stuck in the BLM party, so no rolls or songs for this guy. :(
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2012-01-12 20:57:12  
Brutal + Centaurus or Brutal + light earring (1%crit)
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By Asura.Hotin 2012-01-12 22:52:18  
Or slightly better than light earring(except at 300tp): TP bonus/attack moonshade earring.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-01-12 23:10:57  
If that earring isn't possible at the current time, which would be better, Centaurus or the 1% Crit Light earring?
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