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By SilverTalon 2011-07-15 04:51:48  
I see soil gorget in almost every set, but from what i understand shadow gorget would work just as well for the weaponskill. I already have shadow, so have been using it. Any problems with that?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-15 04:53:37  
SilverTalon said:
I see soil gorget in almost every set, but from what i understand shadow gorget would work just as well for the weaponskill. I already have shadow, so have been using it. Any problems with that?
People use soil because they most likely already had it, I know it's really useful for covering almost all the dagger WSs I'd use until I get love torque.
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-07-15 04:59:51  
Ramuh.Austar said:
SilverTalon said:
I see soil gorget in almost every set, but from what i understand shadow gorget would work just as well for the weaponskill. I already have shadow, so have been using it. Any problems with that?
People use soil because they most likely already had it, I know it's really useful for covering almost all the dagger WSs I'd use until I get love torque.

Shadow should work perfectly fine - it's just more difficult to get than soil is all (you can get the 10 xzomits for soil in a half an hour).

Also, soil works with aeolian (and career ninjas should carry an aeolian build on them or at least in the safe/satchel). Using soil over shadow for Hi saves one slot.
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By SilverTalon 2011-07-15 05:07:32  
Good call. Use AE a lot as an alternative to FC burning, use all my all-job Mab equipment in that set as well. Though currently i use Uggy Pendant for AE since it's proc is forced due to having no inherent MP
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-07-15 05:10:50  
There isn't too much of a difference between uggy pendant and the gorget, might want to check that out. I decided it wasn't worth carrying around that single piece for so little change since inventory is an issue :(.

*My aeolian build is halfassed though, it has more to do with what I'm already carrying around than getting that last 50-60 damage through unique gear choices.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2011-07-15 12:20:44  
Bahamut.Aeronis said:

Something like

<if buffactive="Berserk">
<var name="Berserk">1</var>
</if>
<if buffactive="Minuet*">
<var name="Minuet">1</var>
</if>
...

<if advanced=""Berserk"="1" AND "Food"="1" AND "Stalwarts"="1">
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</if>
<else>
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</else>


Maybe?

more like:
<var cmd="set attkbuff 0"/>
<if buffactive="Berserk">
<var cmd="inc attkbuff"/>
</if>
<if buffactive="Minuet*">
<var cmd="inc attkbuff"/>
</if>
...

<if advanced="attkbuff > 2">
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</if>
<else>
<action type="equip" when="Precast">
<waist></waist>
</action>
</else>


Not quite sure how "var inc" works, but you can play around with it to figure it out.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-15 12:24:00  
You'd need AutoExec to get the most out of that. Have a command to increment/decrement the variable on gainbuff/losebuff and fire off a dummy spell to get you into the right gear immediately.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-15 12:55:45  
I got Blade Hi the other day ;D


this is what I'm rolling with atm:



for as little as I have played with it I'm pretty happy with the results.. also Taru Blade Hi is awesome animation.. back flip ftw :)




will be swapping pants with ambushers asap I got a pop just hadn't had time to get them yet.

missing 1 wieldence +2 item for Tekko hands so the ocelot are just temporary, also have been getting some sky pops to get some Seiryu's Kote, last time we killed there was no drop.

I don't know how I'm going to get my hands on Hachiryu Sune-Ate they seem like a pain in the *** or super expensive.

Only thing I'm not sure on is head really, I don't have AMK started, also don't own maat's cap, anything else better than what I got that I should be looking at? Maybe I'll do AMK not sure yet.


I'm more working on inside for now, maybe for outside swap to AF3 +2 body, +2 hands, back to Cuchulain's (if i get one), belt to soil and I still need me a pair of byakkos
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-15 13:00:46  
BACKFLIP

Could try for a Shura Kabuto (+1) with WSDMG augment.

Hachi feet are definitely a pain in the *** to get, but it's not quite as bad as it used to be at least since Nauls in Abyssea give ~100 zeni/plate.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-15 13:13:38  
hmm.. thanks man I'll need to check out that head and the 100 zeni/plate out, I literally know NOTHING about zeni or ZMNMs in general I was planning on asking some friends


and yeah i didn't know that Taru backflip on blade hi I was pumped.. it's like blade ten mixed with pure sexy dragon fire not to mention it actually does damage :)
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-07-18 04:17:24  
Carbuncle.Tweeek said:
it's like a reskinned blade ten, like every other empyrean weapon skill.


Fixed that for you buddy.
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By Fenrir.Fearforever 2011-07-18 04:55:54  
This is my Blade; Hi set for inside abyssea.


I'm now looking into making one for outside abyssea and would like some help on which pieces to replace.

The first ones i'm thinking of changing are body and hands for AF3+2 pieces but not sure on the rest.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-07-18 05:13:44  


This is my setup for outside abyssea.

Crit hit damage/ws damage+2% augments.

As for your weaponskill set in abyssea changes I would make are;

Stormsoul Ring to replace Breeze.
Aesir when Berserk down.
Anguinus Belt to replace Shadow Belt.
Swap in Shadow Gorget & Belt, AGI Earring when berserk up
and of course Anwig Salade if you have the option.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-07-18 06:38:16  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Nauls in Abyssea give ~100 zeni/plate.
Holy *** fireballs batman, I did not know this! :O
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-07-18 13:46:09  
yeah I'm aware that Centaurus is better then Aesir however when Aesir is all jobs and Centaurus is only what.. 4 jobs? and I've got multiple that could benefit over Aesir :/ its not worth the inventory -1 when I'm already running around capped in most places for inventory, /rage over the gear you can't mule.
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By Asura.Toxleh 2011-07-21 13:08:23  
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said:
yeah I'm aware that Centaurus is better then Aesir however when Aesir is all jobs and Centaurus is only what.. 4 jobs? and I've got multiple that could benefit over Aesir :/ its not worth the inventory -1 when I'm already running around capped in most places for inventory, /rage over the gear you can't mule.

PLUS 3 conserve tp from aesir + 7 from shadow belt make it a nice even 10 ^^
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By Phoenix.Arhat 2011-07-24 19:25:52  
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-24 19:28:25  
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Pretty damn good. At least in the case of evisceration, it'll beat out love torque even with RR and GH, I'd imagine it'd be of similar results for Hi.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-24 19:44:39  
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Rancor > Hope > elemental gorget. My simulations had previously pointed to Hope outperforming Rancor inside Abyssea but going over them again just now I found an error; I'd updated the critrate cap for white damage but not for WS damage so I was getting less critrate than I should have if I was also using augmented Seiryu's Kote.

Bear in mind that Innin will take you well past the critrate cap inside Abyssea if using RR + GH.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-07-24 19:50:28  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Rancor > Hope > elemental gorget. My simulations had previously pointed to Hope outperforming Rancor inside Abyssea but going over them again just now I found an error; I'd updated the critrate cap for white damage but not for WS damage so I was getting less critrate than I should have if I was also using augmented Seiryu's Kote.

Bear in mind that Innin will take you well past the critrate cap inside Abyssea if using RR + GH.
Luckily they dropped in price on Asura. However, thanks to this, I may not have comfortable gil for my BB items now. Lol.

Thanks for always keeping us updated~
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By Phoenix.Arhat 2011-07-24 20:06:35  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Rancor > Hope > elemental gorget. My simulations had previously pointed to Hope outperforming Rancor inside Abyssea but going over them again just now I found an error; I'd updated the critrate cap for white damage but not for WS damage so I was getting less critrate than I should have if I was also using augmented Seiryu's Kote. Bear in mind that Innin will take you well past the critrate cap inside Abyssea if using RR + GH.
Awesome, thanks.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-07-24 20:28:06  
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Would also depend on what you're fighting. If youre fighting a higher tier NM in a Heros zone, or even in Scars, you might be forced to use af2+2 for ws. Which with RR/GH and augmented kotes(+3) youll be capped on crit for ws with body or off by 1% making rancor neck's crit useless.

While the first hit doesnt really suffer from accuracy, the dual wield hit and any DA/TA still do, so thats something to consider.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-08-06 01:48:49  


My Outside set, Was wondering about head/belt. Need to work on Add on but anything better til then?
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-08-06 02:16:44  
Odin.Hitoseijuro said:
Phoenix.Arhat said:
How does Rancor Collar stack up to other options for inside considering the abundance of DA/TA?
Would also depend on what you're fighting. If youre fighting a higher tier NM in a Heros zone, or even in Scars, you might be forced to use af2+2 for ws. Which with RR/GH and augmented kotes(+3) youll be capped on crit for ws with body or off by 1% making rancor neck's crit useless.

While the first hit doesnt really suffer from accuracy, the dual wield hit and any DA/TA still do, so thats something to consider.
if s.kote is anything like BH ims cry.. dropped 1.5m for agi/crit+ on them and havent hit it yet... usin BH with agi+5/sTP+3... need more taters
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By Odin.Rikiyame 2011-08-06 02:33:20  
Ragnarok.Gunit said:
My Outside set, Was wondering about head/belt. Need to work on Add on but anything better til then?

Cuchulain's Belt seems to be outside favorite.
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-08-07 20:21:27  
This is my current set, all input appreciated
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-08-07 20:24:50  
Leviathan.Kajii said:
This is my current set, all input appreciated

Soil belt to Anguinus Belt, Suppanomimi to Centaurus Earring, Soil gorget to Hope Torque if you have it.
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By Asura.Xenophire 2011-08-07 20:27:38  
Ragnarok.Gunit said:


My Outside set, Was wondering about head/belt. Need to work on Add on but anything better til then?
I think it's been stated that Iga Dochugappa was a pretty solid piece for outside Hi, as well.

Also, Leonine Mask for head.
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