Free Skill Ups

Dealing between 3-10 damage per hit

Pretty sure you can't gain skill ups with a signet staff either, I smacked one for a hour with it on, nothing, equipped the MMM Shovel and got a .2 first swing. Might be wrong though.

mah dream bells too strong :( my great axe on war was doing 1-2 dmg per hit

Good thing i only have 30 mins till ejar anyways cause i've been on this 5 mins and already taken it down 10%

You can, just have to deal dmg. a couple points of str should fix it

Hmm, maybe I just got unlucky with the skill ups then, was doing damage because I was on PLD at the time, and PLDs are totally DDs, everyone knows that. =P

lol Dele, I just made my way and got one inside the castle. go go club skillups! selecting gear carefully I now have some good accuracy+ and landing hits for 1-2~ should be fun to see when I get up. Go go Trainee Hammer! lols

Shame these things dont have HP/DEF like the rock walls in Excavation Duty. Spend on day beating on one of those for 1 dmg.

Started at 85 Staff, and got a good balance of Haste/Acc and not too much dmg as you can see from the 1's :D

Started off under the bridge, got aggro from Orcs above, standing just off from top of Stairs, no aggro in 2+ hours.

I know how all that works -.- I was trying to answer his question of how high this caps at, and was telling him it goes up til at least 250, but that I was fixing to do something that goes above 250, and I would let them know how I got or if i got completely to cap..

I just missed the part about you getting to 271 on, which is higher then anything I'd be getting on my jobs. Most of my stuff is near cap.. Which is why this is just so beautiful for me..

As far as I know it does work, the only problem is that you deal damage far too fast..

When he said it wouldn't work for mnk/pup I'm pretty sure he was referring to the fact that there are more viable solutions to leveling it..

You could put it on attack and go do something else, but, you won't have that long to skill up on it, then you gotta make sure you come back 35 mins after death to retarget it.

yea you can skill on it w/ h2h, you're just not going to afk nearly as long. For example forget going to bed while skilling h2h

after i get staff capped... ill try h2h again...

for h2h... would not equipping nothing work as well? (lower dmg/skill up wise)

it'll work better, but h2h's formula is

(skill x .11) + 3 round downs. That's your base dmg per fist. Even w/ 0 h2h skill, you'd have more dmg than the stuff I'm using to skill with.

100 h2h skill? 14 DMG, gets worse as you get higher. (drk w/ 13 dmg scythe today i saw hitting for 30+) They won't last long at all

Relic Knuckles would be more effective than bare-fisted, I'd think.

if i had them... id use them... guess i just have to make due.

just woke up to +10 on club in about 2 hourish. I have to say this is pretty amazing. Going to try and set up again after Nyzul is over and go for caps~

Why?

You hit harder and slower. It's not about how long it can last, it's about the most number of hits it takes to kill it so you can get the most skill ups.

With relic knucks, you're hitting harder (+1 dmg > +0 dmg) and it'll take you a lot longer to do it w/ the +999 delay (especially if 999 isn't the cap because then you still have your base h2h delay)

I went afk in the spot over night, I went /nin and swords, so it's not like it took me forever to swing, but the point is, if you're not stupid where you stand, you should be safe. (just for anyone else wondering/doubting)

The only real problem I forsee is pup/mnk, as you'd kill it pretty quickly regardless of what you equip.. Scythe could also be pretty bad with a lot of +acc gear.. I'd suggest, to put a lot of +acc gear on, also putting on a lot of -att gear.. will greatly help over all.

What does acc gear have to do with -attack. you should want -attack anyways. lol. The point again is to get the largest number of hits not the longest time on it. You don't get skill ups for missing. Taking 2000 hits w/ acc+ will kill it faster than 2000 hits w/o + acc, but you still get 200 hits worth of skill up.

Because I coudln't hit the broad side of a barn with just a low level scythe on, the acc helps with the proc rate (since you need to deal damage) the -att gear lowers what you do (thus making it last longer)

Even with +9 acc (I know not much, but still) I'm missing like 90% of the time, but when I do connect, I'm easily doing 20+ damage..

Therefor, You're going to want to want to go +acc and -att, so you hit more often, but hit for lesser damage, thus overall, increasing both skill ups and time spent swinging.

EDIT: Damn forgot to add, this maximizes your possible skill ups, yes the object is to get as many as possible (or else why would anyone really do this, obviously no one ever touches them, so campaign ops is outta the question), but a reason why people do it is they can afk while doing this, the +acc adds to the overall chance of skill ups, while the -att (so long as you don't go too far) adds to the length of attacking the same enemy, therefor reducing the actual active time of targeting and clicking attack (which while may not be much, it can add up over this circumstance pretty quick.)

That's not what I meant.

The way you worded this
suggested that if you were not putting acc on that there would be no need for minus attack.

Read wrong, granted now I can see why.. I mean to stack up on both, not one over the other as compensation.. My Sycthe skill is only 114, but I'm still doing considerably more DoT then I was on RDM/NIN with double swords.

Oh ***I read it wrong twice :x /noob off..

K sorry if i led anyone int he wrong direction, let me make this clear (since I *** up) I meant to say I'd suggest putting on BOTH -att and +acc gear.

At least for 2h weapons.. I had no trouble skilling up sword, even at 249 (one level from cap)

Scythe however, is actually a miracle when it hits.

jesus there's some *** *** out here skill up wise..

a blm has been skilling staff none stop for two days. the other fortalice is camped by three people so came to "his".

"this ones taken" I was warned

it popped and the dude refused to CFH or invite to join pt.

DOUCHE :(

perhaps i shoulda waited till I was done to make this post. Oh well, finished gax, gsd was gonna be juts to do it. I don't intend on using it for anything.

yeh i had exactly same thought.. G.Sword just for G.Sword sake, axe and g.axe capped fairly easily albeit i got g.axe on meripo. cant complain. its taught me how to dodge the imps and tarus and guide thru the castle without aggro

Signet Staff works fine.

entitlement much?

K Staff, Dagger, Sword, and Club finished.

Agreed, what kind of person tells a fellow camper "This one's taken."

=)

lol first thing I did was CFH on the one I was wacking, not a single person bothered to come where I was though.