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 Fairy.Specopsz
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:29:07  
I have a few questions about DRG and PT, and WT.
When I first started DRG I was averaging 900-1200 PT's.
I'm currently level 71, and cant hit over 500.
Is there equipment gear, or anything that someone can suggest me to do?
I thought I had all the right gear thus far. ; ;

Heres what I got.
Head:Barone head piece.
Body:Scorp Harny.
Hands:Barone.
Legs:Barone.
Feet:Barone.
Waist:Potent belt.
Neck:Chiv chain.
Back:Amemet mantle.
Rings:Both sun rings.
Earings:Fowling earring, and Coral earring.
Grip:Mith +1

+18 strength, and +28 Accuracy.
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By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-05-02 18:31:54  
Are you considering what your party set up, mobs targeted, food that you used when you were pulling off those 1k pentas?

You were probably thinking of birds, which you can easily pull off those 1k pentas with proper buffs. VS Imps?
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:32:59  
I used some kind of pizza, marina pizza which a few people suggested. I did that, and I was fighting both birds and imps. But was hitting poorly again. :/
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-02 18:33:43  
pole grip
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-02 18:33:47  
Changing all that JSE out with the (temporary) exception of the legs would be a hell of a good start. Odds are you need more acc. Exception would be the grip, where you need less (Pole/Rose depending).
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:34:50  
The thing is yesterday, I had the set up for +45 accuracy, and yet to hit the exact same. ._.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-02 18:35:15  
Is that eyeballed or parsed? Any difference in buffs?
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:35:54  
Huh?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 18:42:40  
Parser calculates and shows your overall effectiveness over the duration of a party. Eyeballing is guesstimating how you're doing.

Edit: Also, those sun rings, macro them in for WSs, use acc rings for TPing. And your mantle, is it NQ or HQ? Neither of these will make a HUGE difference, but they will help, also remember that Penta is a multi-hit, you'll need acc AND atk/STR.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:44:16  
So your saying I may be over looking?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 18:49:15  
Fairy.Specopsz said:
So your saying I may be over looking?

I'm saying you might not be giving yourself enough credit for what you CAN do. What about your normal melee attacks? WSs aren't everything, but they are important. Also, what weapon are you using.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:51:09  
Ahh ok, I see.
Well that does make sense.
I average 80-110 per swing?
I just other DRGs nail the hell out of birds with gimped gear.
I'm using the Engetsuto
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-02 18:52:03  
At 71 I used Skystrider, Ohat, lolAJ, Tarasque+1, Barone (Aurum at 72), Marine M Boots with str/acc rings, Chiv, Assault/Minuet, Tiphia Sting, Forager's and I think Warwolf Belt or Potent Belt. Either used Pizza+1 or Curry Buns and never really had an issue with damage.

Edit: For WS.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-02 18:52:30  
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Ahh ok, I see.
Well that does make sense.
I average 80-110 per swing?
I just other DRGs nail the hell out of birds with gimped gear.
I'm using the Engetsuto

There's your problem.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-02 18:53:06  
One of them, anyway...

But yeah, Engetsuto's a no-no for DRG. Colossal Lance is the way to go at that level iirc. Skystrider's nice but it's also expensive.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 18:54:18  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
One of them, anyway... But yeah, Engetsuto's a no-no for DRG. Colossal Lance is the way to go at that level iirc.

That was gonna be my response, now that I looked it up. Colossal Lance is only 60k on Fairy.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:55:22  
Not even for the little bit of accuracy?
Edit: Any other lance suggestions?
My server has zip on the AH.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 18:56:28  
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Not even for the little bit of accuracy?

+2 Acc isn't that much. You can get more acc through other gear.
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-05-02 18:57:47  
I'm afraid to though, an watch the same results.
As its been the past few days.

Thanks guys for helping me out by the way.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 19:02:03  
Fairy.Specopsz said:
I'm afraid to though, an watch the same results. As its been the past few days. Thanks guys for helping me out by the way.

Well, farm up a pair of sniper's or the off-brand acc rings (the name escapes me), maybe grab an Amemet +1 if yours isn't. and look around at other DRGs till a Colossal comes up. If nothing else, put it in your 'wanted' section, or even shout for one. I know a few people who mule gear and forget they have it till someone asks.
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By Siren.Ihm 2010-05-02 19:02:04  
Wait a level and get a dreizak (spelling is wrong), I think I used that from 72 till 75
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-02 19:02:13  
Always get the high damage polearms like Thalassocrat unless it's the occ. atk. twice (OAT) polearm from the magian quest.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-02 19:02:24  
Dreizack sucks.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-02 19:03:20  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Dreizack sucks.
^
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Always get the high damage polearms like Thalassocrat unless it's the occ. atk. twice (OAT) polearm from the magian quest.
Also this ^
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-05-02 19:13:25  
Try to get to 72, and farm up Dusk hands and feet, TP in dusk, and farm up a pair of Pallas' or Alky. bracers. A good pair of WS feet you can buy escapes me ATM. I guess Dusk won't help with ACC much, but.. it's 5% haste. Also, not sure how or if DRG would suffer from the penalties of bracers.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-02 19:15:39  
can get nice stats on fay lance that will beat thalassocrat if you are lucky and got the people to help you with the fight
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-02 19:17:58  
do not ever use alk brc on drg for pentra or the nyzul ws one
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-02 19:32:36  
If you want better gear, you need a sky/limbus/znm/einj/salvage

If you do not have access to sky or sea start on it. Heca/Homam would be the things you want from those areas

From znm, some aurum feet/legs/body if you are lucky.

Askar body for tp. Can use askar head/feet/legs for ws if you do not have anything better.

Rutter Sabatons are also good alternative to heca if you are lucky.

If you do some assaults go for Pahluwan Seraweels.


Good luck
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-05-02 19:42:39  
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Penta~
Head: Optical Hat
Body: Thrakon Breastplate
Hands: Tarasque Mitts (+1)
Legs: Barone Cosciales
Feet: BaroneGambieras
Waist: Potent Belt
Neck: Chivalrous Chain (Work towards Peacock Charm/Amulet)
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Rings: Snipers/Woodsman/Ecphoria Ring
Earings:Fowling earring and Assault Earring
Grip: Pole Grip

Bolded stuff you should immediately work on for WS.

Excluded stuff from ZNMs, Sky, Sea, Salvage, etc...
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By Bismarck.Nexdeus 2010-05-02 19:43:55  
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=16885

Free, downside high delay, otherwise its ok till thal.
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