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and some cor are horrible.. matter of fact a good majority are horrible because they dont like to "waste" bullets pulling or quickdraw spams... ive seen lots of cor seek with (fisherman) (no thanks) in there comments on Asura LOOOTS!

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Black Mage 5
Beastmaster 3
Blue Mage 4
Corsair 9
Dancer 6
Dark Knight 4
Dragoon 5
Monk 5
Ninja 3
Paladin 6
Puppetmaster 5
Ranger 8
Red Mage 5
Samurai 6
Scholar 5
Summoner 4
Thief 7
Warrior 6
White Mage 3

Lucky roll w/ war in pt, 18%.

If the war has brutal and capped da merits, 20% DA

138/120 = 15% increase for the war

123/105 = 17% increase for jobs w/ just brutal

Lucky drk roll 35%

Using g colibri as our sample and 500 baseline attack

((675/293)-.35)/((500/293)-.35) = 44% increase


This is assuming you have BOTH war and drk in the pt. The higher your base attack, the less you get from increase. Drk has naturally high attack due to job traits and war has zerk up most of the time

1.15 x 1.44 = 65.6% increase

For both the war and the drk it will be lower than this and if you don't have both a war and a drk, then you won't have bonuses that high to begin with.

Capped haste + dual marches will be slightly higher than the 65.6% increase. The war and drk's increases will be less than the 44% increase of the average 500 attack DD and the number goes down if you take anything ever lower than lucky number

Edit:
Also, even lower if chaos roll is like berserk(both %+), where it is calculated separate from food.

((675/293)-.35)/((500/293)-.35) = 44% increase

Let's say the food is 65 attack of the 500 = 435 before food
435 x 1.35 = 587 + 65 = 652 attack

((652/293)-.35)/((500/293)-.35)= 38% increase

1.15 x 1.38 = 58% increase, which is less than capped haste + dual marches, by a good deal as compared to earlier when it was almost equal (20/(100-70) = 66.6% increase, and the 58% increase is about equal to dds w/ 20% haste rather than capped 20/35 = 57.1%, which is lower, but still depends on nothing lower than job bonus for BOTH jobs AND nothing lower than lucky number, ever

Depends on your base Haste, Attack, and DA... At the end of the day though, BRD is superior. Haste is just that good, BRD can debuff, and COR's recast impairs rapid buffing or changing buffs to suit the situation.
Completely, 100%, without a doubt... backwards.

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Darn you and your fuzzy math lol. Very informative though, but I just like to go with the flow and have a good time and use a very general sense of judgment when something isn't going well.

Why? Why bring all of this into a thread that's actually kinda fun? ><

Why QQ when you're not involved in the discussion? Don't draw attention to it and it will go away on its own.

I think we can all agree even if bard might be a little better. In a perfect world we all want bard + cor anyway.

Because it was unnecessary from the start. We're voting based on gameplay correct? Not based on what is better than another in various dynamic situations?

Nobody's voting based on the superiority of the job. It's an entirely separate discussion that didn't merit its own thread.

Also, with elegy, DDs are more able to fulltime hasso because the pt is taking less damage. Find a pt with only a cor that can fulltime hasso. Any DD that drops hasso, and brd doesn't just win by a little, it wins by a landslide.

Mytoy, take out one of the two jobs even one, (or both) that has the extra bonuses (I can't even remember the last time i pt'd w/ a drk), account for the fact that not everybody would be able to fulltime hasso, ect, easily negates the cor's own damage.

Well this wouldn't count on birds. Can't really debuff those. But also consider QD enhances pre-existing debuffs. Slow II or Elegy + Earth Shot = Slooooooooooooooooooow :3

But ya, this is more of an argument for how awesome BRD + COR is haha.

Why QQ about someone QQing? Don't troll them and they'll go away.


























(I'm sure you know this, but I'm kidding by the way.)

Brds generally pull birds w/ elegy (/nin for shadows to absorb reflections). I can't think of any pt that I'm in that every bird isn't elegy'd. And elegy is huge, 50%

Not just a sam tanking. Every DD fulltiming hasso at all times w/o seigan ever popping up by anyone during the course of a pt. Cause that's how all my parties roll.

Yes 1/3 of the time, not even close to being enough. Barely matches brd WITH lucky rolls EVERY time w/ job in the party 3/3 of the time, not 1/3 of the time.

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Stop turning everything into a job/gear/etc debate!!!!!!

+ your favorite job

- your least favorite job

It no hard eh

He started it >.>

I wouldn't say one person not being able to have hasso up 100% of the time negates a corsair's damage. May not get prime results, but it certainly holds its own.

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Rly depends on your DDs. ***DDs, cor may have a chance. Good DDs, better off having DDs who can 100% hasso.

Hasso is a 30%+ increase to any job w/ full non zerged haste buffs. And in a good party, Cor should never parse higher than 10%

XD

Well played.

Unfortunate souls that have difficulty getting two competent people of both classes.

COR BRD DNC :<

BRD>COR, Elegy 'sup.

It only does if your DDs suck. In a pt w/ solid DDs, a cor will equivalent to 2-3 wyverns, but yea cor + brd is the way to do it. Just sayin, if only one, brd for sure.