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 Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-01-14 17:47:17  
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
Can't we talk about something less argumentative? So who here has gotten an abortion lately? :D

You don't really want to go there lol.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-01-14 17:47:19  
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
This.
Psh I can complain about anything I want. Besides not like the other choice was any better
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2010-01-14 17:48:54  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Caiyuo said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
I used to agree with this mentality, but seeing how U.S. politics is such smoke and mirrors now warms me up to the idea of uninformed citizens staying out of it altogether. Of course this will never work because all sides need their one-issue zombie voters to pack on the numbers, but still, in theory it'd be nice.

It just really gripes me, when you have these people who make out how bad the country is, and piss and moan about every decision made... then you ask them "So who did you vote for?" "I didn't vote..." "Then GTFO"
Oh I get your point and definitely agree on that behalf, I just wish people who decided not to vote did so because they knew they wouldn't have all the facts on hand to make a decision they were confident in. It would never work that way, though, because no side would ever attempt to give up that many easy votes that can be won over with television ads and phone calls made in the action movie "ONE MAN, ONE CHANCE" voice about how he wants to take toys away from your children and alienate their freedoms or ..something. lol
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-14 17:48:59  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Siren.Avina said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
This.
Psh I can complain about anything I want. Besides not like the other choice was any better


You can complain, but it makes you a hypocrite.

If you don't vote you obviously don't have that much of a problem with the the government or care what happens to the country, which means you should have no reason to complain... OH SHI-


Also, if you don't vote because you don't have all the facts then fair enough, but if you don't vote because you were simply too lazy, then gtfo.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-01-14 17:51:26  
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
You don't really want to go there lol.
Have we had that topic on forums yet? Lol xD

A mod will get offended and take it down and go blah blah blah this will make people upset etc etc etc. Then we'll be bad guys bart and get banned like Gaea and Revision.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-01-14 17:51:34  
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Siren.Avina said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
This.
Psh I can complain about anything I want. Besides not like the other choice was any better


You can complain, but it makes you a hypocrite.

If you don't vote you obviously don't have that much of a problem with the the government.

What if you disagree with both party platforms?

Choose which platform you disagree with less. Just because you disagree with both party platforms, doesn't mean one of them isn't getting into power.
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By Garuda.Ckmasters 2010-01-14 17:51:41  
only read OP.

The first line made me LOL. like a business degree is something to brag about? I've yet to meet anyone with a business degree who knew anything about economics. get an econ degree. the only person who needs anything "dumb down" for them is in fact a graduate of business. i have never seen another degree that emphasized in so many intro level courses in my life. Maybe if you had a PHD in business i would have some respect for you, but judging by your post i can already tell that you do not. leave policy making to the econ majors.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-01-14 17:51:43  
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i dont think people knew what they signed up for, i think alot of people wanted to look tough only to get killed,people in high school who got picked on n such are the ones usually, like my little brother, none of the u.s problems were ours, there all created between our presidents and there "defense" of our country, that our "freedom of speech" was silenced.*** war shouldnt even have to use guns for diplomacy thats why we all have a mouth to speak out of.

Lol, u got me in again, if you join the military you should know, if you didn't then why did you join... And peace is the person with the bigger stick, thats why guns are needed for diplomacy. If talking it out fails then you duke it out

true but my point is theres no need for death over stupid ***, id have to agree with Veg not my problem,just upset still that people die for problems that they didnt create.

Then don't join, if you join you should know. Hell I'm all for no troops dying, just drop a bomb instead.

theres resolutions that dosent involve killing people, and in most cases, dropping a bomb will kill a higher % of innocent people than the real "threat".
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By Sylph.Megumii 2010-01-14 17:52:08  
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Siren.Avina said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If you don't vote, I personally don't think you have the right to complain.
This.
Psh I can complain about anything I want. Besides not like the other choice was any better


You can complain, but it makes you a hypocrite.

If you don't vote you obviously don't have that much of a problem with the the government.

What if you disagree with both party platforms?

LOL I can see it now on the ballots:

Mccain [ ]
Obama [ ]
Other [x]
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2010-01-14 17:52:42  
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Legalize marijuana and tax it, for more revenue (Good job, California!), and settle all conflicts with card duels instead of bloodshed.





Yea, yea, let the berating begin. But, this is how I feel.
I'm entirely okay with all of this. Pog and/or Beyblade battles would be a lot more enticing to watch, though.
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By Asura.Korpg 2010-01-14 17:55:44  
Ok, for those of you who commented about my aggression towards Obama on the first post, I'm sorry.

I was pissed off when I read that, and, unfortunally, had no other outlet to express my feelings other than this forum at the time. I'm sorry you guys had to read that at the wrong time.

While some people got it right on the nose, I think the topic went offtopic when people started accussing his voters that they only voted for him for being black. That is not the case, and I will explain why.

He is a charismic person, I will give him that. He won his election based off of 2 things. He is a Democrat and he is a good speaker.

Thanks to Mr. Bush, any Democrat running for office would have won, it could have been Obama, it could have been Hitler, it didn't matter, because of the public distaste at the time towards Bush.

He is a good speaker also. He talked anyone into buying his ***, and those few people who called him out on it, they were ignored thanks to his "swooning" the media and public. He made people think that if you are against him, you are racist. He didn't correct anyone in that little "mistake" but I can tell you, he gained the most out of that than anyone else would have.

The problem about good speakers, they are almost never good leaders. Think of him as a used car salesman. They can tell you that its the best car in the world, and that they are going to go under for selling you that car for half of the sticker price, but since you are a good friend, they would still do it. It is still going to break down as soon as you pull it out of the lot.

That is what is happening now. His choices in taxing people who had nothing to do with the tax he is inforcing them on should be illegal.

Thats like him putting a smoking tax on non-smokers, or drinking tax on non-drinkers, or a Canadian tax on American citizens. It doesn't make sense, but people are allowing this to happen.

Why would you put a bailout tax on companies who didn't pay borrow the money, or take any help, or already paid back in full the money they borrowed before he even got elected.

Whats keeping him in taxing Americans for things we don't use, or have, or need?
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-01-14 17:56:17  
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Lakshmi.Kitrah said:
Titan.Marzbarz said:
Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find


Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.

Research ftw! ^_^

Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.

copy and pasting makes you look "more ignorant" because anyone can do it, reading and understanding is FTW.

Instead of crying about how he might have copied and pasted stuff from a wiki, you could do something that might help your argument, for example, going through and listing alternate viewpoints to the articles that he cited. Or some other evidence that further helps your viewpoint.

It's true, doesn't take much to copy and paste something. But all you bashing him for this are more or less saying "WTF you can't bring actual facts into this!?"

Instead you've just left the content of his post alone. Does this suggest you have no counterpoint? It certainly seems that way.

there was no "counterpoint" needed.
and if u wanna argue with someone dont choose me because your obviously just a ***disturber,where in any part of my post depicted me crying?your an idiot "."
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 17:57:18  
Seraph.Caiyuo said:
Lakshmi.Kitrah said:
Legalize marijuana and tax it, for more revenue (Good job, California!), and settle all conflicts with card duels instead of bloodshed.





Yea, yea, let the berating begin. But, this is how I feel.
I'm entirely okay with all of this. Pog and/or Beyblade battles would be a lot more enticing to watch, though.

i think we should settle all conflicts in an arena with monkeys armed with chainsaws, and the people fighting only get silly items to fight with such as ballons, pillow cases, head phones, candy wrappers, etc. Film it and sell it, idk.
Maybe have like 5-10 of those monkeys to make it entertaining.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 17:58:52  
Asura.Korpg said:
Ok, for those of you who commented about my aggression towards Obama on the first post, I'm sorry.

I was pissed off when I read that, and, unfortunally, had no other outlet to express my feelings other than this forum at the time. I'm sorry you guys had to read that at the wrong time.

While some people got it right on the nose, I think the topic went offtopic when people started accussing his voters that they only voted for him for being black. That is not the case, and I will explain why.

He is a charismic person, I will give him that. He won his election based off of 2 things. He is a Democrat and he is a good speaker.

Thanks to Mr. Bush, any Democrat running for office would have won, it could have been Obama, it could have been Hitler, it didn't matter, because of the public distaste at the time towards Bush.

He is a good speaker also. He talked anyone into buying his ***, and those few people who called him out on it, they were ignored thanks to his "swooning" the media and public. He made people think that if you are against him, you are racist. He didn't correct anyone in that little "mistake" but I can tell you, he gained the most out of that than anyone else would have.

The problem about good speakers, they are almost never good leaders. Think of him as a used car salesman. They can tell you that its the best car in the world, and that they are going to go under for selling you that car for half of the sticker price, but since you are a good friend, they would still do it. It is still going to break down as soon as you pull it out of the lot.

That is what is happening now. His choices in taxing people who had nothing to do with the tax he is inforcing them on should be illegal.

Thats like him putting a smoking tax on non-smokers, or drinking tax on non-drinkers, or a Canadian tax on American citizens. It doesn't make sense, but people are allowing this to happen.

Why would you put a bailout tax on companies who didn't pay borrow the money, or take any help, or already paid back in full the money they borrowed before he even got elected.

Whats keeping him in taxing Americans for things we don't use, or have, or need?

Korpg I say you've got balls for posting your opinion like that xD
Idk why you'd really need to apologize it is your opinion
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By Siren.Avina 2010-01-14 18:01:35  
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Lakshmi.Kitrah said:
Titan.Marzbarz said:
Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find


Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.

Research ftw! ^_^

Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.

copy and pasting makes you look "more ignorant" because anyone can do it, reading and understanding is FTW.

Instead of crying about how he might have copied and pasted stuff from a wiki, you could do something that might help your argument, for example, going through and listing alternate viewpoints to the articles that he cited. Or some other evidence that further helps your viewpoint.

It's true, doesn't take much to copy and paste something. But all you bashing him for this are more or less saying "WTF you can't bring actual facts into this!?"

Instead you've just left the content of his post alone. Does this suggest you have no counterpoint? It certainly seems that way.

there was no "counterpoint" needed.
and if u wanna argue with someone dont choose me because your obviously just a ***disturber,where in any part of my post depicted me crying?your an idiot "."

Not at all "just a ***disturber." I just wanted to read an actual point. Like Korpg posted just now. I may disagree with how he sees things, but I can respect that he has some solid reasons for thinking them.

And I don't see how you can say a counterpoint wasn't needed to the wiki post. It's like a straight list of source materials. You just have no reply to them.
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By Asura.Korpg 2010-01-14 18:02:55  
I apologized because of my tone of it all.

People seemed to be aggressive against me because of it, and for some reason, they either think I'm attacking them (which I'm not, because the only person who I think is an idiot in this thread is Obama) or attacking their values (probably because they voted for him, and don't want to either admit to their mistake or accept the fact that he may have not been the best person for the job).

I went out of my way to say I'm sorry for something I was a little pissed off when I wrote the thread, and should have expressed it in less negative light (although, Obama is still a moron)
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-01-14 18:06:33  
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Hades.Stefanos said:
I just wanted to say that Bart and Pikachu have made this thread very enjoyable, so thank you both for making my day at work funnier. Ok back to the flaming and such.


What can I say, Pika's first cat pic had me rolling.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-01-14 18:15:22  
no where near lol
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By Asura.Korpg 2010-01-14 18:19:53  
I also apologize for calling people stupid.

Its just that previous threads where I point out Obama's stupidity, nobody seemed to get it, so I placed it as a disclaimer without realizing what it really meant.

I really should proof-read my posts more often.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-14 18:20:19  
Lot apologizing here, korpg. I almost don't recognize you.
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-01-14 18:20:56  
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Lakshmi.Kitrah said:
Titan.Marzbarz said:
Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find


Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.

Research ftw! ^_^

Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.

copy and pasting makes you look "more ignorant" because anyone can do it, reading and understanding is FTW.

Instead of crying about how he might have copied and pasted stuff from a wiki, you could do something that might help your argument, for example, going through and listing alternate viewpoints to the articles that he cited. Or some other evidence that further helps your viewpoint.

It's true, doesn't take much to copy and paste something. But all you bashing him for this are more or less saying "WTF you can't bring actual facts into this!?"

Instead you've just left the content of his post alone. Does this suggest you have no counterpoint? It certainly seems that way.

there was no "counterpoint" needed.
and if u wanna argue with someone dont choose me because your obviously just a ***disturber,where in any part of my post depicted me crying?your an idiot "."

Not at all "just a ***disturber." I just wanted to read an actual point. Like Korpg posted just now. I may disagree with how he sees things, but I can respect that he has some solid reasons for thinking them.

And I don't see how you can say a counterpoint wasn't needed to the wiki post. It's like a straight list of source materials. You just have no reply to them.

and the more i look at what i wrote there was a point...copy/pasting does not back up any of your info if "YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND" like i wrote do you have problems reading or are you just a flamer?
anyways im done arguing with someone your like a naggy wife see ya later.
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 18:21:38  
Asura.Korpg said:
I also apologize for calling people stupid.

Its just that previous threads where I point out Obama's stupidity, nobody seemed to get it, so I placed it as a disclaimer without realizing what it really meant.

I really should proof-read my posts more often.


Stop apologizing, I don't see any reason you need to say sorry for lol
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By Siren.Avina 2010-01-14 18:22:49  
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Siren.Avina said:
Valefor.Mattyc said:
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said:
Lakshmi.Kitrah said:
Titan.Marzbarz said:
Oh of course sorry. I should have gone on Wiki and copy pasted all and any info I could find


Yes, you should have. It would've made you look less ignorant.

Research ftw! ^_^

Copypasting wiki is not reasearch.

copy and pasting makes you look "more ignorant" because anyone can do it, reading and understanding is FTW.

Instead of crying about how he might have copied and pasted stuff from a wiki, you could do something that might help your argument, for example, going through and listing alternate viewpoints to the articles that he cited. Or some other evidence that further helps your viewpoint.

It's true, doesn't take much to copy and paste something. But all you bashing him for this are more or less saying "WTF you can't bring actual facts into this!?"

Instead you've just left the content of his post alone. Does this suggest you have no counterpoint? It certainly seems that way.

there was no "counterpoint" needed.
and if u wanna argue with someone dont choose me because your obviously just a ***disturber,where in any part of my post depicted me crying?your an idiot "."

Not at all "just a ***disturber." I just wanted to read an actual point. Like Korpg posted just now. I may disagree with how he sees things, but I can respect that he has some solid reasons for thinking them.

And I don't see how you can say a counterpoint wasn't needed to the wiki post. It's like a straight list of source materials. You just have no reply to them.

and the more i look at what i wrote there was a point...copy/pasting does not back up any of your info if "YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND" like i wrote do you have problems reading or are you just a flamer?
anyways im done arguing with someone your like a naggy wife see ya later.

lol good, see ya
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-01-14 18:24:07  
Why won't it die? :(
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2010-01-14 18:28:30  
Valefor.Mattyc said:
and the more i look at what i wrote there was a point...copy/pasting does not back up any of your info if "YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND" like i wrote do you have problems reading or are you just a flamer?
anyways im done arguing with someone your like a naggy wife see ya later.
Thank god, I was reaching for the "it's time to stop posting" cat.
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