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 Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-01-09 14:33:59  
Japan's internet is 12.3 times cheaper and 12.7 times faster than North America's.

You could argue that makes it 156.21 times more effective for the average consumer.
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By Kujata.Erim 2010-01-09 14:35:28  
lol, I'm not so sure that helps them exactly in FFXI, but I have known about Korea's incredibly cheap broadband access for some time........ TOTALLY unfair. ><
 
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By semimmortal 2010-01-09 14:43:33  
Is there a condensed explanation to why?
Is it the technological differences?
Rate of competitions?
Why?!
Why do I have to pay 100 bucks a month for crap internet!
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-01-09 14:54:27  
There's a few reasons. Mostly, it's because it's government-run, not private. This is one of the rare examples (like roads) where the public sector can decimate the private.

It was constructed all at once as a public works project. A giant country-wide fiber backbone, rather than pieced together from regional, for-profit private monopolies on old and incompatible hardware.

There's also the fact that it's physically smaller (but much denser), meaning you have to lay less physical cable/fiber. That's not a very good excuse though, as most of the bottlenecks on the internet are in the routers and peering points, not the actual cable, and Japan needs just as much of those to handle its population.
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By Carbuncle.Elvaanmoq 2010-01-09 14:58:24  
Hey, Jaerik!

Take a look at México in your graph.

Welcome to my world... :(
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2010-01-09 14:59:54  
Gah, I feel worse for the red nations, lol. I don't know if they just value internet access over there more or if it's just a bigger part of their national budget, but I've heard of things as great as free-to-access city-wide WiFi in some cities and that's just like awe-inspiring. I guess their condensed geography makes it easier to create setups like this, but surely there's more to it and I'm really curious to know what else factors into it.

Edit: thanks, Jaerik! lol
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By Unicorn.Ellimist 2010-01-09 15:04:25  
The Japanese use "Internet".

It's super effective.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2010-01-09 15:17:08  
Average connection speed of 61Mbps, I am wondering if they can achieve that speed when accessing a source off of the mainland.

I'm not sure if the info-graphic analyzes whats available or what consumers actually subscribe too.

In the DFW area we have FiOS/U-Verse/Comcast/TWC/Charter

FiOS offers 50/20 Mbps at $145/month that is $2.9 mbps/month.

U-Verse offers 24/2 Mbps for $75/month that is $3 mbps/month

Comcast offers 50/10 Mbps for $150/month that is $3 mbps/month

FiOS has best price per month and superior upload speed. Still at $3 per mbps, still sucks compared to Japan/Korea. I personally use U-Verse 12/2 for $35/month promotion.
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By Remora.Hackstealandbot 2010-01-09 15:19:02  
wtf like all of eastern europe doesnt even have internet
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-01-09 15:32:10  
Woot! Sweden on 4th place! :D
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By Shiva.Arupopo 2010-01-09 15:34:03  
Try living in australia, we dont even get UNLIMITED!
I get 50 Gigs worth of downloads per month for 150 dollars, now that my friends is a rip.
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By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-01-09 15:45:09  
Fenrir.Scragg said:
Average connection speed of 61Mbps, I am wondering if they can achieve that speed when accessing a source off of the mainland.

I'm not sure if the info-graphic analyzes whats available or what consumers actually subscribe too.

In the DFW area we have FiOS/U-Verse/Comcast/TWC/Charter

FiOS offers 50/20 Mbps at $145/month that is $2.9 mbps/month.

U-Verse offers 24/2 Mbps for $75/month that is $3 mbps/month

Comcast offers 50/10 Mbps for $150/month that is $3 mbps/month

FiOS has best price per month and superior upload speed. Still at $3 per mbps, still sucks compared to Japan/Korea. I personally use U-Verse 12/2 for $35/month promotion.

You forgot about Comcast's 250GB Bandwidth cap per month. Verizon has no such restriction.
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By Bahamut.Leonelf 2010-01-09 15:49:09  
Shiva.Arupopo said:
Try living in australia, we dont even get UNLIMITED!
I get 50 Gigs worth of downloads per month for 150 dollars, now that my friends is a rip.

150 bucks a month for internet ? are you *** kidding me >.<

I live in German's university campus and i pay 12€ per month for extremely fast Internet providing by the University itself. Download is limited to 30GB though, but you can use proxy from the campus to surf internet and it doesn't count towards 30GB that means if you watch 1 million videos on Youtube per month you can still download for example 30GB worth of coughcoughHeroesTheOfficecoughcough
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-01-09 16:10:18  
Remora.Hackstealandbot said:
wtf like all of eastern europe doesnt even have internet

The graphic only shows the top 20-30.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-01-09 16:19:57  
Fenrir.Scragg said:
Average connection speed of 61Mbps, I am wondering if they can achieve that speed when accessing a source off of the mainland.

Dunno, but as all FF11 servers are physically located at Square HQ in Tokyo, it wouldn't matter vis-a-vis the thread subject. =)
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By Siren.Pantmonkey 2010-01-09 16:21:54  
I lived in Korea for a year, and its internet came free with the apartment. I know for a fact, it being closer to the servers made a difference, as i managed to claim alot more than now back in the UK, but that might be to do with the fact im now on 10 meg not 100 i used to be on. Sucky.
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By Midgardsormr.Mikania 2010-01-09 16:33:43  
Some could argue that broadband is not a viable business model. Where as public roads (excluding 'private' toll roads) isn't used as the same manner of a profit center.

Sooner or later the business model of broadband internet will just collapse. Capping speed, then telling us what we can or can't use the internet for. No gaming!
 
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By Kujata.Akeda 2010-01-09 16:56:01  
What hurts the USA the most if the fact that only like 2% of the total area can be considered 'built up'. Japan is a small island and is run mostly fiber optic.

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By Ragnarok.Titox 2010-01-09 17:05:17  
Garuda.Mabrook said:
bbl, packing up and heading to Japan~

^ same....here in my house is pay 40 bucks or so >.> for 4Mbps

where is Puerto Rico graph color?! XD PR would be red or soft red depending on the company...
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By Fairy.Blackmist 2010-01-09 17:32:58  
eh, :x i don't mind paying 30% a month, (for 6 months) with this new comcast thingy, and get 100mbs speeds lol.. just when it kicks up to 60$ just for internets, thats when i'll go /cry cry
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By Hades.Phe 2010-01-09 17:39:19  
8th! !o! i blame the snow. all of it..
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By Hades.Dizzmal 2010-01-09 18:32:31  
Remember a few more points as well.

#1 The USA has alot more space to cover than Japan. Meaning tons more cost to the companies supplying Broadband.

#2 Much of that comparision is total area coverage, including the areas with Dial-up. Here in the south (I live in Mississippi) where unless your in a 5 mile range of a major city, you will be enjoying the life of 56K( I did for the last 5 years untill I moved.) that would really kill the total Mbps of the country.

#3 I'm not sure about the rest of you but I am getting Comcast 16Mbps/2Mbps package with powerboost(30Mbps/3Mbps) for $42 a month and with DOIS 3.0 coming out in my area later this year Comcast told me that they will double our speeds and not raise the price. Meaning $2.62/1Mbps(@16Mbps) I can't complain about that.

The cost difference is huge between the US and Japan. I doubt no matter who owns them(Gov or Private) neither one of them is gonna lose money for a service.
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2010-01-09 19:14:28  
the fcc is actually doing an investigation of all isp's in the us to figure out where all the money they are getting for infrastructure work is going too. so basically what it sounds like is (in the us anyways) isp's are lining there pockets with all the money they should be using on upgrades.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2010-01-09 19:33:54  
Speed is nice, but what I'd like is the stability of fiber not the speed. Less packet loss and less latency, for online gaming this is the key, that and being able to practically throw a rock at the servers.
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By Fairy.Rog 2010-01-09 20:15:20  
I get 30down/10up (actual speeds are usually around 25~28down/4-6up) for ~$40/month, with no bandwidth limit. I couldn't imagine paying $50~100+ for the crap some isp offer.

Definitely jealous of japan though.
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By Gilgamesh.Vidian 2010-01-09 20:49:10  
Ah thats why the porn is pixelated
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2010-01-09 22:09:50  
This is the average result I get when running a speed test to Japan, lol!


Compared to this test to New York City.


And just for the lulz, LA, CA.

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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-01-09 22:30:46  
Odin.Moondaddy said:
the fcc is actually doing an investigation of all isp's in the us to figure out where all the money they are getting for infrastructure work is going too. so basically what it sounds like is (in the us anyways) isp's are lining there pockets with all the money they should be using on upgrades.

Well, I know for a fact my ISP is doing exactly that. Last year, I was practically cut off from service because they overloaded their own servers by signing up too many customers. So what do they do? Give the new customers top notch service, while people like me, who have been customers of theirs for a long while, were getting constant outages, disconnects, and some days, no service whatsoever. And what did tech support say? "We're not experiencing any issues. It must be your router."

Well, they sure as hell changed their tune when I reported them to the BBB. The day after they got the letter from the BBB, the senior manager at tech support called me personally to apologize and refund all the money I paid them for 3 months.

A lot of good that did...I'm having problems again. Unfortunately, my crappy ISP has monopoly over my area.
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