What Job Is "missing" From A REA?

What Relic, Empy, Or Aeonic do you wish you had access to on a job that could reasonably be put on it?

I hate that RUN is not on Ragnarok or Caladbolg, I doubt it would be game breaking for it to be on them and being the only A+ Greatsword skill job it just feels dumb that it is not on it.

Just REA? No P?

Personally I'm sour not about weapons but gear. RDM and SCH not being on both Bunzi AND Agwu makes me really sad.

WHM on Annihilator.

THF on Gastraphetes

I have it I have it! SAM on Fail-not!

Lets just get this out of the way:
MNK WHM BLM SAM SMN PUP DNC SCH GEO on Naegling.

PLD, BLU, and GEO on Mjollnir would be fun.

I'd also like some low level archery and marksmanship WSs on jobs that have any skill in them.

relic/empyrean should both have the same (and maximal) accessibility imo, so that's PUP Spharai, BLU Excalibur, WAR Caladbolg, DNC Mandau, RDM Twashtar (lmao at this one), WAR Guttler, SCH Claustrum, SAM Gandiva, and the only one that actually changes anything, give me Coronach on COR dammit

Cor relic gun/dagger will be a start.

WAR should be on Guttler. (But Axe itself is held by back by low base power/skill and needs an update).

BST should be on Bravura. (BST needs it's "secondary" weapon categories refreshed).

BST and BLM should be on Apoc (Like this).

All REMA staves should be deleted/reworked. (They have too narrow utility).

...I could go on.

I wanted to take this in another direction and say PUP should've had a REMA Automator with a different, more badass automaton. (Cue SMNs whining about Bahamut, but whatever).

But then I couldn't really think of what would qualify as a more badass automaton. Best I could come up with was a more well-rounded one, able to do different damage types. Hell, make it look like a reskinned Acrolith or something.

But back in the land of the plausible, I don't see any harm letting PUP *** around with Spharai at this stage of the game.

I'll second that. Would be nice to see PLD and BLU on Tishtrya, also. Would still be niche usage all around, but definitely fun.

That and missing jobs added to Relic would be awesome.

BST has zero Great Axe Skill, so unless SE fixes that too, Bravura wouldn't work well.

But this and this exists, so clearly they gave BST the skill to use Scythe, and it would have been the perfect secondary weapon for BST, idk, Scythes seem... BSTy. (Their skill is lower in this category, beaten by Dagger, also a LOL miff). But SE is so inconsistent it annoys me.

Also, either one of their pets should be giving JA haste, or they should get a new "Tandem" JA that grants JA haste to both master+pet when engaged. Boom BST gets a 2h weapon.

All jobs existed when Primes came out so they all got "something" but the fact that PUP, COR, BLU, SCH, DNC, RUN and GEO did not exist when relics released so none can use them is lame.

As for Aeonics being on the list the jobs that can use them is a subset of the jobs that get access to the WS which I think is dumb, they should be all jobs that can us the WS.

Can you imagine if we got another job and it misses out on all of those weapons? no Prime, no Aeonic, no Empty, no Relic, maybe they get a unique mythic type quest line (like RUN & GEO), that would be so dumb!

I don't think this is the reason why they didn't retroactively add these jobs to Relics. The Rune-line-of-weaponsfrom the 75 era had the post COP jobs added to them, and those same jobs can use Raetic +1 line, which are essentially reforged Rune weapons.

SE moved on from Relics a very long time ago, and they had next to no intention of ever updating them, even when asked several times and caught in statements where they said "if we ever updated relics...". Maybe there's some weird lore reason with SE that they didn't want to revisit with the new jobs or fit it into the story.

Rema automaton would be really cool. I'd like a big boi Kilroy frame from secret of mana series that could carry 2 heads. For Heady Artiface, getting Mighty Strikes but not only having Harle head would be cool. Same with the idea of being able to combo Spiritreaver and Stormwaker so they could independently cast spells at the same time for mage stats to go with the JSE neck

Have you never seen SCH, BLM and SMN mythics? Until Prime staff came along they were top staves for those jobs. Yes the rest are rather lackluster but Mythics need to be left out of that.

As someone who's back from a ten plus year break, I was really excited to dig into the Aeonic weapons till I saw how they were implemented and to be quite frank I thought it was boring. I personally think that if a job has at least a C skill in a particular weapon type it should have had access to the weapon.

I just think it would have been a dope way for people to play and gear jobs in ways that they typically wouldn't.

If Morimar can get Darrculin, BST can get Bravura. SE needs to stop using pets and Beastmasters for cool cutscenes and stories, if they're going to neuter BST.


Personally, I think SCH mythic is really low in terms of utility. (Some people will engage a mob before a PLD can even cast flash, so why would they let a SCH get AM2 up?)

Yes, I should have omitted Nirvana, I guess.

I love my BLM mythic, I think it has room to be more versatile. Frankly, I was upset when Mythic augments didn't given Laevateinn more INT.

No one said Cor on Annihilator? It's a *** gun.

Mnk longs for use in Ody C.

COR on Annihilator.
RNG on Farsha.


....SAMs just want on Fail-Not for the ammo ;)

BST on with Ambu Scythe isn't terrible. Spiral Hell with ambu scythe has a similar fTP/Mods compared to Origin. Scythe in general kinda sucks without a TP Bonus though.

SOD/Infernal are also pretty solid Magical WS.



Just be prepared to save tp lol..

Arthur is pretty nice with a Scythe Setup.
I think he was MBing for about 35k

Would I prefer GAXE for more utility/breaks? Hell yes.

Axe itself isn't a terrible weapon. Mistral Axe and Calamity used to be very close to Savage Blade's damage pre Naegling. Both will still put out respectable damage with fencer or a TP bonus weapon. The weakest link are multi hit weaponskills. For Decimation you are stuck with the Ambu Axe.

Ikenga's Axe closes the gap a little bit. Especially if you go Pangu-B/Ikenga, or Mythic/Ikenga.

Mistral Axe also has the benefit of being ranged and keeps me from going insane when I am "too far".

It's a damn shame that WAR isn't on Tri-Edge or Prime Axe honestly. Why does S/E ignore WAR's A ranked weapon so often?

This would be BROKEN, but I'm all for it. And unlike moat others posting here, this makes some sense to the job only because they have a relic that can equip in this spot. The Relics not on the newer jobs COR/DNC/SCH/BLU/PUP/RUN/GEO would make sense. And if all aeonics would follow the relic weapons like a lot do, it would be nice. As for people asking for a mythics on other jobs, each job has one. If the skill on that weapon type is not a "C+" per that job, you probably should not be even thinking about it.

SAM should get all prema bows.

Yoichi SAM era is only behind uncapped haste Apoc era in terms of fun and wreckage.

I'm all for using Bow on SAM when I can.

Just my random thoughts here:


It's refreshing being able to do a simple 2 step darkness with Shining One, and the crit+ on the bow actually does something for Shining One at least.

Yoichi/Ullr aside, Aeonic Bow on Samurai would still need /RNG sub for Flaming Arrow/Refulgent Arrow. Apex Arrow is literally all you will have with a majority of our subjobs.

This was done with a Tenzen Bow/UNM TP Bonus GK

Fail would be a monster of a weapon in this application. But SAM/DRG with Aeonic spamming Jinpu/Kagero would be better imo.

IIRC Ullr/Yoichi were doing 75k at 3000TP, but I have a 1950 TP Bonus with the Tenzen Bow/UNM GK/Moonshade. Mainly for testing.

I only use Apex Arrow to pull stuff so I can close a skillchain with Jinpu right after engaging.

At this point Bow's are basically a ranged Konzen-ittai. I'll also use it for W1/W2 Dyna/Omen/Seg Farm/Non boss stuff. I hate chasing stuff around.

If we are talking broken, SAM really needs to be on prime bow... I feel like that would be a game changer.

Whopping 55STR/Store TP+10/Accuracy+35/Enmity-50 (is this a typo? is it supposed to be racc?) would be a worthwhile sacrifice for losing ammo.

Aeonic Feels less broken when you consider:
-Jinpu/Hybrids already hit weak stuff for 99k.
-Shining One is capable of 99ks as well.
-Ullr's Empyreal Arrow's are pretty sweet. You also have a few options to cheese a TP Bonus with this via Magian GK, or even Unity GK. A couple people are actually using this setup for some Odyssey bosses as is.
-R15 Yoichi isn't that bad for roaming content. Namas-> Fudo or Namas-> Impulse Drive. For pure ranged damage R15 Namas arrow isn't terrible.

WAR has several weapon types they can stomp things with.
I don't think it would be wrong for Samurai to specialize in the GK/Polearm/Bow

If we are talking about weapon types on x job.

I wish Samurai had crossbows/marksmanship too lol..

Sure, COR on Annihilator would be interesting, but what about putting NIN on it?

Throwing is pretty under utilized and has no REMA because there are no weapon skills. But NIN's got an A+ and you could stack it with useful stats like an Ullr on steroids. Think Null Chakram or something.

I would take it on Beryllium Pick instead. IKYK

I'm just curious what the true shot range is on mistral axe. Decent slashing WS from 16 yalms away sounds pretty great with Hover Shot stacks. Ranged attack is taken very loosely but this is a dream thread.


I think the accuracy is, but everything else is above water. You use the equivalent bullet on COR as a macro piece for the -50 enmity on aoe job abilities and the DEX for more acc.

Gastra and Annihilator on COR so we can delete Ranger and save wardrobe space. Might as well give COR bounty shot too!