Controller Vs. Keyboard, LFG...

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Controller Vs. Keyboard, LFG...
 Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2024-11-18 18:40:21  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Hilariously I have lost count of how many times a LS member's controller died and they auto ran into certain doom..

Or they just got beat down until they died causing a wipe lmao.
While I love my controller, this is certainly a downside. Either play plugged in or watch your battery/cable/connections! I've had a few times where my controller *** up and I had to switch to keyboard to try, and often fail, to avoid death or failing a run.
 Cerberus.Shadowmeld
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2024-11-18 18:46:09  
Keyboard User: I'm a typist that does 500 words per minute with perfect accuracy so clearly that is the minimum proficiency of every keyboard user.
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By Dodik 2024-11-18 19:17:01  
You can't move camera and move avatar without pressing down 4 different keys, one with your pinky, and then also having to press ctrl/alt for macros on top of that.

That's a one way ticket to carpal tunnel syndrome for me. Already have RSI on both wrists, don't need more.

It's just not comfortable. So you make do. You get really good at dropping the controller real quick to type a couple words at a time.

You can have more than one spell on one macro you know. Or just, type. Controller users have keyboards too.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-11-18 19:24:34  
Dodik said: »
You can't move camera and move avatar without pressing down 4 different keys, one with your pinky, and then also having to press ctrl/alt for macros on top of that.

Right hand on numpad. Right thumb works camera. Left hand set up with macro combinations using the 12 keys surrounding home row and modifiers. No strange stretching or carpal tunnel, near-infinite macro combinations, only have to move your right hand to begin typing.

Plus, your left hand is free while doing missions and light content. You can switch targets with numpad0 and engage and talk with np-enter.
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By Dodik 2024-11-18 19:25:26  
What numpad. Haven't used one of those in over a decade.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-11-18 19:26:55  
Dodik said: »
What numpad. Haven't used one of those in over a decade.

skill issue
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2024-11-18 19:34:46  
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Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
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I've met plenty of controller players who run endgame without issue

I've met plenty of people who drive absolute shitboxes of cars with no issues, but that doesn't make it ***' better.

And I've met tons of people with nice cars who drive like ***, what's your point exactly?

Cool story bro, but apples to oranges in regards to the discussion.
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By Dodik 2024-11-18 19:42:22  
No, I literally do not have a numpad on any keyboard. Physical issue.

And no, I don't want one.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-11-18 19:47:01  
Dodik said: »
What numpad. Haven't used one of those in over a decade.
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Two keyboard dealbreakers for me:
1-lack of numpad
2-those compact keyboards that half-size the up and down arrow. example
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By Dodik 2024-11-18 19:51:44  
My home keyboard is a split ergonomic without numpad and space/enter are thumb keys in the center. Due to RSI, regular straight keyboards hurt my wrists.

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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2024-11-18 19:57:32  



Seriously though, this sounds like fighting game players. The classic "stick > controller" argument, which has now turned into "stick too slow, leverless controller is the only way". And then there are weirdo keyboard players, bat top versus ball top stick debates, which buttons are best, etc, etc, etc. I once competed in Super Street Fighter IV at Evo with a USB Sega Saturn pad, and despite that being in the "stick is the only way" era, I won a couple matches.

As many have said, play with what works for you. Bard should have to use a guitar controller though.

This is the also the worst debate we've had here for a while, and that's saying something!
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By Sylvebits 2024-11-18 20:17:02  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Sylvebits said: »
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Sylvebits said: »
I've met plenty of controller players who run endgame without issue

I've met plenty of people who drive absolute shitboxes of cars with no issues, but that doesn't make it ***' better.

And I've met tons of people with nice cars who drive like ***, what's your point exactly?

Cool story bro, but apples to oranges in regards to the discussion.

Aight so you just out here trolling I guess. Anyways.
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By Asura.Chaostaru 2024-11-18 20:29:57  
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »

As many have said, play with what works for you. Bard should have to use a guitar controller though.


Having Rockband notes you have to hit come across your screen for your song to work. THAT would actually make me play bard
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