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ATTN: Smokers, I have a question.
Pandemonium.Vincentius
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-11-09 01:29:20
Everything I could have possibly imagined saying is in Tousou's post above mine. I try my best to respect other people who don't smoke, how about you respect my choice to smoke? Don't *** about me doing it in areas designated for smokers. We're already outcast enough by those who think themselves better for not smoking, and we already pay out the rear to support something we CHOOSE to do. Please just get off the horse and leave us alone.
Gilgamesh.Shayala
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By Gilgamesh.Shayala 2009-11-09 01:42:33
Asura.Ludoggy said: Alexander.Ultrarichard said: and everyone knows that a smoke and a cup of tea is better than sex. This is why the world makes British jokes.
........and this response is why the British think Americans don't understand irony.
Do any of you judgemental non-smokers drive a car?
If you do then you are damaging other people's health every time you get behind the wheel of your vehicle. There are carcinogens in exhaust fumes as well as in cigarettes.
Hades.Feix
サーバ: Hades
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By Hades.Feix 2009-11-09 02:00:48
Hookah bars!/lounges/cafes. for some reason this thread made me think of those places. you can smoke inside those places and nobody cares cuz it's made for that kinda stuff :o but what i found weird is how many Non-smokers go to hookah bars and smoke flavored tobaco, myself included.
absolutely despise ciggs, but i absolutely love the flavored tobaco "hashish" stuff at the hookah bars. theres barely anything in them compared to ciggs but you get like 100x the smoke of 1 cig every session and i go there for Hours, so im breathing in just tons and tons of smoke to get that "hookah high" and i never crave it once im gone.
they are like the only places you go for a social gathering just to smoke lol granted i take my ps3 and eat food and ***while im there
that was kinda off subject but w/e, bored, like smokin at hookah bars, hate ciggs, etc etc, bleh.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-11-09 02:01:24
-Licks Feix-
Hades.Feix
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By Hades.Feix 2009-11-09 02:02:37
great now i smell like loldrk spittle
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-11-09 02:03:25
Does that have a distinctive smell? This is the first I've heard of that.
Also, I quit DRK like 2 years ago, lol.
Hades.Feix
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By Hades.Feix 2009-11-09 02:07:40
psh you were just barely sellin off all your drk gear when i left, so more like 1.5 yrs! and yes, it smells like tears and razors.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-11-09 02:08:35
Hades.Feix said: psh you were just barely sellin off all your drk gear when i left, so more like 1.5 yrs! and yes, it smells like tears and razors.
I just had tears and razors for breakfast. That's probably why.
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Unicorn.Moldtech
サーバ: Unicorn
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By Unicorn.Moldtech 2009-11-09 02:09:17
Pandemonium.Vincentius said: Everything I could have possibly imagined saying is in Tousou's post above mine. I try my best to respect other people who don't smoke, how about you respect my choice to smoke? Don't *** about me doing it in areas designated for smokers. We're already outcast enough by those who think themselves better for not smoking, and we already pay out the rear to support something we CHOOSE to do. Please just get off the horse and leave us alone.
Jesus Christ...that ^ FTW!
サーバ: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-09 02:32:06
Pandemonium.Vincentius said: Fairy.Azulmagia said: Of the seven times my mother was pregnant, she smoked during five of those pregnancies.
My mother's had five miscarriages.
That's her own HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE fault. Sorry for being insensitive, but if my wife smoked while being pregnant, I'd flip. I'd even quit myself without a second thought.
And stan, if you can't read the rest of my post, don't reply to it. You clearly had nothing intelligent to reply with, keeping your mouth shut would have been a better idea. In b4 "QQ"
not lol
サーバ: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-11-09 02:42:20
Unicorn.Moldtech said: So you don't have to pay for anything? Also, smokers and nonsmokers do not pay the same at all. Example: Life insurance, a smoker will pay more for coverage. Why? Smoker or nonsmoker doesnt matter, ya both gonna die, why does it cost more to bury a smoker than a nonsmoker? Or are nonsmokers not seen as worth as much? ^^
Do you understand the idea behind insurance? On the average a smoker will have a shorter life span than a non-smoker. Which means that, the insurance company will be paying for your funeral sooner than someone that does not smoke. Which means that, the insurance company won't be getting as many monthly payments from you. To offset this cost, they charge you more per month.
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2009-11-09 02:53:05
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Unicorn.Moldtech
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By Unicorn.Moldtech 2009-11-09 03:05:35
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: Unicorn.Moldtech said: So you don't have to pay for anything? Also, smokers and nonsmokers do not pay the same at all. Example: Life insurance, a smoker will pay more for coverage. Why? Smoker or nonsmoker doesnt matter, ya both gonna die, why does it cost more to bury a smoker than a nonsmoker? Or are nonsmokers not seen as worth as much? ^^ Do you understand the idea behind insurance? On the average a smoker will have a shorter life span than a non-smoker. Which means that, the insurance company will be paying for your funeral sooner than someone that does not smoke. Which means that, the insurance company won't be getting as many monthly payments from you. To offset this cost, they charge you more per month.
Thank you for proving my point, smokers are already paying more than nonsmokers, someone is wanting a free ride though, wanting smokers to pay for it all since they dont smoke. Also that's statistical, not ALL smokers die early. So should the smoker that outlives a nonsmoker get a rebates? o.o
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-11-09 03:30:52
I do understand smokers pay for their habit. I'm not sure where you're going with the free ride though. I did list that on average a smoker will die sooner. I do understand that there will be outliers. Your rebate question was interesting. Should a person who lives past the average get a rebate as well?
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-09 03:35:14
Shiva.Darkshade said: I smoke ***
if you are a girl smoke my ***!
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Unicorn.Laraul
サーバ: Unicorn
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By Unicorn.Laraul 2009-11-09 03:35:54
For one person to critisize another about their lifestyle choices is unacceptable. You *do not* do this. You are doing more damage and causing more pain for these people. You are not in their shoes. More so you are likely being mislead by propoganda rather than real facts. Addiction is a very powerful thing. If you don't truely understand addiction then you really have no business lecturng others.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-09 03:42:58
Unicorn.Laraul said: For one person to critisize another about their lifestyle choices is unacceptable. You *do not* do this. You are doing more damage and causing more pain for these people. You are not in their shoes. More so you are likely being mislead by propoganda rather than real facts. Addiction is a very powerful thing. If you don't truely understand addiction then you really have no business lecturng others.
read my posts in the thread addiction even if i was addicted i could stop.. no one is me though I know i could. BS again. SHUT UP
THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING LED BY ADDICTION my response :
B U L L
S H I T
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サーバ: Shiva
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2009-11-09 04:52:14
Smoking makes you smell like ***, and that axe spray you cover it up with also smells like ***.
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Gilgamesh.Tousou
サーバ: Gilgamesh
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By Gilgamesh.Tousou 2009-11-09 05:06:31
Shiva.Darkshade said: Smoking makes you smell like ***, and that axe spray you cover it up with also smells like ***.
QFT
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サーバ: Fairy
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-11-09 06:42:54
Pandemonium.Vincentius said: That's her own HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE fault.
No ***.
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said: Should a person who lives past the average get a rebate as well?
No.
サーバ: Ifrit
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-11-09 07:04:34
1). Smoking doesnt make you look cool( The Fonz proved that one)
2). Your breath will reek of *** and ash
3). Girls who smoke are very unattractive
4). Every time someone lights up around me, I yell out "SIX MINUTES!"
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Pandemonium.Vincentius
サーバ: Pandemonium
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2009-11-09 08:36:28
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
4). Every time someone lights up around me, I yell out "SIX MINUTES!"
And one of these times you do that, it's going to cut off the rest of your entire life, as that smoker, tired of ridicule from idiots like you, smashes your skull in.
Carbuncle.Lodo
サーバ: Carbuncle
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By Carbuncle.Lodo 2009-11-09 10:14:00
Do any of the people whining about health care costs, insurance premiums, and lost productivity generated by smokers have any inkling as to how much revenue smoker's generate for the state and federal government via tobacco taxes? Take a look, because the later makes the former look like pocket change.
サーバ: Ramuh
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By Ramuh.Annabelle 2009-11-09 19:43:12
If you believe taxes on tobacco outweigh the burden placed on the national healthcare system by smoking-related illnesses, you are most definitely smoking something stronger than tobacco.
Lakshmi.Wardens
サーバ: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Wardens 2009-11-09 19:59:41
Garuda.Wooooodum said: Nothing nicer than kissing an ashtray!
I'll admit I have done things with a girl who smokes... -.-;; yes I am that desperate.. i made her brush her teeth everytime i was with her after she smoked lmao but what she gave me, i wouldn't trade for the world.. hehehe ;3
Gilgamesh.Alyria said: You should ask the girls that smoke during their pregnancy.
omg yeah.. i know my sister's friend even said, "This baby isn't going to get in the way of me drinking and smoking whenever I want." >_>;;;; needless to say that baby was stillborn unfortunately.. :( very sad.
I know for me, one of my best friends for the last 9 years (he's not that good anymore) used to say he'd never start doing drugs and stuff. and now he gets hardcore drunk multiple times a week, he smokes like a chimney, and i don't even know what the hell kind of drugs he does anymore.. >.< he doesn't talk to me really. and if he does, it's "want to come over and have some beers?"
サーバ: Sylph
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By Sylph.Dubberrucky 2009-11-09 20:14:12
Unicorn.Laraul said: For one person to critisize another about their lifestyle choices is unacceptable. You *do not* do this. You are doing more damage and causing more pain for these people. You are not in their shoes. More so you are likely being mislead by propoganda rather than real facts. Addiction is a very powerful thing. If you don't truely understand addiction then you really have no business lecturng others.
Very very true
In addition to this seriously come on people its a matter of preference I smoke and I'm not ashamed to say that it is not because I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or do I think anyone else who has ever smoked is stupid. I ENJOY IT and the only reason anyone in their right mind hasn't at least tried to quit is because they like it and it is a CHOICE based on personal preferences. I honestly feel bad for those smokers who are trying to quit, any addiction is hard to break, but personally I doubt I will ever quit because I do not want to and yes I am not HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE I know its bad for you but fork it so is cheese and candy and no one will nag me into stop consuming those things either. this is just another thread to try to piss people off into an argument. lol, look it worked
/end rant
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By Sylph.Dubberrucky 2009-11-09 20:19:38
Ramuh.Annabelle said: If you believe taxes on tobacco outweigh the burden placed on the national healthcare system by smoking-related illnesses, you are most definitely smoking something stronger than tobacco.
There is a national health care system? Oh, I live in the USA all we have is health business here where we have to pay for insurance out of own pockets at varying over-inflated rates, where do you live?
Cerberus.Katarzyna
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-11-09 20:35:58
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Sylph.Dubberrucky said: There is a national health care system?
Quoted multiple times so maybe certain people *stares* will get their heads out of their *** for a second and think about what they're saying.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-11-09 20:41:18
Pandemonium.Vincentius said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
4). Every time someone lights up around me, I yell out "SIX MINUTES!"
And one of these times you do that, it's going to cut off the rest of your entire life, as that smoker, tired of ridicule from idiots like you, smashes your skull in.
so far, I either get a nervous laugh or a pissy-faced expression as a response. I guess I haven;t found the real anal, ash-faced smokers who have Nicotine flowing through their veins.
oh yeah, SIX MINUTES!
Diabolos.Aurawnt
サーバ: Diabolos
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By Diabolos.Aurawnt 2009-11-09 21:05:52
I just quit smoking last week, after reading this thread I lit up. Thanks Why'd you start this thread anyway, shaman?
Why do you smoke? What is the reason for you smoking and what is the motivation of you continuing to smoke?
(Pot doesn't count. >.>;)
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