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Stellar Blade Leaked Demo (Nier Automata clone?)
By Afania 2024-06-19 08:28:05
If they do end up going ahead with this I think they will be irrelevant in 5 years, when they could have gone ahead and been a market leading game developer like Fromsoft or Larian.
The market leading game developer in Korea is Nexon(I think), which is a public company. In case if you don't know how successful Nexon is: Nexon market cap is 15 billion, with more than 7000 employees. That's WAY bigger than Japanese game dev like SE or Capcom.
No one will in the industry with right mind will ever say "Nexon is irrelevant".
I still can't see why your personal personal preference on games and boobs is in any way related to the future of a business.
Krafton is practically dead as a company now
What do you mean by Krafton is dead? Just last month I read an article about Krafton's record broking revenue in 2024 Q1. They also said Q1 revenue increased by over 20% compared with 2023 Q4
How is a company "dead" if their revenue is increasing lol.
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By Afania 2024-06-19 08:52:21
Then if that game flops you went public and sold your soul for nothing.
Come on, it's Korea that we are talking about here. A country that created industry giants like 3Ns(Nexon, NCSoft, Netmarble) each has thousands of employees and dominated a good portion of industry for a long long time. You seriously underestimate how Koreans do business if you believe that's the case.
A high profile aspiring Korean studio that strongly supported government policy dying from going public? You must be joking. It's a country that everyone and their mother AND government supported big Korean business. That's how Samsung dominated the industry. Don't judge how Koreans run their business using western experience. It doesn't work that way.
Edit: source.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2024/06/129_373816.html
Korean government literally said they will focus on console games in the next 5 years, it is their national policy. I would bet with government support SU will grow instead of dying. Literally every Korean industry in the past being supported by the government has became mega Corp. Why would SU be any different?
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By Asura.Saevel 2024-06-19 16:47:48
If they do end up going ahead with this I think they will be irrelevant in 5 years, when they could have gone ahead and been a market leading game developer like Fromsoft or Larian.
Companies that put the customer first are going to dominate in a way a company that puts the investor first will not, very often these public companies coast on past victories and brands when they were customer first orientated.
Going public for a video game company does not make your company better or create better products in a way a company making real world goods would. You can't invest that money into things that make a better product, you just invest it into making a new game. Then if that game flops you went public and sold your soul for nothing.
Krafton is practically dead as a company now, and they deserve to be in that position.
*Blink Blink*
Umm ... most all those companies have publicly traded stock on the KRX. Krafton, Nexon, NCSoft, they are all doing quite well for themselves. Light gaming (not AAA+) is massive in both Korea and Japan. Big powerful computers are kinda expensive and most everyone has lower power systems, or uses PC rooms to play, so lighter graphics games are super common and profitable. Most do not get ported over here though.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2024-06-19 17:04:52
Young Kratos from earlier games can be considered hot maybe. But old Kratos from newer games looks like 45-50 yr old dude. Age has a negative effect on the look after all.
I'm neither gay nor a woman and I still understand the appeal of silver foxes. I usually agree with a lot of your points but it's totally culturally tone deaf to say this. Both straight/bi women and gay/bi men love older guys that take care of themselves physically. Even canonically hideous characters like Geralt have *** of females salivating over him. Solas from Dragon Age: looks like an aged egg, has dedicated groupies. Let's not even get into the implications of the daddy kink.
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By RadialArcana 2024-06-19 18:19:46
Doom Guy and Kratos are supposed to be a power fantasy for men who play them and are effectively a self insert, the entire point of the characters was for them to be shallow because the entire game is about killing stuff and having fun. The story was supposed to be there purely as an excuse to kill stuff and f**k women with big t**s. Not some kind of deep and meaningful life story where doom guy / Kratos realize they are actually being toxic man and they need to get in touch with their feminine side.
They changed it into a deep and meaningful story game (instead of making something new), because all these developers are old men now and they have this incredibly exaggerated view of what they do, like they are changing the world and social engineering men to be better.
Just make a game where we can kill stuff and stop trying to lecture the world with your shi**y ps5 game, only reason it sold well was cause of the brand people loved and because almost all western games are this soy garbage now.
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By Viciouss 2024-06-19 19:06:28
lol, just quit while you're behind.
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-06-20 01:40:34
Young Kratos from earlier games can be considered hot maybe. But old Kratos from newer games looks like 45-50 yr old dude. Age has a negative effect on the look after all.
Imagine game dev make a female character that looks like a 40-50 year old. You will get a drastically different reaction from the community. But that's exactly the sexy one, not the young Kratos!
Daddy Kratos ftw!
I swear he's a pretty sought after gay icon lulz
By Afania 2024-06-20 01:45:44
Valefor.Prothescar said: »I'm neither gay nor a woman and I still understand the appeal of silver foxes.
But Kratos is bald D;
It could be cultural difference on the definition of the term "sexually appealing". My impression is that in my culture he strongly remind people of homeless dude on the street that doesn't even shave D; But that's probably more of a cultural difference on face and shaving preference.
I do find Geralt in game quite attractive though, even the old one. If book Geralt looks like game Geralt then he probably underrated his appearance.
By Afania 2024-06-20 01:55:27
*Blink Blink*
Umm ... most all those companies have publicly traded stock on the KRX. Krafton, Nexon, NCSoft, they are all doing quite well for themselves. Light gaming (not AAA+) is massive in both Korea and Japan. Big powerful computers are kinda expensive and most everyone has lower power systems, or uses PC rooms to play, so lighter graphics games are super common and profitable. Most do not get ported over here though.
This. Radial's definition on irrelevant = western media doesn't talk about it.
Even if Nexon has 2k more employees than Square enix and 4.5 times higher market cap, if western media doesn't talk about it it is irrelevant to Radial lol.
Korean public game companies are very relevant in the industry and they made mad profit in the last 24 years. They just don't care about western market until very recently that's all. Doesn't mean they are irrelevant.
Edit: On a side note I just learned National Pension service is the largest investor in South Korea. Which also owned large amount of NCSoft shares.
For Koreans, public companies are the matter of their pensions and food on the table, for Radial public companies are the matter of boobs in video games.
Which is more important? Boobs or pension? Who will pay for the pension without public companies?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-06-20 15:06:39
Unrelated to SB, but related to gamers are all sexist bigots who hate women and need to sexualize them:
Why is there no outrage over the Zelda game? They wrote out the male lead and made Zelda the main character. Thats ripe for the picking to be classified as woke pandering garbage.
But, theres nothing. Why? Could it be because they they didnt just slap a sword in her hands, essentially pallet swapping her with Link?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-06-20 15:16:43
Having said that, my hype for Metroid Prime 4 took a bit of a hit when I found out that Retro Studios hired a game writer who has gone on record saying Samus should be transgender.
And before anyone says something like “who caree, its Metroid, theres not much story that can be done”, let me remind you of the cesspool known Other M aka Samus the badass intergalactic bounty hunter now has daddy issues.
https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Megan_Fausti
Funny how all the sexist bigot gamers were pissed as how that game made Samus look.
By Viciouss 2024-06-20 15:35:05
Worked on Jedi Fallen Order? Solid resume she has there.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-06-21 09:33:34
Well i read she was fired from Retro in June 2022, and her linked in says she works with Certain Affinity.
Samus is safe and the galaxy is at peace.
By Afania 2024-06-21 13:20:59
Well i read she was fired from Retro in June 2022, and her linked in says she works with Certain Affinity.
Samus is safe and the galaxy is at peace.
Well Metroid is a Nintendo IP and Retro Studios parent company is Nintendo. Which is a Japanese company.
It is 2024 and gay marriage aren't even allowed in Japan.
You are worrying too much if you believe Japanese would let western woke make their well-known character a trans lol. Society wise Japan is not there yet.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-06-21 13:23:40
You are worrying too much if you believe Japanese would let western woke make their well-known character a trans lol. Society wise Japan is based.
Konichiwa
Thats never been a sufficient firewall though. The English localizers can still spread their cancer and the Japanese will never know.
By RadialArcana 2024-07-16 07:41:11
There it is, ESG compliance unlocked
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2024-07-16 09:20:52
Well i read she was fired from Retro in June 2022, and her linked in says she works with Certain Affinity.
Samus is safe and the galaxy is at peace.
Well Metroid is a Nintendo IP and Retro Studios parent company is Nintendo. Which is a Japanese company.
It is 2024 and gay marriage aren't even allowed in Japan.
You are worrying too much if you believe Japanese would let western woke make their well-known character a trans lol. Society wise Japan is not there yet.
Asian cultures, have been in favor of transgender over homosexuality. homosexuality is non-conforming where transgender would in theory make that relationship conforming.
Not that I disagree with your conclusion that they would scoff at the idea of making Samus retroactively trans, just the cultures have a much more favorable view of transgender behaviors and that full acceptance of that before LGB would not be a surprise.
By RadialArcana 2024-07-16 09:39:16
Everything gets lumped into Transgender these days, because the west is like that and it's a current culture war thing.
In Japan I believe most of the characters people call trans were not originally at all and they see this stuff very differently, they are either femboy characters (opposite of tomboy) or drag (dress as and take on the persona of a specific female character, while still identifying as a man when not doing that).
All this stuff has been in Anime and JP video games for years, and nobody cared till recently.
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By Afania 2024-07-16 09:59:14
Well i read she was fired from Retro in June 2022, and her linked in says she works with Certain Affinity.
Samus is safe and the galaxy is at peace.
Well Metroid is a Nintendo IP and Retro Studios parent company is Nintendo. Which is a Japanese company.
It is 2024 and gay marriage aren't even allowed in Japan.
You are worrying too much if you believe Japanese would let western woke make their well-known character a trans lol. Society wise Japan is not there yet.
Asian cultures, have been in favor of transgender over homosexuality. homosexuality is non-conforming where transgender would in theory make that relationship conforming.
Not that I disagree with your conclusion that they would scoff at the idea of making Samus retroactively trans, just the cultures have a much more favorable view of transgender behaviors and that full acceptance of that before LGB would not be a surprise.
Are you talking about guys dress up as girls or girls dress up like a guy in Japanese entertainment industry? That's not the same as transgender afaik
Japan's transgender right isn't particularly progressive afaik. It wasn't until 2023 that they finally won a court battle on sterilization law:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/25/victory-transgender-rights-japan
Also 90% of Japanese transgender job seeker said they face difficulty in life.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190414/p2a/00m/0na/012000c#:~:text=TOKYO%20%2D%2D%20Some%2090%20percent,according%20to%20a%20recent%20survey.
Just some time ago I've read some Twitter argument about how transgender people should or shouldn't enter hot springs in Japan. I really don't see how Japan is particularly progressive on this matter.
(Now if you discuss entire Asia, includes Islamic states like Malaysia or Brunei, which punishes LGBTQ harshly, then the discussion on transgender right in Asia pretty much end here.)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-07-17 01:46:26
Stellar Blade 2 will see Eve gain 100 pounds, chop her hair down to a crew cut and insist her new name is Steve.
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By RadialArcana 2024-07-17 03:49:59
In 2024 you're lucky to get one good game from a company before they sell out and goto the fires of investor hell.
So gotta be thankful for that.
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-07-17 05:11:50
Stellar Blade 2 will see Eve gain 100 pounds, chop her hair down to a crew cut and insist her new name is Steve. Make her get lotsa body hair and we have a deal, sir!
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By Asura.Sechs 2024-07-17 05:14:25
(Now if you discuss entire Asia It's just Thailand and Philippines (maybe some other small state too) that have an APPEARENTLY (emphasis on this) more open mind when it comes to transgender, compared to homosexuality and everything else.
It's just appearence and there are social, cultural and historical reasons for that.
But the entirety of Asia? Lolno, absolutely not.
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By RadialArcana 2024-07-17 05:18:07
Stellar Blade 2 will see Eve gain 100 pounds
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2024-07-17 08:41:06
Sorry I should have said East-Asia,
Here is a specific article for Japan and how advocates for trans rights associate them with the disabled community rather than the gay and lesbian community.
https://georgetownvoice.com/2015/10/23/yale-professor-nakamura-discusses-japanese-transgender-identity-and-disability/
Quote: According to Nakamura, many Americans often question the decision of Japanese transgendered people to align themselves with disability communities rather than with the gay and lesbian community, but framing transsexuality as a disability makes more sense in Japanese culture. Transgender people tend to have closer relationships with doctors and other medical services, and LGBTQ movements have never caught much attention in Japan.
“Having a disability is a strong way for [transgendered Japanese] to articulate this element of difference that is easily accepted by Japanese employers, by their friends, and so forth. Part of this is because the lesbian and gay movement has not particularly had traction in Japan, and articulating that they are like lesbians and gays opens a whole class of questions that they don’t want to answer … ‘Disability’ sounds like a medical condition that can get fixed,” Nakamura said.
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By Asura.Saevel 2024-07-17 09:06:04
Everything gets lumped into Transgender these days, because the west is like that and it's a current culture war thing.
In Japan I believe most of the characters people call trans were not originally at all and they see this stuff very differently, they are either femboy characters (opposite of tomboy) or drag (dress as and take on the persona of a specific female character, while still identifying as a man when not doing that).
All this stuff has been in Anime and JP video games for years, and nobody cared till recently.
East Asia culturally tends to treat cross dressing as fun and entertaining. This has nothing to do with the alphabet community, a dude that puts on a dress and makeup to goof off still considers himself a dude afterward. CosPlay is just people having fun in the same way a kids do when they are young.
Now if those same people walked into a board meeting dressed like that... yeah there are going to be consequences.
Now South East Asia is different, Vietnam or Cambodia have a very stern view on the matter. Thailand is the odd one out due to their culture of "live and let live". The people genuinely do not care what you do, as long as you do not bother your neighbors.
By Afania 2024-07-17 10:22:12
The fact that transgender people in Japan has to frame themselves as disability rather than LGBTQ group with different sexual orientation shows that transgender right in Japan is one tier worse than more progressive countries.
It's literally telling the public "we have disability, please give us sympathy" in exchange for acceptance in the society, while other groups don't need to do that for acceptance.
All things considered I really don't see how transgender right is that good in east Asia. Are they more accepted in Thailand? Maybe. In East Asia? Lolno.
By Afania 2024-07-17 10:41:51
Sorry I should have said East-Asia,
Not really any different tbh:
Korea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_South_Korea
Quote: Transgender and gender diverse South Koreans face discriminatory challenges unique to their communities.[2] It said that employment is difficult to for transgender people because certain jobs are often gendered.[62] Koreans are less likely to support marriage equality for transgender people.[61]
China:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_China
Quote: According to a survey conducted by Peking University, Chinese trans female students face strong discrimination in many areas of education.
Quote: It is also difficult to change the gender information of educational attainments and academic degrees in China, even after sex reassignment surgery, which results in discrimination against well-educated trans women
Quote: In China, trans women are required to receive approval from their entire family, prove they have no criminal record, and undergo psychological intervention in order to be allowed a prescription for hormone medication.
There are no evidence to support what you said about transgender right in east Asia is true.
This is a leaked (it was on the ps store for 20 mins before being taken down) demo of Stellar Blade. It's trying so hard to be Nier Automata and I'm here for it, it looks pretty good so far (even though the guy playing it seems to be potato powered and can't block). The music especially is amazing, art style is great too though and I like the idea of the story (aliens took over the planet, humanity fled and created these androids to fight for them).
Hope the demo gets released officially soon.
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