If Horizon Had A $1 Monthly Fee

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By Kipling 2023-11-13 23:46:10  
Are you asking for a bribe because you are poor? Embarrassing.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-11-13 23:47:18  
No, I'm asking for a bribe because Horizon players are poors and if 12.95 is out of their price range, 1 million is WAAAAY out of their price range.
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By Kipling 2023-11-13 23:56:37  
Yeah true. Why play a bad video game for free when you could pay for 6-18 monthly subscriptions to play a bad video game instead. At least that way you aren’t poor.
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By Homsar 2023-11-14 00:32:40  
Draylo said: »
taking my quotes out of context

You literally said people talking about having fun on Horizon is a problem lmao like you literally posted screenshots of you having a shitfit because someone said "Come play Horizon" on Youtube hahahahaha

Draylo said: »
Every post you make? I don't even know what your channel is. When something is labeled as FFXI, it comes up in my feed. The majority of the videos are simply labeled "FFXI", not the name of whatever private server it is. Your little ad push has flooded all social media with that crap, its not surprise I saw it and commented. Any subsequent comments were probably replying to people.

"You don't understand, I HAVE TO FIGHT THESE INTERNET FIGHTS AGAINST THE FUN-HAVERS!"
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By Draylo 2023-11-14 00:38:36  
You are just trolling at this point, boring
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By Bahamut.Vethric 2023-11-14 00:41:07  
i can only assume there are so many pserver cultists in here b/c they're still waiting for that new content that was promised like 6 months ago

i wonder if they even realize how many devs have abandoned aerec & co's vanity project
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By Homsar 2023-11-14 00:41:20  
Draylo said: »
You are just trolling at this point, boring

You literally posted screenshots of yourself having shitfits over people saying "Come try Horizon" or that they played in 2009 and the world seemed empty lmao
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By Draylo 2023-11-14 00:44:29  
Keep trying harder, you'll get it eventually
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By Homsar 2023-11-14 00:49:06  
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Keep trying harder, you'll get it eventually

There's not really much to get. You provide countless examples of yourself being a frothing-at-the-mouth internet crusader.
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By Draylo 2023-11-14 00:50:25  
What does that make you?
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By Homsar 2023-11-14 00:56:04  
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What does that make you?

A spectator at the Draylo circus, where one can see mental gymnastics, conspiracy theories, curmudgeonly bitterness, and outright nonsensical rambling, free of charge!
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By Asura.Sensarity 2023-11-14 03:24:48  
Draylo said: »
You are just trolling at this point, boring
Pot, meet kettle.
 
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By Asura.Briko 2023-11-14 08:40:21  
Draylo said: »
jEEZE, take some time before you post so you can actually think and not have to constantly edit it. Saying what someone said is garbage is not a personal attack, so yea.

Retail and Horizon are not two different games. They are using stolen assets from the real game (including post 99 items), using similar content. missions/storylines and systems the real game had etc. Its fair to compare them like we've been doing as they are from the same game. You are reaching really hard right now, please take a breath.
Super Kaizo World and other mario mods are the same game as Super Mario World... stolen assets yada yada.

If you really want to kill horizon and other private servers then you should join the campaigns for an official "classic" server supported by SE. The masses would jump to the official product if it exsisted... but it does not.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-11-14 08:44:59  
Kipling said: »
Yeah true. Why play a bad video game for free when you could pay for 6-18 monthly subscriptions to play a bad video game instead. At least that way you aren’t poor.
Imagine being proud to be poor. Gross.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-11-14 08:48:04  
Asura.Briko said: »
If you really want to kill horizon and other private servers then you should join the campaigns for an official "classic" server supported by SE. The masses would jump to the official product if it exsisted... but it does not.

How does one join the "campaign" for a classic server? Hate to tell you, but people have been asking for this for a decade. SE knows that people want a classic FFXI server but similar to WoW, it's probably an incredible amount of effort to create a commercial-quality version of classic FFXI, because they likely haven't maintained all the code for that version of the game. They've evaluated this already and determined that there's not enough demand for it to be worth spending all that development effort and splitting their existing player base in two.

It's not even remotely economically viable, unless you're using volunteer labor, have low standards for code quality, and aren't charging a subscription for it.
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By Ragnarok.Creaucent 2023-11-14 08:51:36  
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Draylo said: »
jEEZE, take some time before you post so you can actually think and not have to constantly edit it. Saying what someone said is garbage is not a personal attack, so yea.

Retail and Horizon are not two different games. They are using stolen assets from the real game (including post 99 items), using similar content. missions/storylines and systems the real game had etc. Its fair to compare them like we've been doing as they are from the same game. You are reaching really hard right now, please take a breath.
Super Kaizo World and other mario mods are the same game as Super Mario World... stolen assets yada yada.

If you really want to kill horizon and other private servers then you should join the campaigns for an official "classic" server supported by SE. The masses would jump to the official product if it exsisted... but it does not.

But would they though? Surely the main attraction to a private server is because it is free and secondly because its FFXI. Though the population of Horizon is too small for SE to even stop and think that it would be worth their time and money to make.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-11-14 08:55:48  
But Horizon always has 4000 players!! Every other private server could barely crack 300, but that just shows how high demand is now.

No they're not faking numbers, its just so popular!!
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2023-11-14 09:21:59  
The biggest problem with "classic" ffxi is what is "classic"? is it pre-Zilart, pre-CoP, pre-ToAU, pre-WoG or pre-Abyssea? do the mini expansions count as classic?

Personally I started playing just before CoP released so that for me is classic FFXI, I also know I do not have the time I did as a middle school kid to devote to the game.
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By Asura.Briko 2023-11-14 10:29:17  
I still stand by the statement. The suresest way to kill private servers is to make official classic servers. The specifics of what that server entails is irrelevant to the statement.
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By Idiot Boy 2023-11-14 10:45:46  
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
just before CoP released
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middle school kid
pls excuse me while I go crumble to dust
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By Asura.Gweivyth 2023-11-14 10:53:44  
Kipling, do yourself a favor and stop responding. What you're doing here is the exact same thing that people used to make fun of me for. You aren't helping your cause.
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2023-11-14 10:57:11  
Idiot Boy said: »
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
just before CoP released
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
middle school kid
pls excuse me while I go crumble to dust

ya...some of us were handling sleepless nights due to our 1st child with EXP parties between the waking up in Boyahda Tree in that era.
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By Asura.Gweivyth 2023-11-14 11:02:24  
Bahamut.Celebrindal said: »
Idiot Boy said: »
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
just before CoP released
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
middle school kid
pls excuse me while I go crumble to dust

ya...some of us were handling sleepless nights due to our 1st child with EXP parties between the waking up in Boyahda Tree in that era.
What we have here, folks, is a card-carrying member of AARP. <3
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-11-14 16:38:27  
Idiot Boy said: »
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
just before CoP released
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
middle school kid
pls excuse me while I go crumble to dust

I seem to remember reviewing your application to LOO a long time ago, back when LS's had applications.

That's how old we are...
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By drakefs 2023-11-14 16:46:47  
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That's how hold we are...

Hold indeed...
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By Draylo 2023-11-14 17:14:30  
I've been playing this game since i was 12, I would watch that live vanadiel every day until my dad got the game for me. I brought the guide book to school and would read it lol.

The 75 era should remain in our memories, no classic server is needed. Those resources are better spent on an expansion and actually caring about the game. I dont get why would people want to go back officially when we have so much freedom with jobs now, so many cool spells and equipment etc. We just need better content to use it with.
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By Odin.Senaki 2023-11-14 18:13:28  
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Kipling said: »
Yeah true. Why play a bad video game for free when you could pay for 6-18 monthly subscriptions to play a bad video game instead. At least that way you aren’t poor.
Imagine being proud to be poor. Gross.

Don’t income shame me!
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By Asura.Briko 2023-11-14 18:47:30  
Draylo said: »
I've been playing this game since i was 12, I would watch that live vanadiel every day until my dad got the game for me. I brought the guide book to school and would read it lol.

The 75 era should remain in our memories, no classic server is needed. Those resources are better spent on an expansion and actually caring about the game. I dont get why would people want to go back officially when we have so much freedom with jobs now, so many cool spells and equipment etc. We just need better content to use it with.
Game isn't the same. Been playing since 2003, I enjoy all eras except odyssey-present. Retail is not enjoyable to me anymore, the proliferation of 3rd party tools, bots, gearswap, and multiboxing, along with increased amount of daily time gates is obnoxious.

EDIT: The major reason why I and others like myself enjoy going back to start over is because a fresh economy reset is a really fun experience. Same reason I enjoy games like Path of Exile. Would absolutely love official progression servers that start at 0 and release expansion after expansion over time until it lines up with current retail. Hell, this idea would likely even bring in new blood to retail in the long run.
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By Setsuko 2023-11-14 19:15:40  
Draylo said: »
I've been playing this game since i was 12, I would watch that live vanadiel every day until my dad got the game for me. I brought the guide book to school and would read it lol.

The 75 era should remain in our memories, no classic server is needed. Those resources are better spent on an expansion and actually caring about the game. I dont get why would people want to go back officially when we have so much freedom with jobs now, so many cool spells and equipment etc. We just need better content to use it with.

Money is rarely why a lot of us installed a private server. It's the desire to experience 75 era again. As much as I hate camping, it is a unique experience with a level of excitement you just don't get out of running sortie or omen. There's something that is so exhilarating about low-man claiming a king or Khim/Cerb and having to hold with just a couple of people while you call people and ping discord to get everyone out there for the fight. Or having the boys show up for a day 8 Faf/Nid at 3am and you get claim and double a. body drops or something. The intermittent schedule of reinforcement keeps us coming back for more even 20 years later.

People should play whatever they find to be more fun, and some just don't enjoy retail at all.
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