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By Pantafernando 2021-07-15 05:26:26  
Too much hate for a filler-type content.

They are just buying time.
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By alzeerffxi 2021-07-15 09:03:02  
So what's the best Strat to do this on VD?
 
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By joemamma 2021-07-15 10:02:03  
500 runs later I can't weapon to get that knife.


SE: Working as intended.
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By RadialArcana 2021-07-15 10:22:44  
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By Krog 2021-07-15 10:54:20  
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Odin.Kingofthenorth said: »
Really hope there is a gimmick because doing this over and over hundreds of times is not appealing.
You're sayin this as if the Lilith BC didn't happen.
At least with that there was a way to improve odds.
Which hardly mattered, in the end?

But I guess with Lilith, more than the low drop rate, the main problem was the loot pool that was a bit too large and made it difficult to target specific items that you needed.

That problem alone should be smaller when it comes to Shinryu, I suppose.
It's not much smaller for Shinryu. The rarest drops from Lilith are 5 pieces of armor at approximately 1% chance each. The rarest drops from Shinryu are 3 pieces of armor and 2 weapons at an estimated 1% chance each. You could argue that people won't be as anal about catching them all for Shinryu, but I see value in them and will be aiming for the full set. The drop pool only seems less cluttered because the junk drops are more monotonous.
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By SimonSes 2021-07-15 11:01:41  
From the video it looks like copy paste effect of what we had before, so most likely 45%HP/45%MP/10%TP drain distribution and proc rate 5-95% depends on magic accuracy.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-07-15 11:03:06  
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Is that proccing every hit!??

most of the hits, even the Xa's
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By Shiva.Thorny 2021-07-15 11:14:44  
Krog said: »
The rarest drops from Lilith are 5 pieces of armor at approximately 1% chance each. The rarest drops from Shinryu are 3 pieces of armor and 2 weapons at an estimated 1% chance each.

This is assuming you do Lilith on E/VE, if we use current impressions to assume Shinryu drops are 1% on VD(which seems a little premature, but w.e), then you still have to consider that a capable group is able to do Lilith on VD with adds and get a drop almost every run.

If there's not some kind of gimmick, it's a pretty harsh grind.
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By regist 2021-07-15 12:32:56  
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RDM soloing Shinryu VD
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By Guyford 2021-07-15 12:51:59  
Just got Scythe solo VD rdm with TH4 on like 70th fight.

Of course its the piece I wanted the least.
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By Shichishito 2021-07-15 13:22:02  
ofc not enough data but 70 runs for a piece sounds about in line with malignance droprate.

and of course RDMs can solo the latest content on hardest difficulty because why wouldn't they.
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By Asura.Rafike 2021-07-15 13:24:50  
70 runs on VD would most definitely not be in line with malignance drop rate
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By Shichishito 2021-07-15 13:36:12  
70 runs on E for a piece of malignance. i never did higher difficulty lilith but i read droprate isn't much better if you ignore the wardens. maybe there is a gimmick and the difficulty alone doesn't make much of a difference for the armor/weapon droprate?

they said it would be more annoying than lilith, seeing a RDM solo it on first day doesn't fit in.
maybe it has something to do with his signature move mighty guard? maybe have to try and proc him while it's active? did anyone have success without dispelling MG?
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-07-15 14:45:49  
Drop rate for VD Lilith is around 50% with TH, though you still get many more poles and swords than armor.

They said it's be more annoying than Lilith on E/VE, which isn't a huge achievwmsnt since she doesn't have Spitewardens or even a second form on those levels.
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By Krog 2021-07-15 15:40:14  
Shichishito said: »
70 runs on E for a piece of malignance. i never did higher difficulty lilith but i read droprate isn't much better if you ignore the wardens. maybe there is a gimmick and the difficulty alone doesn't make much of a difference for the armor/weapon droprate?

they said it would be more annoying than lilith, seeing a RDM solo it on first day doesn't fit in.
maybe it has something to do with his signature move mighty guard? maybe have to try and proc him while it's active? did anyone have success without dispelling MG?

Drop slots for Shinryu are based on difficulty. The trouble is the distribution of drops within the slot. Just like Lilith drops accessories and weapons most of the time she drops anything, Shinryu drops accessories most of the time he drops anything. I haven't fought spitewardens, I don't know if their drop slot acts differently.

As for dispelling mighty guard, a good macc set on drk can dispel the dispellable portion of it (and give it to you, for 60 sec of meditate).
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-07-15 17:00:48  
From my experience on Lilith VD (about 300 runs), my estimate for the drop distribution (when you get a drop) is something like:

Malignance Sword: 35%
Malignance Pole: 25%
Malignance Earring: 15%
Daybreak: 10%
Malignance Chapeau: 3%
Malignance Tabard: 3%
Malignance Gloves: 3%
Malignance Tights: 3%
Malignance Boots: 3%
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By Shichishito 2021-07-16 05:54:41  
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looks like SCH can solo VD as well. ofc less of a cake walk than with RDM.

just noticed shinryu stopped attacking after his fancy animated doom move till the holy waters removed it. that's pretty damn nice SE.
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-07-16 06:39:04  
It absolutely did not stop attacking after Doom when I fought it.
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By Shichishito 2021-07-16 06:43:35  
at around 10:56 he dooms him, hits one more time and then looks like he stops and does nothing. kinda looks like wants to attack but then resets animation instead, there is also a lot of yellow text in chat, maybe just a very lucky streak of paralyze procs?
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By Asura.Dothraki 2021-07-17 12:05:06  
Any word on when they’re implementing the emergency maintenance to fix drop rates?
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By Pantafernando 2021-07-17 13:52:59  
What is there to fix?
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By Jetackuu 2021-07-17 14:07:51  
Pantafernando said: »
What is there to fix?
people are bitching about the drop rates being low
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-07-17 14:50:11  
Asura.Dothraki said: »
Any word on when they’re implementing the emergency maintenance to fix drop rates?
Nothing other than it'll go into effect when they finish programming it.
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By Cerberus.Darkvlade 2021-07-17 15:00:58  
Been spamming D on Blu, so far 18 fights and 3 earrings, 2 rings
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By Asura.Chevalios 2021-07-18 00:18:31  
There is a good chance they didn't know that would happen. Chance is any ppl that worked on abyssea are long gone. They might've thought it functioned like BCNMS. The design was flawed back in 2011 or whenever it came out. Now it's just coming back with a vengeance
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2021-07-18 02:54:41  
Not sure it's been posted, but got it to drop tonight, maybe the 2nd slot is the only slot that has the good gear?
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By Bahamut.Neb 2021-07-18 08:01:11  
Showing off the almost perfect Beitetsu Trifecta are we, shame on you.

JK Congratulation Glad it exisits
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