Lilith HTBF

I'm jealous; it took me about 300 VD runs (with me as the only lotter), and I already had legs from ~400 E runs when I switched to VD.

Sup

Anyone have an updated strat for Lilith +3 adds?

The only video i see is quite old, wondering if new gear can make more accessible to average geared people to farm this more efficiently.

Thanks in advamce

What’s your strategy for zerging on VD? Do you just super buff a MNK or DRK with capped subtle blow and then have others in the party rotate using Absorb-TP?

Awesome, thanks for clarifying that. I would much rather give this a try than to continue through the slog of spamming E hoping to get the right drop. I appreciate the detailed strategy!

Victory smite her until she gives

SCH solo it. It's easy!

But make sure you bring a THF for TH. It totally helps...you believe that anything will make this better.

Idk man, watching her slowly die on VD is pretty satisfying. Lots of time to yell obscenities at her. And then you get the loot and you never go back.

Plus you don't have to pretend the BRD COR GEO WHM players are having fun while the other 2 people get to actually play the game

That's when she prefers to be Fisted.

I've been trying this recently on THF solo at Easy level. Wiki says that Trance occurs at <50% and is freely available. This is incorrect. She can do it right from the start. Twice I've not even got the first WS off and she charmed me. Without trust support it's instant game over. If I have to turn away at the start and wait for the Gyve thing to pop to get TP then that's just a waste of time. Takes ages.

You're looking at the details for the mission battle. The High Tier Mission Battlefield version below it (noted with the star) has Fatal Allure listed as any time. The details note it's used on Easy or above.

Also: you can turn away from Fatal Allure. It's actually not very difficult to do, it has a decent ready time. Only time you can really get stuck is during WS animations. Time your WS when she's using/just used a TP move to avoid getting animation locked during a Fatal Allure. You'll get used to it with time.

Who’s your profile pic of? I recognize her from somewhere.

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This is FFXIAH, not Tinder

on vd if you replace the geo with a smn then on form 2 you can perfect def and the support can join the zerg and kill it in 30 seconds. And have the mnk open with staff and use shell crusher then h2h kill.

and with a warlocks on the thf and brd if /drk, and have some macc gears, their stuns and absorb-tps will land pretty ok in the first round to make it even easier on the mnk to get to the second form. Then dont forget to use last resort on the /drk jobs for the 2nd form zerg.

whole fight with buffs can take about 4 mins this way.

bringing this thread back to life. im 3/5 now im paying mercs because im tired of running VE lol.

Why not make a party for VD? Or at least try to solo it on Normal (or Easy) with SCH? Seems like it would take just about the same amount of effort as griping about it here.

I know its an old game and I am not oblivious to the merc culture on other servers and that's a topic in itself... but I do find it disheartening that the culture as a whole doesn't first migrate to linkshell members helping out or just general players helping. This game once upon a time was based on the community simply helping one another. I solo lots of HTBF's and v0 ody unlocks for people in my shell whenever they want some help, most often its VD Lilith and VD Shinryu, but yeah its nice just helping out, otherwise some players that are newer just get frustrated with the game and leave. I find 75% of my time in this game nowadays is simply helping others, the other 25% is for me basically doing only ody/sortie lol.

Very much so. "People didn't help me get 5/5 Malig pieces so I quit".

I usually help people I like, or new players that are very grateful with whatever help they get. If they are unwilling to do the grind, this game is not for them.

SMN can also solo E very easily with Siren now with the pet defense update.

Valid points for sure ^^ and I agree with them. Balance is necessary... my comment was more in the direction of the community actually playing together and helping one another rather than a bunch of solo people getting stuff through mercs. Because that in itself also creates a player base that may or may not comprehend and appreciate the work it took for others to get where they are and who have put in the work etc. Then they get bored because they bought and paid for everything and deem that there is "Nothing to do, I have everything soooo I guess I'll quit now because I am bored" lol.

I am just an advocate for helping people is all, I would rather go down with that ship than the alternative.

I've kind of been of the mindset that most people spam her on VE, unless they get blessed with a friend group/make a group to do her on VD.

I've just been spamming her VE. Have killed her maybe 80 times?

Have gotten:
Malignance Sword, Daybreak, Malignance Pole, Malignance Earring, and Malignance Tights.

I'd love to get a group for it, but I'm chronically shy about grouping for much outside of Ambu these days. I feel like I don't know anything/anyone endgamey, and like I'll be viewed as a leech if I get help from people with the levels/gear to slaughter her on VD with relative ease.

I don't wanna feel like I got a hand out, but it sure would be nice. Especially seeing/meeting other people who do in Ambu lol. Like there's this one dude. Apparently he returned and was still on pretty good terms with his buds from the before times. They took him places and got his WAR full Sakpata's. He admitted he'd been given it as a hand out, but like a few weeks later had upped his Ambu standards to only Intense D or higher.

Since I can beat her on at least VE though, I kind of view her as a solo target to work on. Shinryu on the other hand, I can't seem to be alone even on VE by myself. Just don't have the raw power needed since I've got no jobs mastered.

Have you tried tequila?

I'm more of a sake or vodka kind of guy.

I farmed most of my pieces on E with a SB capped MNK. Most of the pieces came pretty quickly until I got down to one left, that took around 80-90 tries just to get the stupid feet to drop. Almost every time I did VD with someone else, we never got what I needed (a coincidence, I know). Maybe I was just lucky, but I think I killed her with at least 90% success this way.

I'd get unlucky here and there, but once you learn the mechanics of the fight and get into a rhythm, you can pretty consistently kill her on E even if your MNK isn't super geared out. It's been ages, but IIRC the main thing is to make sure you turn when her spikes go up so you don't die to those, giving trusts enough time to dispel the spikes. I think I avoided any long SC attempts, just doing whatever WS did more damage, because otherwise you lose damage if you have to turn to avoid spikes. You can kite her around to make sure the fetters don't damage you or your trusts. Be sure to use Chi Blast to inhibit her TP and you can try to stick plague with Shijin, although I could never tell if it actually landed or not. For TH, if someone was available, I would have them try to stick Bounty Shot instead of using a THF, but that wasn't every time, otherwise it was just me and trusts.

The one thing I did differently than others was using Path B Sagitta, this allowed me to cap SB easier and swap in some pieces where I would normally need SB, as well as making it easier to cap DT and the added attack helped TP gain