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 Asura.Zihi
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By Asura.Zihi 2018-11-08 16:26:09  
Omen bodies for EVERYONE, happy hunting!
By volkom 2018-11-08 17:30:59  
Phoenix.Tearxx said: »
Vouchers can't be d-boxed between main and alts right?

right
 Cerberus.Genoside
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By Cerberus.Genoside 2018-11-08 23:24:11  
So as many might have overlooked the N.P.C. did mention your quality of items received from thuds and loud thuds, would be better based upon how much you have traded to the A.M.A.N. Re-claimer N.P.C.
That being said based upon the results of 2 accounts one having traded for over 250+ vouchers versus one account maybe traded for 30-50 ( being my alt ) I have noticed that when I do runs on My main account I get higher quality loot and I have received many Omen,rare helm NM drops, but when popping on my mule I get Escha weapons or weak armor.
I think this makes a lot of sense being they expected people to try to utilize using many new accounts and expecting great loot.
I am not saying it isn't possible to get loot from these accounts but I feel your chances are far greater on a account that has traded more to the re-claimer.
 Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-11-10 09:52:35  
I don't remember the exact text, but I've gotten both of my omen bodies from characters that did not have any AMAN items traded in, and nothing good from my characters that were thousands deep.

I think that's just some silly reaching, to be honest.
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 Odin.Drakenv
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-11-10 10:00:08  
I Dano. I just go in expecting to die or get ***. Got 5 mil and regal captain gloves on 4 noises and Venus orb. I’ll keep up the assumption of getting ***Or dying.
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By Vanfrano 2018-11-10 10:22:24  
I think it's completely random, I got one body on my main that traded a lot to the AMAN and got four on my two mules that never traded a thing.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2018-11-10 10:28:26  
Snagged a Shamash Robe, Annointed Kalasiris, and a Router on a mule that traded in 0 vouchers.

I like how Drakenv put it though, get ***or die.
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 Ragnarok.Casey
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By Ragnarok.Casey 2018-11-10 15:36:48  
All mars orbs

Loud thud:
tartarus platemail
valorous mail

thud:
Nibiru staff + 5M
Nibiru staff(a second one)
Sifahir Slacks
Levante Dagger
Tunglmyrkvi
Scamp's Sollerets
Scamp's Sollerets(a second one)
Pursuer's cuffs
Ma'iitsoh Haube
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 Odin.Drakenv
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-11-10 16:23:02  
Ragnarok.Casey said: »
All mars orbs

Loud thud:
tartarus platemail
valorous mail

thud:
Nibiru staff + 5M
Nibiru staff(a second one)
Sifahir Slacks
Levante Dagger
Tunglmyrkvi
Scamp's Sollerets
Scamp's Sollerets(a second one)
Pursuer's cuffs
Ma'iitsoh Haube
*** you and congrats! Lol (I just want that platemail) lol
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 Lakshmi.Elidyr
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-11-10 16:33:17  
3 Noise.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-11-10 16:35:08  
Why... would you even consider exiting on a 3 noise? obviously knowing the outcome it was a brilliant move, but?
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-11-10 16:43:18  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Why... would you even consider exiting on a 3 noise? obviously knowing the outcome it was a brilliant move, but?
It was a complete accident HAHAHA: I wouldnt normally. Im like 7/9 on mimics going for loud thuds.

Theres your answer.

Edit: I didnt even know it could drop on just noise lol.
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By DirectX 2018-11-10 17:22:01  
Well that changes everything if no thud can give bodies... if you get 4-5 and no thud might be best to leave still.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-11-10 17:36:09  
I was legit trying to click the back box from the side and hit exit lol.
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By clearlyamule 2018-11-10 18:29:01  
I legit hate you. After like 3 runs where I had all but the mimic give a noise and I still got 0 armor
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2018-11-10 20:21:36  
Jeez eli
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By Bahamut.Newzarb 2018-11-11 04:33:52  
My first really rare item. (Mars orb)

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By DirectX 2018-11-11 10:07:42  
I just did a Venus Orb, opened two chests and then the 3nd chest was the Mimic. When the Mimic spawned the first chest never disappeared, so I clicked on it while I was being beaten and it got a Green name like an NPC. Has anyone seen this before? Not sure if it means anything.
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By Odin.Archaide 2018-11-11 10:13:35  
I won't complain but I really wanted a different body, gave this to my alt whm/geo. Venus orb, 5 chests.

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By Ragnarok.Lockfort 2018-11-11 10:24:04  
Pretty gutsy to keep goin after 2 thuds. Been trying to get a minimum of 2 thud before exiting, but having done dozens of thud and not a single piece worth keeping, I should probably just go big on trying for loud thuds.
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By Odin.Archaide 2018-11-11 11:22:49  
Ragnarok.Lockfort said: »
Pretty gutsy to keep goin after 2 thuds. Been trying to get a minimum of 2 thud before exiting, but having done dozens of thud and not a single piece worth keeping, I should probably just go big on trying for loud thuds.

Yeah same for me from now on, loud thud or bust.
 Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-11-11 12:01:12  
Really hard to draw any conclusions when you see random crap like a 3 noise omen body. I had stopped valuing thuds and only went for loud thuds last month, but now I'm on the fence. Shame we don't have any organized data.
 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-11-11 12:14:15  
I still stand by my original statement that it's identical to logwatch.

Anything can drop regardless how much light(noise) you get, but thuds are like hitting procs.

1; noise 3; thud 5; loud thud, just like logwatch sometimes you simply can't hit the 3's and 5's but can still pull plates/glowies
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-11-11 12:21:53  
There have to be at least 2 variables, since if you get a single loud thud and exit you won't get as much loot as several noises even if it is higher quality.
 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-11-11 12:24:44  
# of items = # of chests

Qualty = Quality of total noise

Every chest, including exit chest = + 1 item (100% of the time if you open 5 > exit > you will get 6 items (on an account that can receive all r/e items etc))

5mil seems to happen randomly, regardless of chests opened/total item count (aka 5m is independent drop)
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-11-11 12:35:23  
Nice to think of it that way, but doesn't really match result. There's a pretty clear correlation between number of noises and number of non-equippable drops. If it was a general quality variable, you would see runs where half of your drops were equippable whenever you got a lot of noises followed by a thud. Generally those cases spit out a bunch of synth mats and one or two armor pieces.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-11-11 12:52:12  
I think Eiryl is on the right track, but perhaps loud thud is more like Abyssesa yellow or blue procs than VW quality+, since loud thud pretty clearly guarantees an item from the possible pool of “high quality” stuff like Omen bodies, glowy Escha/VW stuff, Tartarus, etc. I could see noises beyond loud thud giving an increase in the odds of a chance at that pool though - more like VW lights - but it’s still a very low rate without a loud thud.

# of items = # of chests is definitely correct.
 Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-11-11 13:02:52  
I'm just not seeing any evidence that there's an actual quality variable, it seems more likely that it's as was originally assumed and each thud/noise/loud thud provides an independant roll that adds 1-2 items to pool.

A proc/light system would need to only effect specific slots, or effect slots disproportionately, to match up with runs that have many noises and a thud. In most of those runs, you still see 1-2 pieces of gear per thud/loud thud and 1 piece of crap per noise.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-11-11 13:17:12  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
I'm just not seeing any evidence that there's an actual quality variable, it seems more likely that it's as was originally assumed and each thud/noise/loud thud provides an independant roll that adds 1-2 items to pool.

A proc/light system would need to only effect specific slots, or effect slots disproportionately, to match up with runs that have many noises and a thud. In most of those runs, you still see 1-2 pieces of gear per thud/loud thud and 1 piece of crap per noise.

Honestly all my best drops have been from regular noise. Multiple times being 5m gil. Last month got 5m, three times in a row. Two from noise, once from thud.

That may not be what SE considers quality though, usually a thud/loud thud gets me HTBF/Escha (Multiple times being HELM drop)
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By Ragnarok.Lockfort 2018-11-11 14:59:37  


My 2nd ashera, and can't help but feel slightly annoyed it wasn't shamash, dagon, or even nisroch.
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