Random Politics & Religion #33: Donald John Trump Is The 45th And Current President Of The United States. All Of Your Viewpoints Are Invalid.

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Random Politics & Religion #33: Donald John Trump is the 45th and current President of the United States. All of your viewpoints are invalid.
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By fonewear 2018-06-19 22:44:30  
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If the mission of the UN is to unite nations...when was the last time they actually did that.

All they do is bicker and waste time like FFXIAH.

They've turned into a body with a mission to redistribute wealth on a global scale, while putting money into the pockets of select European aristocrats. Saudi Arabia was the leader of the Human Rights commission... lets all think about that for a moment.

Now lets get rid of NATO and let those countries pay for their own national defense.

I wish we would just nuke NYC I think I"m far enough away from the blast radius...that I could get some pictures of the mushroom cloud...
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By Ruaumoko 2018-06-20 04:29:44  
Trump going ahead with his visit to London is a seriously bad idea.

London is one of the most left-leaning cities in the UK and has no shortage of protestors who would just love to cause mayhem.
 
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By Nausi 2018-06-20 07:18:15  
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If left wing organisations arrange protests, there will be counter protests arranged also. All over some fluffy headed gimp.
Careful bud, they throw people in prison for hate speech over there and you’re sounding pretty hateful today.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 07:55:54  
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Are you against jailing people for hate speech or do you think, for example, that Anjem Choudary should be free to walk the streets?

And he miss's yet again. Anjem wasn't jailed for hate speech but for attempting to incite violence, specifically he was recruiting for ISIS with the stated goal of inciting violence and killing people.

That being said, I'm against any forms of governmental control on speech, period end of story. People have a right endowed by their creator to be ***. They also have a right endowed by that same creator to speak their opinion without fear of retribution or coercion. If some Islamic radical wants to go around preaching hate and death, they should be perfectly free to do so. Trying to restrict that would only lend legitimacy to their rantings. The moment they actually commit or conspire to commit violence, now we have a problem.

And that's what makes American so great, our basic rights aren't given to us by the Government but by a higher power. This makes it extraordinary difficult for that Government to take away those rights. Ignorant fools like to ridicule those precious amendments, without realizing the amendments didn't grant any rights and instead merely outline and explain them. The very foundation of the country secured those rights and it took blood to do it.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 07:59:49  
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Trump going ahead with his visit to London is a seriously bad idea.

London is one of the most left-leaning cities in the UK and has no shortage of protestors who would just love to cause mayhem.

Which is the absolute best reason to do so. What better way to gain popularity among his own supporters then to have lots of video footage of liberal SJW's doing their SJW thing. Then later whenever anyone in the UK Government says anything, at all, they just play back that footage with a "that's what these guys are saying". The left in the USA gives them a standing ovation, which just further reinforces the original goal and cements his own support.
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By fonewear 2018-06-20 08:00:16  
The real problem who gets to define what is hate and what is not hate.

Freedom of speech shouldn't be limited by some *** that is hyper sensitive.
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-06-20 08:49:06  
Ruaumoko said: »
Trump going ahead with his visit to London is a seriously bad idea.

naw...our secret service agents need the work out after dropping the ball by letting Omar J. Gonzalez in the white house with a knife... for those with seriously diminished attention spans

it'll be yuge. Please look forward to it.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 08:50:35  
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And he miss's yet again. Anjem wasn't jailed for hate speech but for attempting to incite violence, specifically he was recruiting for ISIS with the stated goal of inciting violence and killing people.
Have you just made this up on the spot or for you read it on a really reliable, referenced source like Breitbart?

Public records.... do your own google fu for those.

But you won't, it doesn't fit your worldview.
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By fonewear 2018-06-20 08:56:05  
Trump to London
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 08:59:17  
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Arguably people have died as a result of his preaching, none of which specially called for violence or murder.

Does. Not. Matter.


I can use that same argument to justify becoming Neo-Hitler and eradicating anyone from the planet I choose to. Arguing around tertiary effects is a very dangerous thing because you end up playing Six degrees to Keven Bacon. If someone taking a ***in Canada results in a serial killer being created, should we then create overreaching draconian government regulation to protect us from those evil shits? Once you give that kind of power to an evil minded person like myself, we will abuse the *** out of it to reach our own ends. I can successfully argue for the suspension of all civil rights and immediate implementation of martial law, to protect you from those evil ***wielding Canadians.

This isn't a left vs right thing, though in the past few decades the left has overwhelming resorted to these tactics in the support of Communism. Any power, once in complete control, will immediately attempt to protect itself from removal using any means necessary. The people of a nation have no hope to fight within such a system because those who control the system will no longer care about those people. The best thing that could happen is the behemoths being locked in an eternal conflict which prevents either from assuming complete power.
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By fonewear 2018-06-20 08:59:26  
Cream of the crop macho man talking about Trump years ago lol

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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 08:59:40  
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And he miss's yet again. Anjem wasn't jailed for hate speech but for attempting to incite violence, specifically he was recruiting for ISIS with the stated goal of inciting violence and killing people.
Have you just made this up on the spot or for you read it on a really reliable, referenced source like Breitbart?

Public records.... do your own google fu for those.

But you won't, it doesn't fit your worldview.
Still waiting for you to give references specific to your claim rather than rhetoric and empty posts. If you were so cost surely you'd just post them and not rage.

Point proven.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-06-20 09:02:12  
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those evil ***wielding Canadians

they are a menace and they must be stopped
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By fonewear 2018-06-20 09:04:27  
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Arguably people have died as a result of his preaching, none of which specially called for violence or murder.

Does. Not. Matter.


I can use that same argument to justify becoming Neo-Hitler and eradicating anyone from the planet I choose to. Arguing around tertiary effects is a very dangerous thing because you end up playing Six degrees to Keven Bacon. If someone taking a ***in Canada results in a serial killer being created, should we then create overreaching draconian government regulation to protect us from those evil shits? Once you give that kind of power to an evil minded person like myself, we will abuse the *** out of it to reach our own ends. I can successfully argue for the suspension of all civil rights and immediate implementation of martial law, to protect you from those evil ***wielding Canadians.

This isn't a left vs right thing, though in the past few decades the left has overwhelming resorted to these tactics in the support of Communism. Any power, once in complete control, will immediately attempt to protect itself from removal using any means necessary. The people of a nation have no hope to fight within such a system because those who control the system will no longer care about those people. The best thing that could happen is the behemoths being locked in an eternal conflict which prevents either from assuming complete power.

I don't read very well but something about Kevin Bacon being Hitler which I agree with.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-06-20 09:04:46  
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Trump tweets misleading photos suggesting border wall under way
Replacement fencing that was planned well before Trump was even a candidate for office lol.

your link leads back to the top of the page >.>
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By fonewear 2018-06-20 09:07:04  
DirectX said: »
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Trump going ahead with his visit to London is a seriously bad idea.

London is one of the most left-leaning cities in the UK and has no shortage of protestors who would just love to cause mayhem.
M'hm, and the British parliament might try to arrest him on human rights violations and war crimes charges.
Not sure if serious

CJ is currently doing the Buffalo Bill dance while looking at obscene Japanese anime...you should take him serious:

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By fonewear 2018-06-20 09:09:19  
We all know that FFXIAH is the only reference you need. We don't take kindly to outside resources.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-06-20 09:10:38  
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... I'm against any forms of governmental control on speech, period end of story. People have a right endowed by their creator to be ***. They also have a right endowed by that same creator to speak their opinion without fear of retribution or coercion....
But not free from consequences.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-06-20 09:10:55  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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those evil ***wielding Canadians

they are a menace and they must be stopped

They are an absolute menace to society. To prevent another tragic event we are going to enact common sense legislation that will ban all Canadians from entering the USA and further require all those of Canadian descent to wear a Pink Maple Leaf marker on their persons at all time.
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