Anyone know how much stp from gear I would need for the different xhit builds with Sam as SJ?
Not including the STP prom from no drain.
Also curious about how ouch STP I would need in my WS set as well.
Thanks for the help.
XHit STP Build Using Raetic Algol +1 

XHit STP build using Raetic Algol +1
Anyone know how much stp from gear I would need for the different xhit builds with Sam as SJ?
Not including the STP prom from no drain. Also curious about how ouch STP I would need in my WS set as well. Thanks for the help. /SAM is 15 Store TP and the amount needed depends on weapon and WS used.
Asura.Saevel said: » /SAM is 15 Store TP and the amount needed depends on weapon and WS used. Titles says Raetic Algol +1 but guess I should have been more clear in the body of the post. Specifically looking for info around Raetic Algol +1 Wasn't clear, we need to know your Weapon Skill sets to know how much sTP you need.
But if you just want a number, the answer is 42. Raetic +1 xhits are going to depend on how much MP max you have.
42+15 from /Sam or 4215 or 27 from gear + 15 from /sam to get to the 42?
In my WS set, based on that 42 number, how much would I need in my WS set. Just looking for a baseline so I can play around with gear sets to get my optimal set And yes I’m aware of the STP from mana. Just looking for baseline numbers so I know what I need to play with. Also, regarding that STP from mana drain, I know that it applies to the first hit, but does it apply to multiattacks on the first hit as well? Excluding the multi hit from MP drain proc similar to jailer weapons. Just take a moment, it'll come to you.
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Asura.Saevel said: » Wasn't clear, we need to know your Weapon Skill sets to know how much sTP you need. But if you just want a number, the answer is 42. The answer is always 42. Unless the answer is pie. Pie is delicious. go /sam with weapon of same delay hit a mob in tp set to see what tp/hit is. Then disengage and ws set and do the math from there and assume you'll get more tp/hit with raetic under the right conditions. I would do it for you, but I'm at work
Asura.Saevel said: » Just take a moment, it'll come to you. YouTube Video Placeholder Should have known the trolls would show Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Also, regarding that STP from mana drain, I know that it applies to the first hit, but does it apply to multiattacks on the first hit as well? Excluding the multi hit from MP drain proc similar to jailer weapons. Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available.
Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. Fenrir.Kaldaek
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Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » /SAM is 15 Store TP and the amount needed depends on weapon and WS used. Titles says Raetic Algol +1 but guess I should have been more clear in the body of the post. Specifically looking for info around Raetic Algol +1 Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. Would have to side with Saevel just this time. You didn't ask for the equation; you asked for the answer. Fenrir.Kaldaek said: » Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » /SAM is 15 Store TP and the amount needed depends on weapon and WS used. Titles says Raetic Algol +1 but guess I should have been more clear in the body of the post. Specifically looking for info around Raetic Algol +1 Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. Would have to side with Saevel just this time. You didn't ask for the equation; you asked for the answer. Offline
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I'm normally in the "throw sav" under the bus crowd due to his nature but the guy does know his 11 calculations and it's quite impossible to give you a direct answer with so many unknown variables in place to figure it out I.E.(what buffs, what gear, what MP refresh, etc).I had a Raetic Algol +1 and that weapon is a beast if you have the proper checks for it to be used.
I have been playing 14 lately (FOR THE STORY) and the idiocy of people on that game who can't be bothered with simple DPS checks is astounding. I would imagine the factors would be compounded immensely if they had to do the math required on this game without copying someone else who has posted their gear sets. I would advise anyone who is lazy and/or incompetent to do their calculations to actually be more precise in their descriptions and think through a bit more about what answers they want. Chriscoffey said: » I'm normally in the "throw sav" under the bus crowd due to his nature but the guy does know his 11 calculations and it's quite impossible to give you a direct answer with so many unknown variables in place to figure it out I.E.(what buffs, what gear, what MP refresh, etc).I had a Raetic Algol +1 and that weapon is a beast if you have the proper checks for it to be used. I have been playing 14 lately (FOR THE STORY) and the idiocy of people on that game who can't be bothered with simple DPS checks is astounding. I would imagine the factors would be compounded immensely if they had to do the math required on this game without copying someone else who has posted their gear sets. I would advise anyone who is lazy and/or incompetent to do their calculations to actually be more precise in their descriptions and think through a bit more about what answers they want. Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. It's almost like wiki's and umpteen job forum threads nor even google don't exist. Asura.Saevel said: » Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. It's almost like wiki's and umpteen job forum threads nor even google don't exist. Candlejack said: » Odin.Drakenv said: » Chriscoffey said: » I'm normally in the "throw sav" under the bus crowd due to his nature but the guy does know his 11 calculations and it's quite impossible to give you a direct answer with so many unknown variables in place to figure it out I.E.(what buffs, what gear, what MP refresh, etc).I had a Raetic Algol +1 and that weapon is a beast if you have the proper checks for it to be used. I have been playing 14 lately (FOR THE STORY) and the idiocy of people on that game who can't be bothered with simple DPS checks is astounding. I would imagine the factors would be compounded immensely if they had to do the math required on this game without copying someone else who has posted their gear sets. I would advise anyone who is lazy and/or incompetent to do their calculations to actually be more precise in their descriptions and think through a bit more about what answers they want. Lol Fenrir.Cherrywine
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Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Anyone know how much stp from gear I would need for the different xhit builds with Sam as SJ? The answer to this question is, "Yes." Just "Yes" is the most complete answer. And then this gem: Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Also curious about how ouch STP I would need in my WS set as well. Much ouch. As much ouch as you can handle. But, seriously, holy smokes people, isn't it obvious? The OP wants to know how much STP he needs for every possible Xhit while he is a completely naked (except for Raetic Algol +1) WAR/SAM. This is because omgwtfbbq the weapon is all that matters! So he spent all his gil on the weapon first and has no gear to support it. No need to worry about buffs, he has none. I don't think Trusts would even party with a naked WAR. Well... Trion, Mayakov, Balamor and Zeid (Never again, I'm sure!) might, but they don't provide buffs. The follow up question shows he is saving up for gear, and wants to know how much STP he should look to buy to move up the Xhit ladder. Anyone hate themselves enough to start with small purchases, like 1 STP from Brutal? And then gradually work to add the gears with ranges of 2+ STP? This isn't too much to ask is it? It isn't like there are resources out there with this information, after all! Fenrir.Cherrywine said: » Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Anyone know how much stp from gear I would need for the different xhit builds with Sam as SJ? The answer to this question is, "Yes." Just "Yes" is the most complete answer. And then this gem: Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Also curious about how ouch STP I would need in my WS set as well. Much ouch. As much ouch as you can handle. But, seriously, holy smokes people, isn't it obvious? The OP wants to know how much STP he needs for every possible Xhit while he is a completely naked (except for Raetic Algol +1) WAR/SAM. This is because omgwtfbbq the weapon is all that matters! So he spent all his gil on the weapon first and has no gear to support it. No need to worry about buffs, he has none. I don't think Trusts would even party with a naked WAR. Well... Trion, Mayakov, Balamor and Zeid (Never again, I'm sure!) might, but they don't provide buffs. The follow up question shows he is saving up for gear, and wants to know how much STP he should look to buy to move up the Xhit ladder. Anyone hate themselves enough to start with small purchases, like 1 STP from Brutal? And then gradually work to add the gears with ranges of 2+ STP? This isn't too much to ask is it? It isn't like there are resources out there with this information, after all! Candlejack said: » Odin.Drakenv said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Lakshmi.Cortez said: » Asura.Saevel said: » Or you could learn how to calculate out Store TP for various weapons. Not someone went out of their way to make all that information readily available. You could link the formula or type it out instead of purposefully trying to prove you have the biggest epeen. I’m happy to do the math myself :) Would have been much less effort on your part as well. It's almost like wiki's and umpteen job forum threads nor even google don't exist. YouTube Video Placeholder YouTube Video Placeholder


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