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 Asura.Snapster
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By Asura.Snapster 2019-01-17 17:33:24  
Namas is 40% STR 40% AGI, so switching from 30 AGI to 30 STR won't gain you any WSC although it will gain you fSTR2. It's more than 2 fSTR, closer to 7~8, and more ranged attack. You do lose some ranged accuracy although I don't think this is ever an issue. My 1 hit WS accuracy far exceeds my TP phase accuracy.
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By Asura.Yoshimuru 2019-01-30 13:32:26  
Looking for BiS Coronach Set, any suggestions?
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By Foxfire 2019-01-30 14:29:17  
First page is still viable, only difference is jse neck and relic legs, AFAIK.
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By kunami 2019-01-30 17:46:55  
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Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?
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By Valarwyn 2019-02-02 09:21:56  
Has anyone used Gyve gear in a trueflight set (legs or body). Magic attack bonus looks really good, but other stats not so much. Is the MAB boost worth it?
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By Asura.Zanosan 2019-02-02 10:06:19  
They're terrible
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By Taint 2019-02-02 11:01:30  
kunami said: »
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Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

Epa and Karieyh Ring +1 are typically BiS. The assumption is acc is capped. There are instances of epa’s -stp limiting its effectiveness but that obviously wouldn’t be the case with Coro.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2019-02-02 11:46:53  
Taint said: »
kunami said: »
ItemSet 364822

Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

Epa and Karieyh Ring +1 are typically BiS. The assumption is acc is capped. There are instances of epa’s -stp limiting its effectiveness but that obviously wouldn’t be the case with Coro.

I'd say Ilabrat would be behind Dingir ring as well unless you're going for the STP
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By kunami 2019-02-02 12:59:09  
Figured the 10 DEX and 10 AGI would be better than the 25 rattk in a buffed situation, but agree Karieyh is better than both.
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By Valarwyn 2019-02-02 13:48:10  
The Gyve legs give 40 MAB, the best I could get so far on my herc pants is 33. I was thinking if I used the legs for MAB, then I could use my Fotia gear instead of Eschan stone or Bayetl pendant for Trueflight. Please provide your reasoning for the "terrible" response.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-02-02 13:50:06  
Valarwyn said: »
The Gyve legs give 40 MAB, the best I could get so far on my herc pants is 33. I was thinking if I used the legs for MAB, then I could use my Fotia gear instead of Eschan stone or Bayetl pendant for Trueflight. Please provide your reasoning for the "terrible" response.


base agi on Gyve trousers: +5
base agi on a pair of Herc trousers: +32.


It really isn't more complex than that.
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By Asura.Zanosan 2019-02-03 02:51:55  
not to mention you can get WSD on herc pants which we've discussed is about ~1:3 with MAB depending on your MAB levels. But the real game changer is of course the 27 AGI difference on a 100% AGI mod WS
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2019-02-04 20:50:39  
Valarwyn said: »
The Gyve legs give 40 MAB, the best I could get so far on my herc pants is 33. I was thinking if I used the legs for MAB, then I could use my Fotia gear instead of Eschan stone or Bayetl pendant for Trueflight. Please provide your reasoning for the "terrible" response.

Your answer with reasoning was also already on page 2.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2019-02-04 20:56:40  
Also Orpheus sash and obi are both better than eschan stone if their conditions are met.

If you find you are getting resists on TF, sanctity necklace is a good alternative to baetyl
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By Cronnus 2019-02-10 20:36:22  
kunami said: »
ItemSet 364822

Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

I've seen a lot using those weapons. But why not a 2nd vamp? That's what I've been using for another 25 str.
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By Asura.Zanosan 2019-02-10 20:39:41  
Cronnus said: »
kunami said: »
ItemSet 364822

Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

I've seen a lot using those weapons. But why not a 2nd vamp? That's what I've been using for another 25 str.

Odium is the better weapon here. The 13 STR DEX and AGI all count towards Coronach damage as DEX and AGI are mods and fSTR2 for ranged attacks.
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By Cronnus 2019-02-11 05:26:48  
Asura.Zanosan said: »
Cronnus said: »
kunami said: »
ItemSet 364822

Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

I've seen a lot using those weapons. But why not a 2nd vamp? That's what I've been using for another 25 str.

Odium is the better weapon here. The 13 STR DEX and AGI all count towards Coronach damage as DEX and AGI are mods and fSTR2 for ranged attacks.

I'm glad I asked. Thank you, zano!
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By Valarwyn 2022-01-10 10:57:12  
Does anyone have suggestions on a post-Odyssey Last Stand set? Here is my current iteration; comments are appreciated. Getting ready for Arrebati fight.



Perun +1
Nusku Shield
Fomalhaut
Chrono Bullet
Orion +3
Scout's Gorget
Ishvara Earring
Moonshade AttTP
NyameB body
NyameB hands
Dingir Ring
Regal Ring
Belenus's AGI/WSD
Fotia Belt
Arcadian +3 legs
NyameB feet
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2022-01-10 11:22:10  
LS only, I think it's Ikenga body (augmented) and Meghanada gloves.

Other things would be Agi cape, Epam over Dingir. I think everything else looks fine.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-01-10 11:28:13  
Someone can optimize probably with sim or spreadsheet or something but something similar to this:

Last Stand, Not Attack Capped Last Stand, Attack Capped
ItemSet 383156 ItemSet 383157

Ikenga/Nyame R20, Nyame Body if @3000 tp
Rings: Karieyh ring +1,Epaminondas's ring
Ears: Consider Beyla earring for -Enmity

Ikenga/Nyame R20
Rings: Same as other set
Ears:


Ikenga is potentially powerful due to the the 2-hit nature of Last Stand, but i'm not sure how much Head and Feet are really beneficial due to them having lower amounts of PDL.

This all changes tomorrow when everything goes to R25
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By Valarwyn 2022-01-10 11:35:46  
Thank You! I do not think I am attack capped on Arrebati so I went for the Nyame instead of Ikenga body (not augmented yet ; ;).
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By Asura.Mims 2022-01-12 12:12:36  
Cronnus said: »
Asura.Zanosan said: »
Cronnus said: »
kunami said: »
ItemSet 364822

Is epami ring better than Ilabrat?

I've seen a lot using those weapons. But why not a 2nd vamp? That's what I've been using for another 25 str.

Odium is the better weapon here. The 13 STR DEX and AGI all count towards Coronach damage as DEX and AGI are mods and fSTR2 for ranged attacks.

I'm glad I asked. Thank you, zano!

I keep seeing people say Odium > Ternion +1, and it still doesn't make sense to me.
Yes Odium has 13 STR 13DEX and 13 AGI, but Ternion also has 10-15 AGI from it's Unity bonus. STR isn't a mod on Coronach, so it comes down to 13 DEX versus 5% WSD, and that seems like a silly comparison on a single hit WS.
If this was a dagger WS where base weapon damage was so small compared to the stat bonus portion that would be one thing, but we are talking about 155+300 base damage just off gun and bullets.

Is there something else going on here? Because I just can't see how 13 DEX beats 5% WSD for Coronach.

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That was 3 years ago, That was probably R0 Ternion compared to the R15 Ternion we have access to now. Outdated info is outdated.
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By SimonSes 2022-01-12 12:18:07  
Asura.Mims said: »
Is there something else going on here?

Well fstr2 obviously. STR is not a mod for Coronach, but it usually still adds more base damage from fstr2, than DEX or AGI adds from being 40% WSC.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-01-12 12:18:12  
Asura.Mims said: »
Is there something else going on here? Because I just can't see how 13 DEX beats 5% WSD for Coronach.
the stuff you quoted was before unity augments for one thing.

and STR does more for coro than either of it's mods until you cap fSTR, which for augmented annihilator is 96 STR more than a mob's VIT.
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