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 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 11:47:15  
Ugh, here comes another argument on economics. Seriously, you can find a graph or metric or whatever to back up any opinion on any economic event. The New Deal saved the world. The New Deal hurt the poor and middle class. The New Deal did practically nothing. The New Deal increased the crocodile population in Bumpkinville, Florida by 3%.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 11:47:47  
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why the years where the New Deal policies predominated were so prosperous, where as the years dominated by trickle down models (Mellon 20's, Reagan 80's, Bush 00's) have been characterized by financial instability.

world war two... is what actually brought prosperity to the us

the early years of the new deal were also called the great depression and the 37-38 recession within the depression

37and38 recession

I could buy that argument that the Recession of 37-38 is solely due to end of New Deal spending or that things like the FDIC, FCIC, FHA, SSS and SEC don't provide stability and prosperity for Americans and it was all due to winning WWII... but I won't,

well your opinion counts for exactly.... <calculator noises>

DIDDLY SQUAT!!!
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:49:03  
Aren't you forgetting the Art of the Deal by Donald J Trump ?
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:50:42  
1 Think big
2 Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself
3 Maximize your options
4 Know your market
5 Use your leverage
6 Enhance your location
7 Get the word out
8 Fight back
9 Deliver the goods
10 Contain the costs
11 Have fun

11 especially you guys are forgetting to have fun !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 11:52:33  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ugh, here comes another argument on economics. Seriously, you can find a graph or metric or whatever to back up any opinion on any economic event. The New Deal saved the world. The New Deal hurt the poor and middle class. The New Deal did practically nothing. The New Deal increased the crocodile population in Bumpkinville, Florida by 3%.

Or we could refer to the handy dandy lists of Recessions in US history and conclude:

Recessions come in. Recessions go out. You can't explain that!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 11:55:43  
I used my leverage to go from internet nobody...to real life nobody !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 11:56:51  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
why the years where the New Deal policies predominated were so prosperous, where as the years dominated by trickle down models (Mellon 20's, Reagan 80's, Bush 00's) have been characterized by financial instability.

world war two... is what actually brought prosperity to the us

the early years of the new deal were also called the great depression and the 37-38 recession within the depression

37and38 recession

I could buy that argument that the Recession of 37-38 is solely due to end of New Deal spending or that things like the FDIC, FCIC, FHA, SSS and SEC don't provide stability and prosperity for Americans and it was all due to winning WWII... but I won't,

well your opinion counts for exactly.... <calculator noises>

DIDDLY SQUAT!!!

There is an error in your calculations you forgot to carry the remainder of "Bo".

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-27 11:59:46  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ugh, here comes another argument on economics. Seriously, you can find a graph or metric or whatever to back up any opinion on any economic event. The New Deal saved the world. The New Deal hurt the poor and middle class. The New Deal did practically nothing. The New Deal increased the crocodile population in Bumpkinville, Florida by 3%.

Or we could refer to the handy dandy lists of Recessions in US history and conclude:

Recessions come in. Recessions go out. You can't explain that!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

Yes, well your simple handy dandy charts do not take into account all aspects of economic impact and all of the factors that led to the recessions. Correlation and causation are not the same thing, hence my comment above. It's also the reason why you can have highly educated economists disagreeing with each other on the exact same data. Nothing's as cut and dry as 12 seconds of research on Wikipedia might lead you to believe.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 11:59:47  
Tbe new deal which was from 1933-1938 during which time we had three recessions and one great depression

From your own link
1833–34 recession
1836–1838 recession
and the late 1839–late 1843 recession

BUT 1935 WAS AWESOME SO THE NEW DEAL KILLED LIKE A CHAMPION!!!

No. The new deal sucked and you should feel bad for trying to rewrite history.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:04:47  
Autism intensifies:
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 Asura.Kingnobody
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 12:05:47  
Obviously he was vaccinated.

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 12:06:39  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Tbe new deal which was from 1933-1938 during which time we had three recessions and one great depression

From your own link
1833–34 recession
1836–1838 recession
and the late 1839–late 1843 recession

BUT 1935 WAS AWESOME SO THE NEW DEAL KILLED LIKE A CHAMPION!!!

No. The new deal sucked and you should feel bad for trying to rewrite history.

Heaven forbid you collect Social Security, or partake in any form of secured banking.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:07:54  
Back in my day we didn't have social security Grandma gave us a nickel for candy !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 12:09:35  
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Back in my day we didn't have social security Grandma gave us a nickel for candy !
Was that before or after she touched you in no-no spot?
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:11:22  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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Back in my day we didn't have social security Grandma gave us a nickel for candy !
Was that before or after she touched you in no-no spot?

I don't remember the candy was too good !
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:12:52  
Autism is on the rise that is how Hillary got the popular vote...the Autism vote is a big deal.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 12:13:14  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Tbe new deal which was from 1933-1938 during which time we had three recessions and one great depression

From your own link
1833–34 recession
1836–1838 recession
and the late 1839–late 1843 recession

BUT 1935 WAS AWESOME SO THE NEW DEAL KILLED LIKE A CHAMPION!!!

No. The new deal sucked and you should feel bad for trying to rewrite history.

Heaven forbid you collect Social Security, or partake in any form of secured banking.

really dude?!?

social security sucks homeless junkie *** in a new jersey toll booth just to make the rent....

and secured banking!? have you heard about 2008? because they called and they're on hold right now waiting to tell you that your are full of ***!

that crippled son of a *** (Franklin D. Roosevelt) put us on a path to economic ruin.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-27 12:15:51  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
social security sucks homeless junkie *** in a new jersey toll booth just to make the rent....
To be honest, Social Security needs to be replaced with an actual, privatized retirement plan that is 100% controlled by the planholder.

Kindof like an IRA, except the taxes withheld goes straight to that account.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:15:52  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
fonewear said: »
Back in my day we didn't have social security Grandma gave us a nickel for candy !
Was that before or after she touched you in no-no spot?
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:17:07  
That sum *** Trump is going to kill us all...wait North Korea has the bomb never mind...
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:18:08  
Sumbitches at FFXIAH:
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 12:18:32  
the new deal... /scoff

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-27 12:20:46  
fonewear said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
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Back in my day we didn't have social security Grandma gave us a nickel for candy !
Was that before or after she touched you in no-no spot?
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You did ask to have a sip of my tasty bev-er-age and if Marcellus Wallace looked like a ***.

The answer to both: Yes.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:23:45  
You jolly *** !

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By Nausi 2017-04-27 12:26:41  
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Uh oh, Trump's approval rate is starting to rise!

<insert The Economic Denier's denial of polls ever meaning much>

It's still the lowest approval rate for a president within his first quarter. So I'm not sure what you are trying to brag about.
From the same pollsters who were super duper positive he had no chance to win.
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By fonewear 2017-04-27 12:26:59  
Democrats are trying to bail out insurance companies from disastrous #ObamaCare, and Puerto Rico with your tax dollars. Sad!
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 12:28:11  
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That would be "taxes go down economic activity goes up". Which is the thing that's taxed

It's pretty hard to argue against that.
How are you defining economic activity?
Are you suggesting that letting people keep more of what they create wouldn't lead to its exchange for goods in WH economy?
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By Nausi 2017-04-27 12:31:01  
WH = "the"
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-04-27 12:31:21  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The New Deal increased the crocodile population in Bumpkinville, Florida by 3%.

As you can see from this graph



The crocodile population remained relatively stagnant until a steady increase began between the years of 1981 and 1989. Reaganomics did more for American Crocodiles than that progressive hack and his New Deal ever could.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-27 12:36:10  
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Social Security needs to be replaced

If, and god forbid anyone you know actually had to live on SSI, because it's one of the cruelest jokes going... espaecially after they deduct medicare part b out of it. sonsofbitches

I help out this one old immigrant lady from our church, who after working, shitty, minimum wage jobs for forty years and losing her husband and only daughter...she gets like $400 a month...which is a real kick in the she balls for her.

And SSI is all...Well... we sure hope she likes the taste of PRIDE because she is going to have to swallow every ounce she ever had and go apply for food stamps!! Hahaha! NEXT!!!!
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