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Josiahkf said: » Odin.Taffy said: » Still wondering if the microcosmic orb event will be dropping AF upgrade job cards or if someone is just not articulating that it will in fact be empy seals again? The anticipation is killing me! I think someone made a pretty major typo and we can expect lots of I seals.... Lakshmi.Buukki said: » So now I'll have more bosses to comb through for the next few months.... Took my SP months to finally get everything from Fu (necks, rings, and glassy items). Now on Kin, and they're adding new bosses. Sheesh. Fun I guess, but certainly feel overwhelmed. I still have an minor issue with that 20hr respawn on the canteen. Would be neat if they added Boss KI (clears) that gave you a percent decrease on canteen accumulation. If they add 3 bosses, would be 8 total. 8 KIs, 1 hour for possessing each KI. Means you could get 2-4 Canteens in a day, assuming you store one and maybe get lucky with portent floor. Then you could go later in the day when the canteen is up again. Knowing SE, they will milk Omen as long as possible. Can't complain and say SE isn't giving us new content. Ambuscade is spammable daily with only a few limitations. Would be nice if they opened up Omen a bit. Got like 7 jobs to card farm lol >< Currently, the only way to increase your canteen count is to get it from bonus chests on floor 3 or 5. Killing everything on every floor (for omens) seems to play an important role on chest spawns. I wouldn't be surprised if there's always 1 chest with the KI in it, however you're look at 1/18 to 1/6? (are there 18?) chances (depending on allowed # of openings) to get another. We've had several "extra" runs from these. One time, we got it three times back to back.... Odin.Taffy said: » Still wondering if the microcosmic orb event will be dropping AF upgrade job cards or if someone is just not articulating that it will in fact be empy seals again? Running the jp announcement thru google translate still produces card while still saying seal for the actual bc seals
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Quote: Microcosmic Orb Campaign Vanquishing certain monsters in the following battlefields will occasionally reward players with job cards and a variety of other items. Bolded the operative word in this explanation. Knowing SE, "occasionally" will be about as common as a Ganesha's Mala from VW Vinipata -_- Quote: Currently, the only way to increase your canteen count is to get it from bonus chests on floor 3 or 5. Killing everything on every floor (for omens) seems to play an important role on chest spawns. I wouldn't be surprised if there's always 1 chest with the KI in it, however you're look at 1/18 to 1/6? (are there 18?) chances (depending on allowed # of openings) to get another. We've had several "extra" runs from these. One time, we got it three times back to back.... And you would be very lucky. More often than not, on 2/3 pick treasure floors, its ALMOST ALWAYS 2300 gil or so. I've gotten an extra KI once in 60+ runs. Seriously, why is gil a reward still? Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Seriously, why is gil a reward still? To help cover the costs of using Waypoints around town.
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We're gonna cap Jobs cards using micromasmic orb VD on march campaing!!!
Did anyone ever do a statistical test of mid-boss appearance rate to see if they are truly evenly distributed? My last ~15 runs haven't had a single gorger, which is an extremely low chance if it is even.
Odin.Geriond said: » Did anyone ever do a statistical test of mid-boss appearance rate to see if they are truly evenly distributed? My last ~15 runs haven't had a single gorger, which is an extremely low chance if it is even.
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Have not mapped or parsed any encounter rate data. But I can give personal anecdotal testimony.
Pre-update: All we ever got was Gorgers, handful of Thinkers, literally 2 Cravers. Post update: Craver more common, Gorgers below average pop, Thinkers nearly 3/4 of the time (not an exaggeration) Not very fact-based, and I'm sure for every claim of the pop % of one NM, someone else will disprove that with another claim. But my personal experience has been that Thinker is the more common NM with Craver right behind it. Maybe I'm delusional because of what drops I still need, though. I'll say this, Craver dropping Nusku and Gorger dropping Kishar IS A MYTH. I've found that I tend to get the midboss I want if I lean back slightly and raise my left foot off the ground before teleporting up to the 3rd floor. Please try it and post your results.
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I have both Kishar and Nusku - definitely not a myth xD
We have seen pretty even distribution pre update but yet to see any craver post update. About even between thinker / gorger. I had never seen a chest floor pre update - 3 post update. Pretty sure it's just the RNGesus fooking with our heads. Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Have not mapped or parsed any encounter rate data. But I can give personal anecdotal testimony. Pre-update: All we ever got was Gorgers, handful of Thinkers, literally 2 Cravers. Post update: Craver more common, Gorgers below average pop, Thinkers nearly 3/4 of the time (not an exaggeration) Not very fact-based, and I'm sure for every claim of the pop % of one NM, someone else will disprove that with another claim. But my personal experience has been that Thinker is the more common NM with Craver right behind it. Maybe I'm delusional because of what drops I still need, though. I'll say this, Craver dropping Nusku and Gorger dropping Kishar IS A MYTH. Suckless then they all will drop! jk hay bookkie. To add onto this, ever since the update, my group has only run into 2 thinker's and a split between craver/gorger and we've used every KI since. Since our group has almost capped on getting mid boss drops, and the only thing I be wanting are thought crystals, SE be like oh since you want that, we'll make it spawn less! Thats my experience anyways.
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Odin.Taffy said: » I have both Kishar and Nusku - definitely not a myth xD Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier?
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Quote: March Omen ・Increase the limit of maximum number of participants ・Increase the stackable amount for key items Well this is intresting. Omen becoming 18 man? and more like abyssea The KI you can get increase from 1 to 2, meaning you can do 3 runs in a row now.
Increasing the number of participants is gonna be cool for cards farming, but don't forget objectives numbers do scale with number of people as well. Knowing SE, the number of drop slots on bosses won't increase, making it annoying to farm items, but at least it's an option for people who want to bring players with worse gear, mules etc
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On our static runs Mid and endbosses usually don't drop anything anymore but scale, crafting mats and the occasional BST items ppl toss.
Asura.Sechs said: » The KI you can get increase from 1 to 2, meaning you can do 3 runs in a row now. Not quite what I was envisioning but MAMA WE MADE IT Lakshmi.Buukki said: » I still have an minor issue with that 20hr respawn on the canteen. Would be neat if they added Boss KI (clears) that gave you a percent decrease on canteen accumulation. If they add 3 bosses, would be 8 total. 8 KIs, 1 hour for possessing each KI. Means you could get 2-4 Canteens in a day, assuming you store one and maybe get lucky with portent floor. Then you could go later in the day when the canteen is up again. Bahamut.Tychefm said: » On our static runs Mid and endbosses usually don't drop anything anymore but scale, crafting mats and the occasional BST items ppl toss. Yeah, I've been pugging 1-2 members a night and they basically get all the loot that drops. Brought in someones alt and they got all the Gin gear that dropped. Sylph.Shadowlina said: » Quote: March Omen ・Increase the limit of maximum number of participants ・Increase the stackable amount for key items Well this is intresting. Omen becoming 18 man? and more like abyssea Does this mean you may be able to form an alliance while inside ReisenjimaHeige? Split drops across multiple boss runs? I think 18 man runs will be absurd trying to get any cards.
Mini objectives will become nearly impossible to complete. 1. Make 54 Physical Weaponskills 2. Make 36 skillchains 3. Complete 54 Critical Hits 4. Heal 500 hp 30 times Heal 500 HP doesn't change with number of people (making it annoying to complete solo).
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: » I think 18 man runs will be absurd trying to get any cards. Mini objectives will become nearly impossible to complete. 1. Make 54 Physical Weaponskills 2. Make 36 skillchains 3. Complete 54 Critical Hits 4. Heal 500 hp 30 times 54 weaponskills should be insanely easy to do if you're using weak stuff like fast blade. 18 people means each person only needs to ws 3x. Not sure where you're getting 36 skillchains from. Its normally 6, so 6 x3 (assuming its tripled for each group of 6) is only 18 skillchains. That's still annoyingly irritating, but we don't particularly know if that will scale the same way you posted. So Gin is easy with a PUP 100JP, but looking to try new cats sometime soon. For Kyou, I hear people just let their tank die? For a PUP style strat, my thought was to have the puppet be sac'd but have the Puppet Master toss in flashes while the puppet is tanking and then pop new puppet after the 10k move and then ventriloquy to make the puppet the hate leader again. Do any groups stack for the 10k move and is it feasible?
Our group stacks everyone in front of Kyou every 25% to split the damage so nobody dies. Some groups sac their tank but it's not necessary. 6 people + Luopan we have never been in danger of getting one shot, just make sure curaga is ready and you should be fine.
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Phoenix.Brixy said: » Our group stacks everyone in front of Kyou every 25% to split the damage so nobody dies. Some groups sac their tank but it's not necessary. 6 people + Luopan we have never been in danger of getting one shot, just make sure curaga is ready and you should be fine. Thanks, my only fear with stacking was that it may do Meteor immediately afterwards, but that's not insta cast or anything right? Lastly, do you need to do any loupan positioning to get it in the front of the conal attack or on top of it is fine? Thanks! Caitsith.Mahayaya said: » Phoenix.Brixy said: » Our group stacks everyone in front of Kyou every 25% to split the damage so nobody dies. Some groups sac their tank but it's not necessary. 6 people + Luopan we have never been in danger of getting one shot, just make sure curaga is ready and you should be fine. Thanks, my only fear with stacking was that it may do Meteor immediately afterwards, but that's not insta cast or anything right? Lastly, do you need to do any loupan positioning to get it in the front of the conal attack or on top of it is fine? Thanks! Yeah make sure your GEO casts from the front of Kyou and that should line it up just fine. It does start spamming things at <25%, and it will sometimes use Meteor or Interference near Unfaltering Bravado. It's a good idea to have DD turn and wait for a 'safe' JA (and also make sure nobody gets hit w/ curse) before pushing it's HP beyond the threshhold. Better safe than sorry.
Worse case scenario: yesterday it did Meteor > Interference > Unfaltering Bravado within a 5 sec window to us... that wasn't cool. Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: » I think 18 man runs will be absurd trying to get any cards. Mini objectives will become nearly impossible to complete. 1. Make 54 Physical Weaponskills 2. Make 36 skillchains 3. Complete 54 Critical Hits 4. Heal 500 hp 30 times 54 weaponskills should be insanely easy to do if you're using weak stuff like fast blade. 18 people means each person only needs to ws 3x. Not sure where you're getting 36 skillchains from. Its normally 6, so 6 x3 (assuming its tripled for each group of 6) is only 18 skillchains. That's still annoyingly irritating, but we don't particularly know if that will scale the same way you posted. You don't have enough mobs 18 ppl are probably 1/2 ~ 2/3 pug coordination would be poor backline jobs won't be doing Weaponskills. |
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