Omen Findings
Omen Findings
Anyone been able to do the skillchains? when we enter and get the "perform XX skillchains" we tried with SC and with melee doing WSs but nothing, at best we get 1 and that's it, is this bugged?
It is a consecutive skillchain just like Vagary. Not sure why they designed it like that.
cant be the same SC has to be 6 different ones
The problem in doing this secondary objective is that you need to use a non-ilvl weapon / really bad weapon skills (so you end up with terrible accuracy on top of it) or else the target just ends up dying.
Alternatively, you could try out doing 6 step with non magic damage gear as sch, however I'm not sure if it was designed specifically to be with actual weapon skills.
Alternatively, you could try out doing 6 step with non magic damage gear as sch, however I'm not sure if it was designed specifically to be with actual weapon skills.
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most use transended for these and low dmg ws, obviously you arent running fury/frailty either
Fenrir.Jumeya said: »
Alternatively, you could try out doing 6 step with non magic damage gear as sch, however I'm not sure if it was designed specifically to be with actual weapon skills.
We've been getting it cleared with RNG/DNC and BRD/DNC alternating Aeolian Edge on a Transcended mob utilizing Merc Kris, Atoyac, and Carn. Super charge them with Acc. songs and Precision and go to town. We do this to do the MB trials as well, multiple objectives are capable of getting cleared in this manner so it's been rather convenient.
I understand, to some extent, why pet and SCH skillchains were excluded. I don't, however, understand why pet MB and nuke don't count. It isn't exactly easy to hit a 30k MB or 15k nuke with a pet no matter what the circumstance. Any two *** with mandragora wearing full ambu gear can figure out how to 6-step, but the nuking stuff falls into the same category as people who can hit 30k WS imo. It's dumb that they don't count it, especially considering they have objectives like "cast 3 spells per real person in your party".
Edit: We also never try the MB objective. Usually at least 1 if not 2 of the mages we run with are two-boxed and it just becomes an incredible waste of time to try 18 mbs. I'm not even sure we'd try it with 6 real people. Does magic bursting enfeebles count? Remembering to unequip your main and sub slots and lock them before MBing is such a pain in the ***.
Edit: We also never try the MB objective. Usually at least 1 if not 2 of the mages we run with are two-boxed and it just becomes an incredible waste of time to try 18 mbs. I'm not even sure we'd try it with 6 real people. Does magic bursting enfeebles count? Remembering to unequip your main and sub slots and lock them before MBing is such a pain in the ***.
Fenrir.Sathicus said: »
Does magic bursting enfeebles count? Remembering to unequip your main and sub slots and lock them before MBing is such a pain in the ***.
No, has to do damage. I imagine Dia and Bio would work though, so if you could do Transfixion > Compression > Transfixion (can with Scythe) you could alternate those.
Dia/Bio do work, yeah. I just went ahead and made a separate mode for naked bursts 'cause I usually don't see Transfixion <> Compression unless I make it on DRG and actual nukes are way too strong.
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We do both SCs and bursts all the time.
Burning Blade - Flat Blade is Fusion the mages burst with Dia x2 each. Otherwise can just do Sereph Blade to Burning Blade for scission to liquifaction and back again. Don't need weak weapons, just grab the transcended and focus on doing those weak SC's.
Burning Blade - Flat Blade is Fusion the mages burst with Dia x2 each. Otherwise can just do Sereph Blade to Burning Blade for scission to liquifaction and back again. Don't need weak weapons, just grab the transcended and focus on doing those weak SC's.
I heard you guys like Omen drops:
Glassy Thinker into bonus floor into 3 chests.
... and to balance our Karma, Kei gave us 4 scales in 2 runs.
Glassy Thinker into bonus floor into 3 chests.
... and to balance our Karma, Kei gave us 4 scales in 2 runs.
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2 months spamming this and I havent seen ammo yet... its one of the main things I wanted from Omen too for my drk lol.
Our group just has me do Jinpu forever and our WHM just bursts off of that. I use Soboro and go to work,only time it is a problem if the transcended likes to stun,takes tp or that pesky amnesia if you get mantis's.
Leviathan.Nitenichi said: »
or that pesky amnesia if you get mantis's.
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Leviathan.Nitenichi said: »
or that pesky amnesia if you get mantis's.
We learned our lesson after the first two runs. (yes, we're sometimes that slow lol)
Just like I recently learned not to try and lullaby those lovely frogs! XD
Question about Fu, BG-wiki says
"Potentially used to counter an offending buff"
The hell is an offending buff?
Also how does the Ebullient Nullification thing on pull work? Doesn't happen all of the time.
I guess to be 100% you could have the tank drop and pull while outside party, but other than this "trick" to cheat mechanics, what is the supposed "normal" way to behave to make so he doesn't use Ebullient Nullification on pull?
"Potentially used to counter an offending buff"
The hell is an offending buff?
Also how does the Ebullient Nullification thing on pull work? Doesn't happen all of the time.
I guess to be 100% you could have the tank drop and pull while outside party, but other than this "trick" to cheat mechanics, what is the supposed "normal" way to behave to make so he doesn't use Ebullient Nullification on pull?
Maybe if 0 buffs up he doesnt do it on pull but why not have him do it? he takes absurd dmg after.
I dunno, I've only done Fu three times.
Twice with SMN setup, once with melee setup (with one SMN).
I was just a guest in those groups, and Ebullient Nullification never happened on pull.
I didn't even know it could, so like I noob I brought my friends to do Fu because we were bored of always doing the same bosses with our setup, and what happened is that when the tank pulled he did a draw in and Ebullient Nullification, and of course it was a Game Over from that point onwards.
So was kinda wondering how it works exactely, of course next time we'll just have the tank pull from outside the pt, but I was wondering if there is a less cheat-like method :x
Note: the Intimidation Rate he gains doesn't reset even if you wipe and let him regen to 100% hp.
Twice with SMN setup, once with melee setup (with one SMN).
I was just a guest in those groups, and Ebullient Nullification never happened on pull.
I didn't even know it could, so like I noob I brought my friends to do Fu because we were bored of always doing the same bosses with our setup, and what happened is that when the tank pulled he did a draw in and Ebullient Nullification, and of course it was a Game Over from that point onwards.
So was kinda wondering how it works exactely, of course next time we'll just have the tank pull from outside the pt, but I was wondering if there is a less cheat-like method :x
Note: the Intimidation Rate he gains doesn't reset even if you wipe and let him regen to 100% hp.
Tank doesnt have to pull from outside pt, just circle back and claim this way one he gets hit. Pretty easy fight for melee if nobody *** up.
How did you claim w/o ebullient?
How did you claim w/o ebullient?
geigei said: »
How did you claim w/o ebullient?
I was BRD in the melee setup and in the SMN setup I was uh... GEO? I don't remember. Think I was GEO.
Not knowing he could Ebullient at pull I just tried to replicate that strategy with my group but he did a draw in + Ebullient at pull and so that kinda *** us up.
I've read the Ebullient at pull is not 100% so that's why I was wondering what exactely procs it.
The part about "offensive buff" is unclear too. How can a buff be offensive? :x
I'm gonna try with tank claiming w/o any offensive buffs.
Ragnarok.Phuoc said: »
Anyone been able to do the skillchains? when we enter and get the "perform XX skillchains" we tried with SC and with melee doing WSs but nothing, at best we get 1 and that's it, is this bugged?
additionally, if the skillchain -kills- the monster, it won't count either
What is an offensive buff! Tell meeeeeeee! XD XD
He probably doesn't do it if you aggro-pull instead of spell/ja pull? Dunno.
He probably doesn't do it if you aggro-pull instead of spell/ja pull? Dunno.
Minuet is an offensive buff. You're right though, claiming instead aggroing might trigger that move.
Main problem with the Ebullient Nullification that happened to my static group is the Draw in + Ebullient combination.
If it were only Ebullient meh, just have everyone 20+ yalms and laugh at it.
But the fact he draws in as well it's a mess.
I don't see that mentioned on BG-Wiki, not sure what specifically in what we did procced the combination of Draw-in + Ebullient at pull.
Our tank was a RUN, had no buffs up other than undispellable ones (Runes and whatever else) and he pulled actively with a spell. I don't remember if it was Flash or Stun.
Also he pulled from the left side. I seem to recall in the runs I did with those pugs, the tank always pulled from behind?Not 100% sure on this.
If it were only Ebullient meh, just have everyone 20+ yalms and laugh at it.
But the fact he draws in as well it's a mess.
I don't see that mentioned on BG-Wiki, not sure what specifically in what we did procced the combination of Draw-in + Ebullient at pull.
Our tank was a RUN, had no buffs up other than undispellable ones (Runes and whatever else) and he pulled actively with a spell. I don't remember if it was Flash or Stun.
Also he pulled from the left side. I seem to recall in the runs I did with those pugs, the tank always pulled from behind?Not 100% sure on this.
Drawin never happened to me, we all hug, last time i even outrun ebullient as thf but rest stayed in range and still no drawin.
At pull we all got warped under his feet and he greeted us with a warming embrace of Ebullient Nullification.
I'm not sure if I was over 20 yalms myself, maybe not, but GEO and WHM were 100% over 20.
I'm not sure if I was over 20 yalms myself, maybe not, but GEO and WHM were 100% over 20.
Draw in happened to us on a pull last week. Pretty sure the tank pulled it from outside 20 with flash to trigger draw in. Also happened when person with hate died and the next person on the hate list (cor) was at 20 shooting away.
We've also pulled from behind and from the left before as well without seeing the draw in. So we're thinking that if the person with hate is over 20 away it will draw in and do nullification and proceed to eat everyone's buffs.
We've also pulled from behind and from the left before as well without seeing the draw in. So we're thinking that if the person with hate is over 20 away it will draw in and do nullification and proceed to eat everyone's buffs.
That sounds likely, at this point I'm confident our tank pulled with Stun/Flash from over 20 yalms.
Soo... safest way for this is either aggro the mob without pulling, or just drop the tank and have him do the pull then invite him back again after if you wanna be 101% safe.
Soo... safest way for this is either aggro the mob without pulling, or just drop the tank and have him do the pull then invite him back again after if you wanna be 101% safe.
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