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By Creecreelo 2016-12-25 17:09:09  
Phoenix.Brixy said: »
There are no augments. It was a misunderstanding or a translation error. The npc makes you trade the stuff twice so it takes 2 days to +3 something.

Quite disappointing. :(
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-25 17:09:56  
So it seemed that the frogs on Kyou path had true sight, but I was able to get past them with sneak and invisible. This was after we cleared the floor objective. Perhaps this is intended? I'll try and check again next time.

Also, fit groups getting the treasure room - are you clearing entire floors? We got a box room once and I think that's the only thing different about the run. Could just be luck of course.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-25 17:23:34  
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So it seemed that the frogs on Kyou path had true sight, but I was able to get past them with sneak and invisible. This was after we cleared the floor objective. Perhaps this is intended? I'll try and check again next time.

Also, fit groups getting the treasure room - are you clearing entire floors? We got a box room once and I think that's the only thing different about the run. Could just be luck of course.

I've cleared the floors every run for almost the entire time Omen has been out and gotten 3 box floors total.
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2016-12-25 18:03:19  
Nisroch Jerkin and Niqmaddu Ring come from Fu.
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By Asura.Lordoftheseven 2016-12-25 19:12:04  
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Nisroch Jerkin and Niqmaddu Ring come from Fu.


Woow thought for sure it would come from Kyou. Good to know thanks.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 03:46:03  
So am I missing something or has the upgrade goblin disappeared...?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-12-26 03:47:39  
They apparently disabled him for now. Notice went out about some issue with him and that they'll announce when he's back. I only saw that after zoning 5 times thinking it was just a very stubborn case of invisible NPCs, of course.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 03:49:59  
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They apparently disabled him for now. Notice went out about some issue with him and that they'll announce when he's back. I only saw that after zoning 5 times thinking it was just a very stubborn case of invisible NPCs, of course.

Yeah, just got enough to upgrade GEO boots, sad I don't get to stand around AFK in my +18% movement boots...
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-12-26 10:13:36  
Just as a heads up, anyone who has not missed a single day and has always done Omen on the same job, should be near a finished +3 piece,
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 10:21:26  
Sylph.Shadowlina said: »
Just as a heads up, anyone who has not missed a single day and has always done Omen on the same job, should be near a finished +3 piece,

Greatly depends on the piece. Finishing my GEO boots once the Goblin is back in the zone, though.
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By Ragnarok.Zaryun 2016-12-26 11:22:30  
Phoenix.Brixy said: »
There are no augments. It was a misunderstanding or a translation error. The npc makes you trade the stuff twice so it takes 2 days to +3 something.

Do you have a source for this or is it speculation? I just checked the upgrade Gob after the reisen maintenance and it's still the same dialogue which I'm pretty sure they would have fixed if it was wrong. It takes 1 scale + 50 cards (using body as an example) and 10k silt for the base +3 item and then a further 3 separate upgrade mats (5 in total 3x cyan orb for body) and 15k silt in two separate instalments afterwards. If it was as you say it should be they would have removed the "can be improved" dialogue at least and changed it to illustrate the upgrading process in a better way.

I don't think they are augments in the skirmish/escha sense but more like relic +2 upgrades. I think we'll see each piece gain an "enhances X" JA/trait and after that maybe a set enhancement? I'm positive there are "upgrades" though.
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By Phoenix.Brixy 2016-12-26 11:25:25  
We had someone in ls make a +3 item and they couldn't augment it. It may be different now after the maint though.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-12-26 11:42:40  
Did they trade all the crafting materials with it? Poke your "someone ins LS" more before spreading 2nd hand information.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 12:03:23  
I'll update next game day but first trade is +2, cards and scale, then it asks for the crafting materials. Currently awaiting end of day to see if anything more pops up.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 12:52:13  
Just got my +3, nothing else if I talk to the goblin, no dialogue if I trade him the +3 back again. No augments.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2016-12-26 12:59:01  
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just got my +3, nothing else if I talk to the goblin, no dialogue if I trade him the +3 back again. No augments.
Did you try trading the +3 and another set of mats?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 13:01:40  
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just got my +3, nothing else if I talk to the goblin, no dialogue if I trade him the +3 back again. No augments.
Did you try trading the +3 and another set of mats?

Why wouldn't there be dialogue for a new set of mats? What mats should I be trading? Do I need additional cards?

It's not exactly often they give you hidden augments, I don't see why they would have added any here.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2016-12-26 13:03:21  
The goblin says "Need two times" when he tells you the mats after requesting the scale and cards.

It is odd he doesn't request them after trading the +3 to him, but then again remember English players were never told that we cannot use brews for Aeonics.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-12-26 13:03:57  
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then it asks for the crafting materials.

So ya.... there is no "further enhance" just a 2 step trade to goblin. derp. Guess many pieces are just made to not be made.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2016-12-26 13:08:43  
Disclaimer: Need two times could mean two trades. If you want to spend the money gathering materials, try it for science.

Edit: Did you give him two bead transactions to upgrade from +2 to +3? If you did, id say its safe to assume no augments.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evildgnker 2016-12-26 13:10:54  
any idea on acc cap on fu? had about 1500 racc on rng and still managed to miss maybe 2/10 shots give or take i had Cor & geo buffs.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-12-26 13:16:42  
brd for prelude and soul voice if needed would def cap it
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By Ragnarok.Zaryun 2016-12-26 13:48:46  
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Sylph.Funkworkz said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just got my +3, nothing else if I talk to the goblin, no dialogue if I trade him the +3 back again. No augments.
Did you try trading the +3 and another set of mats?

Why wouldn't there be dialogue for a new set of mats? What mats should I be trading? Do I need additional cards?

It's not exactly often they give you hidden augments, I don't see why they would have added any here.

Can you explain the process you went through to upgrade? Did you only have to trade him the scale + cards? Thanks in advance.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-12-26 14:17:19  
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just got my +3, nothing else if I talk to the goblin, no dialogue if I trade him the +3 back again. No augments.
Did you try trading the +3 and another set of mats?

Why wouldn't there be dialogue for a new set of mats? What mats should I be trading? Do I need additional cards?

It's not exactly often they give you hidden augments, I don't see why they would have added any here.

Can you explain the process you went through to upgrade? Did you only have to trade him the scale + cards? Thanks in advance.

First trade was +2, scale and cards. After a gameday wait (less if you spend beads) he asks for the crafting mats. Traded those, waited a gameday, got my +3 handed to me.
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By Valefor.Maurauc 2016-12-26 14:24:14  
So he didn't give you the +3 after the scale and cards? You required more mats?

The game itself makes it sound like you pay 200/10000 beads for the +3 with scale/cards, then the 3xAzure Cermet, Khoma Thread, and Orb, twice, would make them "improved" for 300/15000.

Is there anyone who can check what the JP text alludes to?
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-12-26 14:46:05  
it doesnt give the item back after item+scale, it takes 2 game days if you do it slow there was no augment on finished item
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2016-12-26 14:59:38  
This is the same line in japanese where he asks to trade "two times" in english.

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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2016-12-26 15:19:13  
Booooooooooooooo etc.

I will adjust the bgwiki template when I get home if no one does it first.

Oh well, just shrinks the list of pieces I might want.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-12-26 15:32:51  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
So it seemed that the frogs on Kyou path had true sight, but I was able to get past them with sneak and invisible. This was after we cleared the floor objective. Perhaps this is intended? I'll try and check again next time.

Some follow up on this - I didn't get aggro when I had sneak and invisible. I didn't try invis only, but dropping invis resulted in the undead mold things aggroing me.
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