Trueflight Sets

...let's not even delve into hybrid weaponskills.... ;)

Did a small sample test of my own, I just have a hard time believing that MAB overtakes WSD that easily. I mean, it will, but takes a lot.

ItemSet 363219

Gastra = R15
Herc Head = 42 MAB (+32 aug)
Herc Body = 38 MAB, 3 WSD (DM aug)
Herc Legs = 39 MAB (DM aug)
Herc Feet = 44 MAB (+34 aug)
Cape = 30 AGI, 20 Mattk/Macc, 10 WSD
AGI = 104 + 182

ItemSet 363218

Gastra = R15
Herc Body = 38 MAB, 3 WSD (DM aug)
Herc Feet = 44 MAB (+34 aug)
Cape = 30 AGI, 20 Mattk/Macc, 10 WSD
AGI = 104 + 197

Tested on Apex Bats at 3k TP for 8 WS's each.
MAB = 45914
WSD = 46052

Tested on Apex Eruca at 3k tp for 8 WS's Each.
MAB = 46199
WSD = 46252

So uh Tomayto, Tomawto ?? They are so close I'll just go with which has more MACC I guess.

Did you also account for the ∆AGI between the two sets, if any?

Did you try scouts gorget +2 over pendent? also wondering if me testing in reisen because the vorseals we get to push the mab over the wsdmg

Good Point, WSD set had +15 AGI. I was also testing a 3k tp and Zero was testing at 1.1k.


I don't have a scouts neck yet, went for Rostam first. But yeah I think maybe vorseals did it. I'll do more testing on our next dynamis wave3 clear, probably next month. With Malaise, Acumen, Evokers, Warlocks it may change.

i mean thats what i was telling people that its so close but yea from my testing in reisen mab was winning could have been because of the vorseals and i use scouts +2 rank 25 in my Tf set but definitely go with MAcc Sets for sure when you start doing end game 140+ content

Reisenjima vorseals would favor WSD sets, not MAB. The more MAB you have, the less of an increase (percentage wise) that additional MAB is.

from my sets thats the dmg i posted from doing tf on Chapuli at 1100 tp and my mab sets was going over my wsdmg

If 1 MAB ~ 100 damage then yeah 40 MAB > 10% damage

At your mab eat a mab food (+6) and see if you gain 600 damage

https://www.ffxiah.com/item/6063/fruit-parfait

I think step one is to post testing with full listing of stats and buffs- AGI has a huge factor in Trueflight damage, and is often forgotten about in these days of MAB/WSD vomit. Getting exact numbers of all stats, what the buffs are (and who's giving them- a non-capped dunna geo or a capped idris for example).

There's clearly something going on, and zero, don't fear the questioning- what you're suggesting does change a great deal of what is accepted knowledge, so if it pans out expect pushback. And if it doesn't, know its just fellow RNGs wanting the best knowledge out there.

MAB and WSD are equivalent stats. The only thing that makes WSD perform 'better' point for point is that there is so much less of it. The following is going to tell you what is better (as long as AGI remains constant.)

D = (100 + MAB) * (100 + WSD)

Just plug in all of the gear sets you're considering and you can know which will give you better results. The 3 MAB ~ 1 WSD works because gear puts you in the +250~300 MAB range while your WSD should be under 40 unless you've got some crazy DM augments or are erroneously using JSE (unless you want the macc, then those are good choices.) I've got 322 MAB and 23 WSD in my set. Based on those numbers, you get the following.

+1 MAB - 0.2370% marginal gain
+1 WSD - 0.8130% marginal gain

3.431 MAB/WSD marginal gain ratios.

so currently in the set i have atm for my trueflight is 379 Mab and 10% WSDMG and 320 Agi not buffed

Swapped capped Samnuha Coat for Carmine Scale Mail. Been meaning to for a while, just been lazy. My final build.

+329 Magic Attack Bonus
+334 Magic Accuracy
+23% Weapon Skill Damage
319 AGI

Should get another 11 Magic Accuracy when I finish upgrading Gastra. I could swap out herc hands for carmine although I don't want to lose the magic accuracy. Suppose I could put it in a high acc set though.

with that level of macc, I honestly think you'll be fine using carmine+1 hands over some augmented herc for anything outside of targets where you shouldn't be using Trueflight anyways due to ridiculous mdef/meva. Those times as we all know is when we should pull out Last Stand. I'm sitting around 290macc in my build right now and never have resist issues that make me question my choices- again, unless I were to foolishly try and hammer a dyna wave2 boss with trueflight or something of that nature.

tl;dr- go for it on the carmine hands.

I've been doing things like Escha T4 using Trueflight. I don't know what the requirements are for those so I just pile on a lot. Making the changes to carmine hands would only increase my damage by around 0.52% and then whatever 4 AGI would do. I'll definitely add them to my low acc set but I think 30 macc is worth a 1% increase in damage.

should we tell him?

I didn't notice that part. We use Trueflight/Leaden for all wave 2 bosses. They go fairly smoothly and quickly.

Does this seem unintuitive to anyone else? I would expect as you introduce things like Acumen, the marginal benefit of additional MAB would decrease, not increase.