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 Sylph.Wasenshi
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By Sylph.Wasenshi 2019-12-16 16:35:35  
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Don't even need Empyreal Arrow for Fusion access. PLD has access to the best fusion WS in the game.

At least we have native skill for that so it'll actually hit.
It's a breath attack it won't miss
 
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By Taint 2019-12-16 18:14:56  
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Is PLD fixed?

Not, its better but RUN still shits on it.
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By Asura.Arico 2019-12-16 18:18:52  
Taint said: »
DirectX said: »
Is PLD fixed?

Not, its better but RUN still shits on it.

Shits on it is a bit of an overstatement, don't you think? Are there any fights in the game that's just impossible for a pld? Rune definitely makes fights easier, but I can't think of anything that just can't be done with a paladin.
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By Asura.Fracture 2019-12-16 23:03:39  
The HQ2: Knight's Beads +2 on BG FFXI Wiki claim the neck at max ends up being:

Path A
HP +60
VIT & MND +20
Damage Taken -7%

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I capped out the Knight's Beads +2 and I only have VIT +15 and MND +15. Is BG FFXI Wiki wrong or is the label on the item incorrect?
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2019-12-16 23:09:55  
Take them off and see if you lose 15 or 20 VIT/MND. If you lose 15, Wiki is wrong, if you lose 20, the label is wrong.
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By huttburt<3 2019-12-16 23:38:21  
Asura.Fracture said: »
The HQ2: Knight's Beads +2 on BG FFXI Wiki claim the neck at max ends up being:

Path A
HP +60
VIT & MND +20
Damage Taken -7%

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I capped out the Knight's Beads +2 and I only have VIT +15 and MND +15. Is BG FFXI Wiki wrong or is the label on the item incorrect?

question is: why did you dump money into it in the first place?
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By Ozaii 2019-12-17 15:26:21  
Asura.Arico said: »
Taint said: »
DirectX said: »
Is PLD fixed?

Not, its better but RUN still shits on it.

Shits on it is a bit of an overstatement, don't you think? Are there any fights in the game that's just impossible for a pld? Rune definitely makes fights easier, but I can't think of anything that just can't be done with a paladin.

Yepp. Pld can tank prettt much any fight. But run has foil and can cap its haste with hasso/last resort for damage. And buffs/debuffs. And parry > block. Pld still more iconic though.
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By Ozaii 2019-12-19 11:48:16  
Been having fun with pld tanking dynamis wave 3. Is a blast using it.
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By Bahamut.Omegus 2019-12-20 03:07:40  
Cure/SIR/DT/HP idea

ammo="Staunch Tathlum +1",
head={ name="Souv. Schaller +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
body={ name="Souv. Cuirass +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
hands="Macabre Gaunt. +1",
legs={ name="Founder's Hose", augments={'MND+10','Mag. Acc.+15','Attack+15','Breath dmg. taken -5%',}},
feet={ name="Odyssean Greaves", augments={'Mag. Acc.+12','"Cure" potency +6%','CHR+10','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12',}},
neck="Kgt. Beads +2",
waist="Rumination Sash",
left_ear="Odnowa Earring +1",
right_ear="Etiolation Earring",
left_ring="Moonlight Ring",
right_ring="Moonlight Ring",
back={ name="Rudianos's Mantle", augments={'HP+80','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','"Cure" potency +10%','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}},

Cure pot 45%
Cure received 30%
SIR 101(with merits) tested doesn't get interrupted
DT/PDT 48% (would be 52% with new DOM belt)
HP 2982 (could be a higher depending on how much mp you wanna drop with a 2nd odnowa/DOM earring)
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By Ozaii 2019-12-20 21:38:31  
Just toying around with pld. It feels that it can do more damage chant spamming at 1k vs savage at 1750 just because the chants are seeming to average a little higher with frequency considered than savage does.
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By Shiva.Isolation 2019-12-20 22:28:03  
Ozaii said: »
Just toying around with pld. It feels that it can do more damage chant spamming at 1k vs savage at 1750 just because the chants are seeming to average a little higher with frequency considered than savage does.
I was gonna say what I feel, but prob not worth it. But your wrong.
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By Asura.Gotenn 2019-12-20 22:46:01  
Bahamut.Omegus said: »
Cure/SIR/DT/HP idea

ammo="Staunch Tathlum +1",
head={ name="Souv. Schaller +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
body={ name="Souv. Cuirass +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
hands="Macabre Gaunt. +1",
legs={ name="Founder's Hose", augments={'MND+10','Mag. Acc.+15','Attack+15','Breath dmg. taken -5%',}},
feet={ name="Odyssean Greaves", augments={'Mag. Acc.+12','"Cure" potency +6%','CHR+10','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12',}},
neck="Kgt. Beads +2",
waist="Rumination Sash",
left_ear="Odnowa Earring +1",
right_ear="Etiolation Earring",
left_ring="Moonlight Ring",
right_ring="Moonlight Ring",
back={ name="Rudianos's Mantle", augments={'HP+80','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','"Cure" potency +10%','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}},

Cure pot 45%
Cure received 30%
SIR 101(with merits) tested doesn't get interrupted
DT/PDT 48% (would be 52% with new DOM belt)
HP 2982 (could be a higher depending on how much mp you wanna drop with a 2nd odnowa/DOM earring)
I didnt think to make a cure potency back, I can cap SIRD pritty easily without it in my back slot, so might be worth looking into. I got my SU5 sword to rank 15 and been seeing pritty decent numbers for self cures, but also my whm is usually quick about getting to me before I can.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2019-12-23 08:44:34  
How up to date is the gear selection for this guide? Recently came back, and my friend asked if i wanted to pick up tanking again since i usually ran RDM & PLD.

if theres any additions to the optimal sets on this guide, please let me know, since im going to use this as my shopping list <_>
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By Phoenix.Miraun 2019-12-23 09:40:57  
It's not updated... I've been doing some theorycrafting offline while working with a few others in my LS for input.

High level requirements:
Souveran Gear
Uninterruptable set (102%... some reports have said 101 is passable)
Phalanx Set (Alluvion Skirmish and lots of augmenting)

Aim to keep 51% PDT. MDT only needs to be 25% with Shell, and you'll hit that from general DT. Then you want Fast Cast in your precast, while also balancing out max HP so you don't rubber band your max HP. Midcast you'll want Emnity, uninterruptable, while also concentrating on HP.

Aspirational: Odin Body, AF+3 Body. Then there's a lot of nitpicking min/maxing
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2019-12-23 09:50:17  
Any chance you could help me with a shopping list in that case?

I'm Assuming its the basic *** tier of Max AF/Rel/Emp, Get Aegis/Ochain/xcala, get full Neo koenig+1. Safe to assume most of the accessories listed are still worth pursuing?

What else?

As for the phalanx set: Boy am i salty. i just made a full taeon phalanx set for RDM lol. Here we go again.
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By Phoenix.Miraun 2019-12-23 09:53:21  
Bahamut.Omegus said: »
Cure/SIR/DT/HP idea

ammo="Staunch Tathlum +1",
head={ name="Souv. Schaller +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
body={ name="Souv. Cuirass +1", augments={'HP+105','Enmity+9','Potency of "Cure" effect received +15%',}},
hands="Macabre Gaunt. +1",
legs={ name="Founder's Hose", augments={'MND+10','Mag. Acc.+15','Attack+15','Breath dmg. taken -5%',}},
feet={ name="Odyssean Greaves", augments={'Mag. Acc.+12','"Cure" potency +6%','CHR+10','"Mag.Atk.Bns."+12',}},
neck="Kgt. Beads +2",
waist="Rumination Sash",
left_ear="Odnowa Earring +1",
right_ear="Etiolation Earring",
left_ring="Moonlight Ring",
right_ring="Moonlight Ring",
back={ name="Rudianos's Mantle", augments={'HP+80','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','"Cure" potency +10%','Phys. dmg. taken-10%',}},

Cure pot 45%
Cure received 30%
SIR 101(with merits) tested doesn't get interrupted
DT/PDT 48% (would be 52% with new DOM belt)
HP 2982 (could be a higher depending on how much mp you wanna drop with a 2nd odnowa/DOM earring)

I think the better question to ask yourself is whether +Cure Potency will net you higher results than +Emnity... And how much Emnity you are giving up to get those cure potency results!

Mathematically, the two are the same. Increasing 10% more cures is the same as getting 10% more enmity from the cures. However, the subjectivity comes into the realization of the benefits. The Cure potency is ONLY worthwhile if the amount of HP loss for all targets is greater than your base curing amount. So if you cure for 1000, and they only lost 800 HP, that cure potency is going to waste. However, the Enmity will never go to waste.


So, I like cure potency, but not at the expense of Enmity... If the trade off were 1:1, I'd go enmity hands down.

For an example, if we look at earrings. Medicant's versus Cryptic? I'd still probably lean towards Cryptic, but use Medicants in for precast purposes for the other stats. Nurishing versus Cryptic? That's a much better debate, but I'd need to evaluate other factors like potential HP loss in midcast, which would probably guide my hand towards Cryptic.
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By Asura.Pusheen 2019-12-25 00:48:09  
Looking for Refresh options from gear without being Dark Matter. Thanks!
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2019-12-25 01:02:42  
Homiliary: +1
Coatl Gorget: +1
Vim Torque +1: +1-3 under latent of engaged, drains HP
Souveran Cuirass path D: NQ+2, HQ+3
Stikini Ring +1: +1
Jumalik Mail: +2
Jumalik Helm: +1
Moonshade Earring: +1
Fucho-No-Obi: +1 under latent of 50% MP
Ogier set: +1 for 2 or 3 pieces, +2 for 4 or 5 pieces
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By Asura.Bayonette 2019-12-25 15:40:35  
Asura.Pusheen said: »
Looking for Refresh options from gear without being Dark Matter. Thanks!

Dynamis D sword path C. I have the HQ1, 3 refresh, 200 hp 20% cure potency.

NQ - 2
HQ1 - 3
HQ2 - 4

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Moralltach
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By Asura.Pusheen 2019-12-26 00:55:39  
So far what I have is:

Practical:
Main: Su5 +4
Ammo: Homiliary +1
Head: Jumalik +1
Neck: Creed +1
Body: Souveran +3
Hands: Regal Gauntlets +1
Ring1: Stikini +1 +1
Ring2: Stikini +1 +1
Waist: Fucho-no-Obi (Latent)
Set: 13~14

Dark Matter:
Main: Su5 +4
Ammo: Homiliary +1
Head: Valorous +2
Neck: Creed +1
Body: SOuveran +3
Hands: Odyssean/Valorous +2
Ring1: Stikini +1 +1
Ring2: Stikini +1 +1
Waist: Fucho-no-Obi (Latent)
Legs: Odyssean/Valorous +2
Feet: Odyssean/Valorous +2
Set: 19~20

Left out Vim bc I dont plan on engaging (Idle Refresh)

If I left something out or you find something better please let me know. Thanks!
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By andy1110 2019-12-26 04:57:32  
hey guys, just come back game from a long break, I would like to farm some omen cards with my brd mule, would you recommend using GS or sword+shield combo for bosses? I have Excalibur & Caladbolg at R15 b4 break. thanks in advance!
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By Taint 2019-12-26 06:53:13  
andy1110 said: »
hey guys, just come back game from a long break, I would like to farm some omen cards with my brd mule, would you recommend using GS or sword+shield combo for bosses? I have Excalibur & Caladbolg at R15 b4 break. thanks in advance!


Skip the bosses if you want cards.

You can cleave with Using dagger/shield and AE spam or shockwave does a decent job as well.

PLD is a meh card farming job IMO. You prob have DRK since you have r15 Cala, use that instead.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2019-12-26 06:54:50  
probably needs pld cards
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By andy1110 2019-12-26 07:12:11  
yes, need pld cards and I want to do the boss to try some omen body lucks lol, not in a rush to get all cards, but something to do whenever I have time to play, so Cala for pld+brd duo then?
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By DononofSylph 2019-12-26 07:47:01  
Cala PLD is really overlooked for farming cards. Just throw on full TP gear, go /Sam and fight as if you are DRK. Should farm cards relatively easy.
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By Taint 2019-12-26 11:21:14  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
probably needs pld cards


Whoops i read it as he’s getting his BRD cards.
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2019-12-30 19:38:08  
Does Divine Emblem have any use for Banishga?
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2019-12-30 19:52:43  
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Does Divine Emblem have any use for Banishga?
Not really. It'll increase the Enmity and DMG just like it would for holy. But the enmity gain on crap dmg is still crap.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-03 08:45:41  
i'm just a baby paladin without a REMA weapon; How would you say the malignance sword stacks up to current options?



I have a kaja sword, and a few other options, but i picked this up last night and was wondering if its a decent option.
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