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Treason and Congress letter to Iran - No one undermines the US like the Republicans
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 Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-12 17:03:26  
Back on topic.
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Major world powers have quietly begun talks on a U.N. Security Council resolution to lift U.N. sanctions on Iran if a nuclear agreement is struck, a step that could make it harder for the U.S. Congress to undo a deal, Western officials said.

The talks between Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States — the five permanent members of the Security Council — plus Germany and Iran, are taking place ahead of difficult negotiations that resume next week over constricting Tehran's nuclear ability.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told Congress on Wednesday that an Iran nuclear deal would not be legally binding, meaning future presidents could decide not to implement it. That point was emphasized in an open letter by 47 Republican senators sent on Monday to Iran's leaders asserting any deal could be discarded once President Barack Obama leaves office in January 2017

But a Security Council resolution on a nuclear deal with Iran could be legally binding, say Western diplomatic officials, complicating and possibly undercutting future attempts by Republicans in Washington to unravel an agreement.

Iran and the six powers are aiming to complete the framework of a final nuclear deal by the end of March and achieve a full agreement by June 30 to curb Iran's most sensitive nuclear activities for at least 10 years in exchange for a gradual end of all sanctions on the Islamic Republic.

So far, those talks have focused heavily on separate U.S. and EU sanctions on Iran's energy and financial sectors, which Tehran desperately wants removed and are a sticking point in the talks that resume next week in Lausanne, Switzerland, between Iran and the six powers.

But Western officials involved in the negotiations said they are also discussing a draft resolution for the 15-nation Security Council to begin easing U.N. nuclear-related sanctions that have been in place since December 2006.

"If there's a nuclear deal, and that's still a big 'if', we'll want to move quickly on the U.N. sanctions issue," an official said, requesting anonymity.
Exclusive: Talks under way on ending U.N. sanctions on Iran - officials
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By Zackan 2015-03-12 17:03:52  
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I'm American.

Here and your rousing speeches didn't really do much for me.

Alas! I guess I' just impervious to the influences of such powerful documents.

I'm going to try out for the X-men.


Which is why we have opposing views and opposing ideas to solutions to our problems. I want to be true to Constitution and you want to see how many ways you can break away from it.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-12 17:04:42  
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.
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By Lye 2015-03-12 17:04:44  
My code name will be: doctrine
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By Zackan 2015-03-12 17:08:02  
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-03-12 17:08:39  

Expect this to infuriate the GOP even more, followed by them coming right out and saying they will never sign off on lifting US sanctions.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-03-12 17:09:01  
"People who want to undo the work of Roosevelt are attempting political suicide and are dumb" - Ike Eisenhower, some guy who didn't like Roosevelt but knew better than to reverse his legacy while President.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-12 17:10:50  
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.

Going to war 3 times must have been fun.

Personally, I thought 1940s Germany taught the world what happens when you replace objectivity with blind nationalism, but here we are again.
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:11:15  
13 pages till a Hitler reference son I"m disappointed.
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By Zackan 2015-03-12 17:11:52  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
"People who want to undo the work of Roosevelt are attempting political suicide and are dumb" - Ike Eisenhower, some guy who didn't like Roosevelt but knew better than to reverse his legacy while President.

maybe, but oh well
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:13:08  
We are verging on a Civics lesson this is dangerous.
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By Zackan 2015-03-12 17:15:21  
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.

Going to war 3 times must have been fun.

Personally, I thought 1940s Germany taught the world what happens when you replace objectivity with blind nationalism, but here we are again.

Better than the disease that is progressivism I may be a little to loyal to the Constitution, maybe, but progressives see it as a plague, the goal of progressivism is to change everything, until it is unrecognizable. And then change it somemore. Progressives read the constitution loosely, because the aim to find what you can get a way with, while a strict reader wants to know what it actually says.

What does it NOT stop me doing vs what does it tell me to do.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-12 17:18:05  
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.

Going to war 3 times must have been fun.

Personally, I thought 1940s Germany taught the world what happens when you replace objectivity with blind nationalism, but here we are again.

Better than the disease that is progressivism I may be a little to loyal to the Constitution, maybe, but progressives see it as a plague, the goal of progressivism is to change everything, until it is unrecognizable. And then change it somemore. Progressives read the constitution loosely, because the aim to find what you can get a way with, while a strict reader wants to know what it actually says.

What does it NOT stop me doing vs what does it tell me to do.

Now it just sounds like you're trying to make an enemy out of thin air.

Making up lies about another group of citizens just so you can demonize them also reminds me of 1940s Germany.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-12 17:19:17  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »

Expect this to infuriate the GOP even more, followed by them coming right out and saying they will never sign off on lifting US sanctions.
Sounds like the ante has been upped by the dems.
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:19:39  
How many references to Hitler can we fit on one page. I'll go with 4 !
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-12 17:23:00  
It's actually a Nazi reference, but Hitler reference is more of a meme, so I understand.
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:23:15  
The year is 2016 Hitler has come back to visit America to kill zombie Jews !

Meanwhile the Jew lover in Iran won't stop developing enriched uranium !

Maybe if we ask really nice. Pretty please with a cherry on top stop enriching uranium.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-12 17:24:21  
Godwin'd.

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By Lye 2015-03-12 17:26:34  
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.

Going to war 3 times must have been fun.

Personally, I thought 1940s Germany taught the world what happens when you replace objectivity with blind nationalism, but here we are again.

Better than the disease that is progressivism I may be a little to loyal to the Constitution, maybe, but progressives see it as a plague, the goal of progressivism is to change everything, until it is unrecognizable. And then change it somemore. Progressives read the constitution loosely, because the aim to find what you can get a way with, while a strict reader wants to know what it actually says.

What does it NOT stop me doing vs what does it tell me to do.

Sorry but gotta keep this intact as I have MSPaint plans for it.
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:28:25  
Is this about Iran or George W Bush cause I'm not sure.

Both are evil but I'm not sure which is more evil.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-12 17:28:58  
This is about 'Murica! & Iran
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:30:36  
Well it's simple than Murica > Iran

Tell those Jew lovers we've had it up to here with the uranium !
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By fonewear 2015-03-12 17:35:52  
UN sanction let me hold my laughter !
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-12 18:16:42  
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Zackan said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I think you just want it to be more than it is just so you can justify the actions you've taken in your life.

What actions? Being an american who pays attention to our affairs and wishes to have an impact? To not be the 70% who say ' i choose not to vote because my vote doesnt matter'

I love how Patriotic is translated as something bad among you guys.

Going to war 3 times must have been fun.

Personally, I thought 1940s Germany taught the world what happens when you replace objectivity with blind nationalism, but here we are again.

Better than the disease that is progressivism I may be a little to loyal to the Constitution, maybe, but progressives see it as a plague, the goal of progressivism is to change everything, until it is unrecognizable. And then change it somemore. Progressives read the constitution loosely, because the aim to find what you can get a way with, while a strict reader wants to know what it actually says.

What does it NOT stop me doing vs what does it tell me to do.

Progressives want to change things, yeah, that's the definition of progressive.

But, I'd like to hear how you think progressives are trying to change the constitution and why it would be a bad thing in your examples. Similarly, how are conservatives trying to preserve it, and why are those examples good.

Bonus points for using facts, points lost for typical diametric "us good them bad" ***.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-03-12 18:26:18  
I don't think a guy who's ok with amending the Constitution but hates changes made to the constitution can go that much in depth.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-03-12 19:45:29  
[quote="Asura.Kingnobody" pid=2842308]But if you are going to accuse anyone of treason, [b]name the law that person broke[/b].[/quote]

Republicans and Democrats currently serving and former who written laws that are still alive today that[b] Knowingly broke oaths sworn to uphold the constitutional rights of the citizens of the united states of america.[/b]


[quote="maldini" pid=2842316]Every republican that tries to squirm his way out of this is either an idiot, ignorant or a traitor.
They're informed now so they can't be ignorant.

That just leaves idiocy and treachery. Lets see where the pieces fall as the posts come in.[/quote]

its not just republicans who should be convicted of treason charges and be hanged. The democrats knowingly had there hands in breaking oaths they swore to uphold the citizens constitutional law. Our constitutional law and our rights and freedoms derived from it will be restored in our life time.
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-12 20:11:21  
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But if you are going to accuse anyone of treason, name the law that person broke.

Republicans and Democrats currently serving and former who written laws that are still alive today that Knowingly broke oaths sworn to uphold the constitutional rights of the citizens of the united states of america.


maldini said: »
Every republican that tries to squirm his way out of this is either an idiot, ignorant or a traitor.
They're informed now so they can't be ignorant.

That just leaves idiocy and treachery. Lets see where the pieces fall as the posts come in.

its not just republicans who should be convicted of treason charges and be hanged. The democrats knowingly had there hands in breaking oaths they swore to uphold the citizens constitutional law. Our constitutional law and our rights and freedoms derived from it will be restored in our life time.
So you've gone from illegally arresting and charging public officials with treason, to illegally hanging them without a trial.

Did I call this, or did I call this?

Again, you have yet to point out any laws broken, nor will you ever be able to. a self-proclaimed "student of criminal justice" who can't even name the school of law he attended at, let alone the professor, or legal courses taken, will never be able to do so.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-12 20:13:41  
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But if you are going to accuse anyone of treason, name the law that person broke.
Republicans and Democrats currently serving and former who written laws that are still alive today that Knowingly broke oaths sworn to uphold the constitutional rights of the citizens of the united states of america.
its not just republicans who should be convicted of treason charges and be hanged. The democrats knowingly had there hands in breaking oaths they swore to uphold the citizens constitutional law. Our constitutional law and our rights and freedoms derived from it will be restored in our life time.
Name an instance where an oath was broken, and provide reasoning behind your accusation.
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-12 20:18:19  
Also, as a student of criminal justice, you should know that evidence must first be presented, and that the accused have a right to face their accusers, and to present a defense before the courts.

But by all means, convict them without evidence, as it quite clearly shows you're not as impartial as you *tried* to initially portray yourself.

You've been asked time and again to present evidence, or at the very least, an argument as to why both parties should be arrested for treason, and at every mention, have so strongly ignored it, that any credibility you have, is worse than Hillary Clinton's during this current "scandal".

Oh, and what was it that the Federal Reserve did? Who is in control of the Reserve? Oh right, multiple entities including private banking institutions, which reports to Congress.
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By Zackan 2015-03-12 20:33:59  
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I don't think a guy who's ok with amending the Constitution but hates changes made to the constitution can go that much in depth.

Such an inappropriate statement.

If you can get a 3/4 vote to ratify the constitution then i would fully support the change. The changes I speak of progressives making is in translation of the constitution. Attempt to move the bar, once the new position is settled then move it again.

I am a constitutional conservative with a dash of libertarian. I believe we have gotten out of control with spending and goverment programs and entities. I would support an abolishment of the IRS and the DOE. I believe that when it comes to Immigration, I don't have a problem with Amnesty actually, what I have a problem with is putting cart before the horse. We need to adress tightening our borders FIRST then we can DISCUSS how to deal with immigrants living here.

I believe in seperate but equal (yah yah, i can feel that statement being targeted already) definitions of Marriage. I believe that spirituality should not be as taboo as it is these days. I believe that all presidents are hated, especially while they are still in office. I believe that presidents get blamed for the results of the prior president coming into fruition.

I believe that the senate should be elected by the states(like it use to be) I believe the Federal Reserve needs to be dissolved. I believe we need to add more amendments to the constitution(balanced budget, 12 year limit for congress)
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