Lye said: »
Hey! Can you tell me whether or not this dumbbell feels disrespected?
I find you slightly smarter than a metal object.
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Lye said: » Hey! Can you tell me whether or not this dumbbell feels disrespected? I find you slightly smarter than a metal object. What about this I-beam. Surely this gym would have fallen without it.
Lye definitely must be progressive. According to Lye it probably exists only to be changed. It exists to find ways to do things by reading loosely into it and arguing translations.
Progressive = Change, once the change is in effect, change it again. Lye said: » What about this I-beam. Surely this gym would have fallen without it. Perhaps you're right. I'm not sure.
However, it's awfully convenient that the feelings of a 300 year-old document align with yours so well. Does the bible agree with you too? How does hammurabi's code feel about liberals?
Please, enlighten me. Lye said: » Zackan said: » If the constitution is to be treated like a mere piece of paper, then our country should have fallen a long time ago. It is a 'living' document. Best way for me to explain this is to change the subject slightly. It is like how philosopher's insist there must be a god, God, or some kind of ultimate entity because if not then morality is thrown out the window. If there is no god, there is no good and evil, and your actions have no meaning. So yes, I do treat the constitution like a living breathing thing. The United States of America IS THE CONSTITUTION. They are one and the same, in seperable. Lye said: » Perhaps you're right. I'm not sure. However, it's awfully convenient that the feelings of a 300 year-old document align with yours so well. Does the bible agree with you too? Translation -its convenient that the very document the country you live in and that your country was founded upon aligns with you, a citizen of that country Cuz god forbid patriotism.. No doubt the Koran is outraged by Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account.
Lye said: » No doubt the Koran is outraged by Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account. If you're an American, and you see a large group of people in another country burning the American flag, do you feel it's disrespectful?
Lye said: » No doubt the Koran is outraged by Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account. I just cant follow this line of thought. God forbid you place value in highly valued things. When you disrecpect the Koran, you are disrespecting Muslims. But the Muslims feel disrespected because they feel you disrespected the Koran. When you disrespect the Bible, you disrespect christians. The Christians feel disrespected because they feel you disrespected the Bible. When you disrespect the Constitution, you disrespect the People of the USA, The People of the USA feel disrespected because you disrespected there constitution. so on and so forth. I disagree with your analysis of the constitution. It's simplistic and remains an untestable hypothesis. Regardless, it does nothing to establish the constitutions feelings.
If you believe it to be living and breathing, how do you tell how it feels? How do you eliminate the possibity that you attribute your feelings to at by mistake? Hi2u terrorism Leviathan.Chaosx said: » If you're an American, and you see a large group of people in another country burning the American flag, do you feel it's disrespectful? Yes, but I will also say it depends. There are respectful ways to burn it. I don't care if you burn a flag.
Should I? Should you presume to tell me whether or not I should? Lye said: » I disagree with your analysis of the constitution. It's simplistic and remains an untestable hypothesis. Regardless, it does nothing to establish the constitutions feelings. If you believe it to be living and breathing, how do you tell how it feels? How do you eliminate the possibity that you attribute your feelings to at by mistake? Hi2u terrorism How is that silly. Establish that it has been abused and disrespected. You have no ability to corroborate.
No more than I can ask a box of tissues how it feels about global warming. When I asked my box of tissues about global warming, it said it felt empty inside, and needed a tissue.
Lye said: » I disagree with your analysis of the constitution. It's simplistic and remains an untestable hypothesis. Regardless, it does nothing to establish the constitutions feelings. If you believe it to be living and breathing, how do you tell how it feels? How do you eliminate the possibity that you attribute your feelings to at by mistake? Hi2u terrorism Yah well I disagree with your analysis of the constitution, it is simplistic. The Constitution is the single most important document that exists in the USA. You take to literal the word 'feel' I feel that the constitution 'feels' the way the American People feel. Especially those that care, that ones who actually vote and participate in the electoral process. This last election there was a 30% voter turn out, obviously the other 70% of people don't care about the process and they most definitely don't care about the constitution except where it directly affects them. They will gladly yell to the mountaintops 'freedom of speech!!!' Lye said: » How is that silly. Sorry but being figurative rarely proves anything, much less dissuade anyone of anything, ever. I fail to see the difference if Osama bin laden felt that the Koran had been disrespected by the "west" and felt inclined to kill Amercians due to his feelings, and therefore, the feelings of a text instrumental in the development of countless nations. Lye said: » How is that silly. Establish that it has been abused and disrespected. You have no ability to corroborate. No more than I can ask a box of tissues how it feels about global warming. Because you are being silly. It is not just the piece of damn paper! It is all those who fought and died in the American Revolution, it is those founding members who met and created the Constitution. It is our 'unalienable rights' its is my brothers and sisters in arms who fight to defend this country to keep those rights. It is the electoral process in action that create new amendments, or The People speaking out to remove existing Amendments. The constitution is not to be compared with a box of tissues, with a dumbbell or anything else. It is everything the Constitution stands for that I defend when I go off to war 3 times so far. It is the future I want for my kids, it is the life I want for my family at present.... I'm sure any number of people feel the same way about any number of documents. What makes yours so special?
Lye said: » Sorry but being figurative rarely proves anything, much less dissuade anyone of anything, ever. I fail to see the difference if Osama bin laden felt that the Koran had been disrespected by the "west" and felt inclined to kill Amercians due to his feelings, and therefore, the feelings of a text instrumental in the development of countless nations. It is justified. For him at least. Being a Patriotic American, I take pride in the Constitution, and it is a ideal worth fighting for. There will be people opposed to my Ideal, that is the way of things. Osama has every right to feel disrespected, and as an American I have every right to have a Counter Ideal to him and attempt to stop him from putting his 'disrespect' into action. Me disagreeing with him does not make his Ideal any less valid. It merely becomes an Issue of Right or wrong, which can be subjective. He may feel right and that I am wrong, or I may feel right and the he is wrong. Either way it is a disagreement, but both sides are valid. It's just a document, used as a prop for politicians when it's convenient for them and completely ignored when it's inconvenient. The vast majority of Americans don't even know what's in it other than the first and second amendment. It's basically the bible.
There's also the fact that the very first thing they did once it was ratified was to change it and it's been changed dozens of times since then. So when it comes to the views of two opposed Americans, which one does the constitution side with?
Lye said: » I'm sure any number of people feel the same way about any number of documents. What makes yours so special? Mine is special to ME. This doesn't change the VALUE of other documents to other people. As an American the Constitution is the most important document. As a Christian American it is the Bible AND the Constitution. As a non American you don't understand the deeper meaning of the constitution you merely see public politics, and maybe if your more informed, maybe you look into trends. But as an outsider the American Revolution and Independance Day just do not have the same meaning. Everything is valuable to those who find them valuable. It is just where you place your priorities. As a Patriotic American I place a high degree of value on the Constitution and yes I do even go as far as to call it a 'living breathing' document. Bismarck.Ihina said: » It's just a document, used as a prop for politicians when it's convenient for them and completely ignored when it's inconvenient. The vast majority of Americans don't even know what's in it other than the first and second amendment. It's basically the bible. There's also the fact that the very first thing they did once it was ratified was to change it and it's been changed dozens of times since then. wow just wow It is not just a document, it is us. shame on politicians who use it as a prop, but that does not change its value. Also shame on americans who do not know about it, but again that doesnt change its value. Those are piss poor arguments. The fact it has been changed proves my point, it is living and breathing BECAUSE it can be changed. I'm American.
Here and your rousing speeches didn't really do much for me. Alas! I guess I' just impervious to the influences of such powerful documents. I'm going to try out for the X-men. Lye said: » So when it comes to the views of two opposed Americans, which one does the constitution side with? if there opposed on the constitution itself then that makes for a debate and the electoral process will decide who to side with is. If its someone who knows the constitution vs someone who has never seen or heard of it, the one who knows the constitution wins. |
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