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 Cerberus.Avalon
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2014-05-09 10:50:11  



I can't wait to see how BST fares against the new NM's coming soon. I'm particularly interested in the frosty feathered NM pictured next to Arciela. At first glance, it appears to be a completely new mob-type.
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By Odin.Phunkism 2014-05-09 14:49:36  
Cerberus.Avalon said: »



I can't wait to see how BST fares against the new NM's coming soon. I'm particularly interested in the frosty feathered NM pictured next to Arciela. At first glance, it appears to be a completely new mob-type.

Reminds me of that flying dog from the neverending story.
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By Gilgamesh.Leeroyjay 2014-05-09 14:57:59  
Faithful Falcorr (called with Lucky Broth)

Which is named after Falkor the Luckdragon from Never-ending Story!
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2014-05-09 14:59:11  
Gilgamesh.Leeroyjay said: »
Faithful Falcorr (called with Lucky Broth)

Which is named after Falkor the Luckdragon from Never-ending Story!

Wow.. I never made that connection before. :o
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2014-05-11 18:36:42  
Cerberus.Avalon said: »



I can't wait to see how BST fares against the new NM's coming soon. I'm particularly interested in the frosty feathered NM pictured next to Arciela. At first glance, it appears to be a completely new mob-type.
It's already in the .dats since February. New Wyrm type.



Via: http://wilddragonchase.blogspot.sg/2014/02/ffxi-february-18th-version-update-dat.html
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By ritch 2014-05-11 19:11:35  
The feather dragon is in the mission cut scenes already.
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By Seraph.Koroma 2014-05-11 21:01:02  



Unicorn Wyrm!....


err.... Quadcorn Wyrm!
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-05-14 19:27:07  
For poops & grins, we just tried out AA MR on Difficult with BST, 2 PUP, 2 SMN, COR setup. All used the new Pet Job foods, and COR was using the upgraded Puppet Roll. Needless to say.....

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By Cerberus.Avalon 2014-05-15 08:44:37  
Shiva.Siviard said: »
For poops & grins, we just tried out AA MR on Difficult with BST, 2 PUP, 2 SMN, COR setup. All used the new Pet Job foods, and COR was using the upgraded Puppet Roll. Needless to say.....


Great job. This may mean doing MR on E or perhaps even N (with high accuracy build) might be doable now. MR on E is possible now prior to the new food, but there's much whiffing involved too.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-05-15 08:57:07  
Cerberus.Avalon said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
For poops & grins, we just tried out AA MR on Difficult with BST, 2 PUP, 2 SMN, COR setup. All used the new Pet Job foods, and COR was using the upgraded Puppet Roll. Needless to say.....


Great job. This may mean doing MR on E or perhaps even N (with high accuracy build) might be doable now. MR on E is possible now prior to the new food, but there's much whiffing involved too.

We did try AA EV on Difficult after this, but wiped. The BST (Torias) in the party for our AA MR Difficult win had to log for the evening, and we couldn't find another 119 BST (or even a 117 BST) in the LS that could come do the fight. So instead, we rolled with a 117 SMN. 2 PUP 3 SMN 1 COR. But there were serious hate issues flying around, and EV's Arrogance Incarnate was quickly destroying all of our pets. We did manage to get her to pop Benediction and got her down to 38% before hate & Deus Ex timers became an issue. IMHO, if we had a BST there, it would have been a pretty easy win.

So, it should go without saying, having at least 1 BST there is of the utmost importance, primarily for hate stability when other pets die off and have to be re-summoned.
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By kenshynofshiva 2014-05-15 08:58:21  
New food looks cheap to make at first glance peeps charging crazy lol:


Shiromochi
Cooking Rank Adept:
Fire Crystal
1x Sticky Rice
1x Cornstarch
1x Distilled Water

Foodeffect works on player and pet
HP +20
VIT +3
Acc +14% (cap: 70 / pet cap: 140???)

Kusamochi
Cooking Rank Adept
Fire Crystal
1x Sticky Rice
1x Mugwort
1x Cornstarch
1x Distilled Water

Foodeffect works on player and pet
HP +20
VIT +3
Att +16~17% (cap: 72 / pet cap: 113)
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By Siren.Attaxia 2014-05-17 06:54:15  


Easy Taru down.

Edit: The biggest obstacle in this fight is dealing enough damage without hurting yourself too much on it's blaze spikes (45 damage per hit). I used DroopyDortwin using Wild Carrot exclusively and 20 X-potions. /NIN for Utsu to nullify Amon drive, shadow maintenance is very simple and easy since it doesn't use it very quickly after the last.

Next time I'll try using stay on a pet in the center of the arena so that I can use /DNC for easy HP maintenance. Since Amon drive is an AoE based around the target I will be able to avoid without the use of shadows. The only foreseeable problem is enmity.
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By Asura.Felgarr 2014-05-17 07:18:58  
Thank you for sharing your efforts as BST on various difficulties. I personally appreciate it!
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By Ravenn42 2014-05-17 11:14:21  
You think a 119 bst with a bard mule could manage normal mithra?
0/16 on VE for any gear so far and I'm getting frustrated.
I have a another account and it has all jobs 99 so any combo of job that I could do to get to normal level for a better drop rate?
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By Odin.Phunkism 2014-05-17 12:34:05  
Siren.Attaxia said: »


Easy Taru down.

Edit: The biggest obstacle in this fight is dealing enough damage without hurting yourself too much on it's blaze spikes (45 damage per hit). I used DroopyDortwin using Wild Carrot exclusively and 20 X-potions. /NIN for Utsu to nullify Amon drive, shadow maintenance is very simple and easy since it doesn't use it very quickly after the last.

For these types of fights where you use meds I've switched almost completely to Coalition Potion. Cost 2500 bayld, 200 hp 1 seconds recast and can carry as many you want.

Ravenn42 said: »
You think a 119 bst with a bard mule could manage normal mithra?
0/16 on VE for any gear so far and I'm getting frustrated.
I have a another account and it has all jobs 99 so any combo of job that I could do to get to normal level for a better drop rate?

I messed around with Normal mithra a month ago and I remember I was having accuracy issues with 1018 acc on my bst. I got her down to about 65% after 15 minutes and warped out. Acc issues would be solved with brd and if your brd goes nin sub you can keep him melee'ing with your bst and it would be a straight forward duo. You'll probably need carry 15+ dawns on your bst.
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By Siren.Attaxia 2014-05-18 16:20:17  
Thanks for the tip on the Coalition potions, I didn't know about those. They're pretty cool mostly for how fast they go off vs x-potions.

My first attempt, even though I won, was pretty messy so I tried Easy mode Taru another three times using different strategies:

The first time I used /DNC and used stay on the pet to keep it in the center of the arena. As expected, there were enmity issues and I got killed pretty quickly.

The second time I DCd upon entrance and it kicked me out. Would not recommend this strategy.

The third time I used a Beatific Shield, Nocturnus Mail and Shadow ring to minimise Blaze Spikes damage. I still used DroopyDortwin this time more offensively, though I did use the odd Wild Carrot when I was low HP. This worked extremely well. Even though my DPS was a lot worse off since I wasn't Dual Wielding, I ended up killing it much faster than my first attempt and used a lot less meds (10 coalition potions).
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-06-17 15:12:06  
Has anyone tested out any BST AA solo's since the June Update? I'm at work right now so can't test it myself, but I'm curious to know how the changes to weapon skills has affected AA difficulty, especially since SE noted this as a known issue:

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Due to the adjustments to weapon skills in this patch, certain monsters have erroneously had their corresponding weapon skills increased in damage.
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By Odin.Phunkism 2014-06-17 16:21:40  
The only thing that comes to mind is cloudsplitter from MR. I did some primal rends last night before going to bed and it seems on par with onslaught. If cloudsplitter got a similar buff it could be a problem. I don't see it oneshotting your pet though so if your willing to use the resources everything should be solo able as normal.
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By Bahamut.Darksouls 2014-06-23 22:15:48  
MR (EASY) cloudsplitter constantly did 1298 dmg on my bird (No DT set) and I realized I used more muslem than before. Anyone else notice the difference?
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By Ophannus 2014-08-10 11:26:15  
As SE said before, many mob TP moves that are named the exact same as player versions are in fact different. MR's Cloudsplitter is one of these because evern before the WS update for players, her Cloudsplitter could still do over 2k and one would need a lot more than a crapload of MAB to hit 2k with that WS. I didn't notice much diff taking damage from Cloudsplitter while tanking her. At least nowhere near the significant difference between old and new cloudsplitter for BST players.
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By Nazrious 2014-08-11 12:21:30  
A well geared Duo can maybe take out HM Normal have yet to do it, just be on point with shadows and bring about 10 Dawns each
and food.

on two normal attempts once timed at 15% (was not well geared at the time) second attempt the other bst missed a circle blade in his chat and didnt get his shadows up on time. This time we had a thf to try an get TH up but this fight ended quickly.

When I got some spare Merits and time will try it again. I'm sure a trio can take him down NP or a combo of Bst Bst Smn. Things can get hairy when he starts to spam at lower health.

The two times

Me with Raaz
Friend with Tulfaire

Second time

Me with HQ Raaz ( much better for taking those circle blades and some quick tanking when needed)
Friend with Tulfaire.

We used Shiromochi for food

Seriously tho
Two pimped out Bsts
Both with HQ Tulfaires is probably a better option since the Raaz's damage was not strikingly higher and that -slash really really helps.

Just my two cents hope it helps.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-08-13 03:22:21  
Howdy folks! Long time, no post!

I know this is the BST forum, but since most of us here are pet job specialists, I figured I'd post this here. We JUST finished doing this too. AA MR on difficult with a sort of "hybrid" set up of half standard jobs, half pet jobs. PLD, PUP x3, COR, GEO

The Eva. Down from GEO helped tremendously btw. The GEO also main cured the PLD, and when MR got below 25% (Cloudsplitter spam) the PUPs also subbed /WHM for backup cures while the GEO kept Indi-Refresh up. It saved the day.

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By Nazrious 2014-08-13 04:23:21  
Thanks for the Geo info thats interesting to note Cus MRs eva is main reason wouldn't try to low man her on normal+
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-08-13 14:42:38  
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Thanks for the Geo info thats interesting to note Cus MRs eva is main reason wouldn't try to low man her on normal+

Another thing that also helps, at first, MR summoned a Mandy, and we noticed that it was spamming it's Sleepga move, which was killing our DPS. So we killed it off, and when MR then summoned a Tiger, that's when the DPS really kicked in.

Para from Tiger is nowhere near the DPS killer that Sleepga is. Much easier to deal with.

Also, regarding bringing along a GEO for your pet setups, it's highly recommended you take a PLD to tank. GEO is just like SMN, anything it casts within range will pull hate. We learned that the hard way on our first attempt.
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By Nazrious 2014-08-13 15:10:48  
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Nazrious said: »
Thanks for the Geo info thats interesting to note Cus MRs eva is main reason wouldn't try to low man her on normal+

Another thing that also helps, at first, MR summoned a Mandy, and we noticed that it was spamming it's Sleepga move, which was killing our DPS. So we killed it off, and when MR then summoned a Tiger, that's when the DPS really kicked in.

Para from Tiger is nowhere near the DPS killer that Sleepga is. Much easier to deal with.

Also, regarding bringing along a GEO for your pet setups, it's highly recommended you take a PLD to tank. GEO is just like SMN, anything it casts within range will pull hate. We learned that the hard way on our first attempt.


Well normally we go in and let one of the Pets cement hate before going full out. as far as mandy is concerned you can not really fight MR with her mandy out if you are low manning with Bst. Mandy Sleep + her Havoc Spiral is a viscious cycle. AAs on bst is all about shadows don't let em drop or you are sure too drop. One of the reasons u bring remedies to that fight otherwise you get boned with recasting shadows or have to run out and try to get em up then run back in. DPS is a secondary concern in regards to surviving the fight. I'm pretty sure if the geo took it easy there wouldn't be hate issues. Still would be interesting to see what a Bstx4(5) (cor) geo setup could accomplish given how eva is MRs only real survival mechanic.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-08-13 15:41:28  
Nazrious said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Nazrious said: »
Thanks for the Geo info thats interesting to note Cus MRs eva is main reason wouldn't try to low man her on normal+

Another thing that also helps, at first, MR summoned a Mandy, and we noticed that it was spamming it's Sleepga move, which was killing our DPS. So we killed it off, and when MR then summoned a Tiger, that's when the DPS really kicked in.

Para from Tiger is nowhere near the DPS killer that Sleepga is. Much easier to deal with.

Also, regarding bringing along a GEO for your pet setups, it's highly recommended you take a PLD to tank. GEO is just like SMN, anything it casts within range will pull hate. We learned that the hard way on our first attempt.


Well normally we go in and let one of the Pets cement hate before going full out. as far as mandy is concerned you can not really fight MR with her mandy out if you are low manning with Bst. Mandy Sleep + her Havoc Spiral is a viscious cycle. AAs on bst is all about shadows don't let em drop or you are sure too drop. One of the reasons u bring remedies to that fight otherwise you get boned with recasting shadows or have to run out and try to get em up then run back in. DPS is a secondary concern in regards to surviving the fight. I'm pretty sure if the geo took it easy there wouldn't be hate issues. Still would be interesting to see what a Bstx4(5) (cor) geo setup could accomplish given how eva is MRs only real survival mechanic.

Only problem would be if your pets still don't have enough accuracy to do damage and hold hate from the GEO.
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By Nazrious 2014-08-17 00:20:26  
Bst can supplement pet hat with snarl. Really not sure how much hate a Geo generates from just debuffs but overall dps would have too be really bad I'd imagine if pets were not holding hate sufficiently.
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By Shiva.Onionknight 2014-08-17 13:15:19  
At this point there still is a bug with pet hate. It has a high decayrate atm compared to player hate tools. Snarl will work, but the only problem with MR difficult is getting enough Accuracy on the beastmaster to hit the MR versus wearing other gear that the pet needs to help surviving.
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By Nazrious 2014-08-18 09:23:48  
Shiva.Onionknight said: »
At this point there still is a bug with pet hate. It has a high decayrate atm compared to player hate tools. Snarl will work, but the only problem with MR difficult is getting enough Accuracy on the beastmaster to hit the MR versus wearing other gear that the pet needs to help surviving.


Well only one bst would need the pdt for pet tank other can n should go full Dps. Its ok if the AA turns to the other pet they wont one shot it. And if timed a bst can let loose with there ruinator just b4 snarl to keep stuff going smooth.
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By Shiva.Onionknight 2014-08-18 11:19:01  
It might work. Al you have to worry about then is doing enough damage to kill the Difficult AA. Give it a try. I would love to see pictures of wins :) . It would give more pet jobs some incentive to team up and kill stuff. Lately it feels like the pet community in FFXI isnt trying for new stuff.
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