Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-07-06 19:01:45  
Far be it from me to try to interject logic, but not a single one of the torques are worth what they'll cost to make. Like it's cool to cast 1 less erase and one less dispel. is it like... 200m cool tho?

The augments better be astronomical. (think ambuscade capes)
 
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By Asura.Toralin 2018-07-06 19:16:31  
I would say 200m for a +2 on the low end and the ones that are good 300-400m. Although the rdm and whm groupies aren’t exactly the ones who will “pay for anything”. There is plenty people sitting on 20+ billion from shields

Just my .02
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-07-06 21:03:55  
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Putting my bets on the torques wont be augmentable, only the weapons.
SE has already confirmed that the torques will be augmentable.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-07-07 03:41:24  
First +2 100m (WHM)

Expected them to shoot (much) higher
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By Ragnarok.Phuoc 2018-07-07 04:48:08  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
First +2 100m (WHM)

Expected them to shoot (much) higher

Whm isn't that great at plus 2 anyway but I'm impressed someone sold it that low, expecting 300m on these plus 2 at least, it isn't escutcheon playground so the synth is expensive as f lol.
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By Asura.Topace 2018-07-07 07:24:43  
Some would be stupid to pay 100M for a +2 I'm not buying any damn torques till I see the augments.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-07-07 09:04:06  
I might consider the +2 RDM one for 100m if it went up. I dunno.
 
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By Ragnarok.Phuoc 2018-07-07 13:47:51  
DirectX said: »
2nd WHM+2 sold for 300M

Now that's a more normal price range imo.
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2018-07-07 14:36:03  
Move this discussion elsewhere. No one gives a ***about the how much the whm neck is selling for on the SAM thread.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-07-08 08:06:17  
DirectX said: »
I bought the neck for 18m. Hope it doesn't tank in price

It'll be 2m in a week. Never learn.
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By Lakshmi.Ashtopcat 2018-07-08 11:02:53  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
DirectX said: »
I bought the neck for 18m. Hope it doesn't tank in price

It'll be 2m in a week. Never learn.

lolEU
 
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By Cerberus.Genoside 2018-07-08 12:13:55  
Is there more updated gear sets to reference? I feel like there are better options now, does anyone have a link to newer sets, kind of new to using forum guides.
 
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By Afania 2018-07-08 12:40:20  
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Everyone's going to tell you to just look up Ejiin on Ragnarok until he quits, and if you want progressive sets to work towards well gl on figuring that one out on your own, the community only cares about the best gear you can possibly wear and doesn't take into account new people.


Bg wiki guide has progression.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Samurai!_A_Community_Collaborative_Guide
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2018-07-08 12:43:40  
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Everyone's going to tell you to just look up Ejiin on Ragnarok until he quits, and if you want progressive sets to work towards well gl on figuring that one out on your own, the community only cares about the best gear you can possibly wear and doesn't take into account new people.

If you have a relic and and mythic and somehow cannot figure out how to gear up properly on your own...you are doing something terribly wrong. It's unhelpful comments like this that make the people trying to keep up the guide heading for the hills.

Should look into Foxfire's guide on BG (you know, the "mediocre" one). It is a good source for where to start and where to finish. Everything in between is based on your gear. So some choices will have to be made by you.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Samurai!_A_Community_Collaborative_Guide

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By Foxfire 2018-07-08 13:34:01  
gotta link it like this, fwiw

always up for recommendations

recommendations that aren't a lua because that's already on the list and I am incredibly lazy

also, if you have questions of in-betweens based on the sets on the guide, we're here to provide recommendations, but the guide at least provides you a baseline
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By kestiel 2018-07-08 20:40:40  
FFXIAH search function seems to be failing me atm, so I apologize for the kinda dumb question but: Why is Fotia Gorget/Belt listed at the best neck/belt?

Does that also apply to Fudo? I assumed there was a better neck, considering how high Fudo's fTP is, and by the same measure how little of a boost the 0.1 (or 0.2 for both belt/neck) would provide. The rest of the WS I get as their fTP is considerably lower, but Fudo seems like an outlier.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-07-08 20:45:21  
The waist and neck slots are quite weak when it comes to WS options compared to other slots (so there's not much competition), and the 1% chance to spend 0 TP pushes them over the edge.
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-07-08 20:48:13  
It's still a 3% increase even a bit above 2k TP, while also giving some extra accuracy/Conserve TP/Undepleted TP.
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By kestiel 2018-07-08 21:46:29  
Thanks for the clarification, really appreciate getting a better understanding!
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2018-07-09 07:07:11  
Now that accuracy sets are actually pretty critical in Wave3 Dynamis, I went through and cleaned up my accuracy sets for SAM.

Masa TP Low
Masa TP Mid
Masa TP Mod
Masa TP High
Masa TP Max
ItemSet 266064ItemSet 323893ItemSet 323894ItemSet 323895ItemSet 353088
1204 Accuracy
1225 Accuracy
1269 Accuracy
1299 Accuracy
1322 Accuracy


Looking at it, It's pretty crazy how much offensive stats SAM retains while in high tiers of accuracy.
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By Foxfire 2018-07-09 07:14:26  
we never did figure out what that last bit of discrepancy in accuracy was, did we?
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2018-07-09 07:20:48  
Yeah, don't expect accuracy values to exactly match. The spirit of the sets are to incrementally increase accuracy while maintaining as much DPS as possible.

Technically the Max set could go even higher if you're willing to drop Flamma +2 for AF+3, but that's probably overkill.
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By Foxfire 2018-07-09 08:54:37  
I've tweaked the accuracy sets to your changes on the wiki guide, as well.
 
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-07-10 10:17:13  
Max accuracy sets are for when stuff starts to go wrong, and you don't have the necessary accuracy buffs for the content you're doing.
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