Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

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 Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-02-26 07:46:18  
It depends on the ratio of MAB over WSD. 1:1, certainly no.
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By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-02-26 12:52:05  
Valorous Mask (ACC+19 ATK+24 WSD+4%) V.S. Valorous Mask (ACC+26 WSD+5%)?

Wondering if the 1% more is worth losing the ATK+

Any suggestions?

ItemSet 338051

Gonna Re-do body / feet and see if I can get better.

Head (ACC+19 ATK+24 WSD+4%) (Currently)
Hands (STR+3 ACC+7 ATK+4 WSD+5%)
Body (STR+5 ACC+17 WSD+4%)
Feet (ACC+17 ATK+13 WSD+4%)

Mantle (STR+30 ACC+20 ATK+20 WSD+10%)

Check Param FUDO:

Primary ACC 1057
Primary ATK 1339
EVA 767
DEF 1183
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2018-02-26 13:55:25  
I'd go with the latter solely because of the extra accuracy. It'd probably be okay to carry the other around when you aren't capped attack but I can't imagine them being more than a few points apart in damage.
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By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-02-26 14:16:59  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
I'd go with the latter solely because of the extra accuracy. It'd probably be okay to carry the other around when you aren't capped attack but I can't imagine them being more than a few points apart in damage.

So always focus on ACC / WSD+ rather than ATK / WSD+?

got an augment on feet but didn't take it (ACC+3 ATK+23 WSD+5%) thought would hurt to get that much less ACC, and seems I was correct.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2018-02-26 14:21:59  
Odin.Kuroganashi said: »
Valorous Mask (ACC+19 ATK+24 WSD+4%) V.S. Valorous Mask (ACC+26 WSD+5%)?

Wondering if the 1% more is worth losing the ATK+

Any suggestions?

ItemSet 338051

Gonna Re-do body / feet and see if I can get better.

Head (ACC+19 ATK+24 WSD+4%) (Currently)
Hands (STR+3 ACC+7 ATK+4 WSD+5%)
Body (STR+5 ACC+17 WSD+4%)
Feet (ACC+17 ATK+13 WSD+4%)

Mantle (STR+30 ACC+20 ATK+20 WSD+10%)

Check Param FUDO:

Primary ACC 1057
Primary ATK 1339
EVA 767
DEF 1183

I would also go for the extra accuracy. Nothing stings more than seeing a missed Fudo imo. And it happens way more than it should. My goal is to have all of my Valorous have 30+ acc when I'm finished.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-26 15:01:56  
The first piece should solidly win in almost any circumstance other than attack capped. Adding 24 attack to ~1300 is an almost 2% increase, and 1% WSDMG will be a significantly less than a 1% increase with as much WSDMG you have elsewhere.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-02-26 15:29:12  
Trying for more WSD the other day and got this -

name="Valorous Mask", augments={'Accuracy+28','Weapon skill damage +3%','STR+15',}},

I feel comfortable with this to a certain degree as I am aiming for 30acc on each piece as well - Wondering what would beat this
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2018-02-26 16:02:20  
Asura.Geriond said: »
The first piece should solidly win in almost any circumstance other than attack capped. Adding 24 attack to ~1300 is an almost 2% increase, and 1% WSDMG will be a significantly less than a 1% increase with as much WSDMG you have elsewhere.

While there is absolutely nothing factually wrong with what you said, he's sitting at 1057 (1077 with fotia stats) base acc. That's a little low imo. The extra 7 acc offers 3.5% hit rate, which fudo definitely seems to need anecdotally.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-02-26 16:06:12  
first hit has an accuracy bonus of at least 100
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-26 16:08:50  
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Asura.Geriond said: »
The first piece should solidly win in almost any circumstance other than attack capped. Adding 24 attack to ~1300 is an almost 2% increase, and 1% WSDMG will be a significantly less than a 1% increase with as much WSDMG you have elsewhere.

While there is absolutely nothing factually wrong with what you said, he's sitting at 1057 (1077 with fotia stats) base acc. That's a little low imo. The extra 7 acc offers 3.5% hit rate, which fudo definitely seems to need anecdotally.
That's still 1177 on the first hit, before hasso/food/songs/vorseals/etc, which is pretty good for most stuff.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2018-02-26 16:12:39  
I thought that Fudo was exempted from the +100 acc first hit rule?

Regardless, I personally don't have a very difference set from the op, and I miss fudo more than I'd like (I'm fairly certain I don't cap acc on fudo, but I haven't parsed it). I made my recommendation, which I stand by. It is just my opinion. I'd take a loss of ~<1% max damage for a 3.5% hit rate boost.

Ultimately, he'd replace with a piece that has +STR and WSD on it anyway, so may be moot.

Edit: Fudo doesn't get an attack boost like Gekko, still gets acc boost. My bad.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-26 16:19:30  
Two handed weapons have a hard cap of 95% hit rate, and our human biases make the misses stand out in our minds a heck of a lot more than all the hits. For single hit WSs, it can very well feel like we're uncapped when we're actually not.

There is definitely stuff that 1180 effective accuracy won't be enough on, especially if lacking outside acc buffs or sufficient acc/acc++/dex vorseals, but for the majority of content, that's plenty.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-26 16:23:16  
Wakido+3 legs or Hiza+2? difference is 3 wsd, 5 acc, 13 attack vs 6 str. Assuming its the former but with as much wsd sam gets, maybe I'm off (I'm asking btw)
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-02-26 16:24:59  
Former should stomp.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-02-26 16:26:58  
That's what I thought, was wondering why the set had hiza instead.
By Odin.Kuroganashi 2018-02-26 16:37:21  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
That's what I thought, was wondering why the set had hiza instead.

Cuz I have yet to make my AF+1 ~> +2 ~> +3 legs for SAM ^^; (I will when I get the funds for it)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-12 19:17:57  
updated my sim with new body and legs, if it wasn't obvious body is pretty good ws piece

also raetic doesn't have the additional hit mechanic yet, i'm too lazy to add MP to all the existing gear
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By Foxfire 2018-03-14 20:18:50  
i hadn't logged onto AH until today pls don't hurt me austar zzzzz

i was just wondering the validity of +3 vs. valor if your valor somehow gets max acc augment on those occasional fights where you need the acc (t4s, whatever) or if it's just not worth investing anymore

that's all

i'll look at your sim now pls do not blow a fuse ilu
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-14 20:22:24  
+3 is a good amount better
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By Foxfire 2018-03-14 20:23:56  
yeah, thought as much
guess i can bench valor if i can get the +3 quick enough
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-03-14 20:33:58  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
updated my sim with new body and legs, if it wasn't obvious body is pretty good ws piece

also raetic doesn't have the additional hit mechanic yet, i'm too lazy to add MP to all the existing gear
As an easier alternative to calculating MP on the fly, you could have a box on the Setup sheet that you input your max MP into.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-14 20:36:37  
i'm just too lazy to do much to it atm since i plan to rewrite it with some new stuff from other ones i've been working on
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-03-14 20:45:13  
If you ever get around to revamping the spreadsheet to incorporate Raetic weapons, mind sending me a PM on how you managed to implement it into the spreadsheet?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-14 20:46:30  
i don't use the spreadsheets, I use my own simulations.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-03-14 20:48:56  
Oh whoops, misread your original post about adding Raetic.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-14 20:51:55  
raetic wouldn't be hard to add, though. base mp of 150, then just add vorseal total and add to gear. I already have the function for it in other sims, I'm just lazy. handles both raetic effects properly too.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2018-03-14 22:56:43  
Hey guys, returning SAM after 5 years. On me right now are a 119 (non-AG) Amano and a Tsurumaru. What are some reasonable GKTs to aim for that I could lowman/trusts to replace these with?

Is the JSE Kurikaranotachi even worth pursuing (about 1.5-1.8mil worth of items on my server right now) or should I stick with a Tsurumaru until replacing it with something else? Cehuetzi Claws keep increasing in price here and would rather buy them for other jobs if I could skip SAM's.

Thanks
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By Ramuh.Austar 2018-03-14 23:07:53  
Ichigohitofuri
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By Carbuncle.Spiketaru 2018-03-15 00:15:43  
Got my hands on a Doji and in the process of building Masa, so I thought I'd revise my TP set. I could use some advice.

ItemSet 357348

I know Masa benefits greatly from stacking multi-hit, but should I stick with primarily STP for Doji?

Mostly asking:
Cessance+Brutal vs Telos+Dedition
Smertrios' w/ DA vs Takaha
Various NQ Kendatsuba equips vs what I have now
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By Foxfire 2018-03-19 11:08:27  
Carbuncle.Spiketaru said: »
Got my hands on a Doji and in the process of building Masa, so I thought I'd revise my TP set. I could use some advice.

ItemSet 357348

I know Masa benefits greatly from stacking multi-hit, but should I stick with primarily STP for Doji?

Mostly asking:
Cessance+Brutal vs Telos+Dedition
Smertrios' w/ DA vs Takaha
Various NQ Kendatsuba equips vs what I have now
I'm by no means an expert, but
Honestly, it depends on what you're fighting and what accuracy checks you're trying to satisfy. As it stands, you're on the lower end of accuracy, so for a zerg where you don't care about acc, you're good.

If we're going by that set, specifically, I think you'd get more benefit from a Flamma Ring > Petrov
for telos/dedi v. cessance/brutal, i honestly believe it's up to your acc requirements.
and I definitely recommend Smertrios > Takaha.

As for alternatives w/ more acc, I'd tell you to compare to Ejin's sets -

ItemSet 266064

NQ Kendatsuba gear is fine in these sorts of sets.

As an additional point, I'd tell you to use Austar's sim to gauge what sort of TP gain you're getting (as well as any applicable scenarios you'd be participating in e.g. low buffs) and then use that to tweak your gear as necessary.

...again, i'm no expert, i hope others can correct me.
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