Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

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 Quetzalcoatl.Evildgnker
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By Quetzalcoatl.Evildgnker 2017-10-25 09:25:34  
Thank you very much // now I have an idea of what to aim for.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-25 17:48:59  
I have rana and shoha in my sim added but no call of the function yet, but i can work on that sometime tonight and tomorrow.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-26 10:34:05  
small update:
added fotia tp return chance
sorted gear my name so it's easier to see instead of the random order I had before

cleaned up some redundant code

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7LcJujrpsg-SXI4eHFaRnZIZk0/view?usp=sharing
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 10:45:19  
So, I'm pretty close to having a Doji and I'm working out my TP/WS sets, and I have a few questions, because I don't seem to be able to make things line up.

I was thinking that I would see if I could get ryuo hakama out of my TP set in favor of kendatsuba hakama. Which I seem to be able to do for now, since I don't have the rings from Fu or Ou. My problem is, I'm at exactly a 4 hit build here, so when I do get Regal or Niq Rings, I can't use them without losing my hit build.

Here is what I've got currently (minus the Doji). Can I get some advice?

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ItemSet 354068

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ItemSet 354069
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-10-31 11:03:09  
With flamma ring use flamma Armor piece or use a diff ring, Suzaku ring or Omen one
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-10-31 11:03:59  
for ws you wont want to use flamma ring, you have no gear to get the set bonus. If you NEED that 5 stp, use rajas. You will also not use the illabrat ring anyhow once you get either of the omen rings (and realistically will use regal+niq for 0 stp), so I would start now gearing for that day. This in turn might change up some of your tp gear decisions because of the now extra stp needed, but theres a lot of room for improvement so no worries!

easy STP gains:
1.) moonlight nodawa (its overall cheap now, could get in a day or 2 of heavy farming, or week of casual) for +2 stp

2.) Telos earring (most sell for 20m now, not a base choice) + 4 stp

3.) I would get a cessance earring too and replace the digi in normal "low acc" aka 95% of game sets.

4.) Chirich+1 is a very expensive +1 stp, but if it keeps you xhit, it will be worth it and price has dropped over half lately.

overall those 3 changes I think are enough to make the difference and easily had within a week of work. Good set keep it up!
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 11:08:38  
I'm sorry, I should have had petrov ring there. I need the STP to maintain the 4-hit. That is the crux of my problem. I want to get away from having to use +10 STP in my ring slots so that when I get Regal/Niq Rings I'll be able to use those.

1. I've been stocking up on mats for this. I can see if I can HQ (rather have a signed one anyway).

2. Cessance has been.... stingy. I'll keep working on it. I have a group that can kill WoC, so I probably won't pay for a Telos, but its on my list anyway.

3. I can farm for that if necessary, but I'm wanting to get away without rings.

My source of gil has pretty much dried up. Smithing is in a nose dive at the moment for profit with shields coming online.

I know the general thought is farming gil is easy, and it generally is, but playtime is a consideration, and I frankly don't have a lot, so it won't be a week. Maybe a month or two.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-10-31 11:22:02  
ya there changes I listed would net you 7 stp, enough to drop them. Theres really not many other ways unless your dropping tons of multi hit (going back to ryou legs or to the 13stp mantle, etc). Once you get your levele of gear thats just the reality of it, top end sets demand HQ's etc $$
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-10-31 11:28:11  
IF and only if your accuracy is not an issue, can get the earring with STP+8 and -10 to about everything else, Dedition earring until you get the HTB one.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-10-31 11:35:33  
Looking at your current item sets, you have 64 STP (assuming 10 STP back) which puts you 7 over STP needed for a 4-hit (57.) You're 3 away from a 3 hit with SAM roll 7, already at one with SAM >8 or lucky. Get rid of the dignitary earring for dedition earring and this set will work under all conditions. Swapping in an STP5 earring (maybe Telos? I know you said you don't have one) over Brutal will keep your 3 hit as well once you get Niqmaddu.

I would use at least Ifrit Ring/Shukuyu Ring until you get Regal/Niqmaddu for WS.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 11:54:16  
back is 10% DA not STP
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-10-31 12:00:33  
You don't have a 3 or 4 hit then. I personally didn't even bother with 10 DA because the difference in damage between 10 DA and 10 STP is very little for SAM, and the 10 STP on back allows for a lot more flexibility on your other slots. I know some people carry both though.
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By Asura.Fiasko 2017-10-31 12:42:00  
I am using almost the same set as yours Shadow but Niqmaddu/Ilabrat and STP augment on my back. When you are master and using the same WS set that you already have, you land on a 4 hit with 1002 TP.

ItemSet 351918

ItemSet 351919
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By Asura.Fiasko 2017-10-31 13:01:39  
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
You don't have a 3 or 4 hit then. I personally didn't even bother with 10 DA because the difference in damage between 10 DA and 10 STP is very little for SAM, and the 10 STP on back allows for a lot more flexibility on your other slots. I know some people carry both though.

Randomly is that with Regal Neck or just the ring?
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-10-31 13:15:56  
why aug an ambu cape with stp if you have 3 more on the wkr capes? Is it just an acc thing? I would think that extra 3 stp coupled with moonlights 2 stp would be great to allow you make a few swaps fr more multi attack?
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-10-31 13:23:03  
Asura.Fiasko said: »
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
You don't have a 3 or 4 hit then. I personally didn't even bother with 10 DA because the difference in damage between 10 DA and 10 STP is very little for SAM, and the 10 STP on back allows for a lot more flexibility on your other slots. I know some people carry both though.

Randomly is that with Regal Neck or just the ring?

I believe it was based off of having the neck, but I can't remember...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-31 13:25:43  
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
So, I'm pretty close to having a Doji and I'm working out my TP/WS sets, and I have a few questions, because I don't seem to be able to make things line up.

I was thinking that I would see if I could get ryuo hakama out of my TP set in favor of kendatsuba hakama. Which I seem to be able to do for now, since I don't have the rings from Fu or Ou. My problem is, I'm at exactly a 4 hit build here, so when I do get Regal or Niq Rings, I can't use them without losing my hit build.

Here is what I've got currently (minus the Doji). Can I get some advice?

TP:
ItemSet 354068

WS:
ItemSet 354069
kasuga domaru +1 is a really underrated piece and would allow you several more options in other slots
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 13:31:09  
I have Kasuga Domaru +1, and Wakido Domaru +3, and a pretty decent Augment on Valorous Mail for TP (8 STR 20 acc 25 atk 4 DA) that I can use in a pinch, but Kendatsuba Samue is pretty much BiS if you don't need the STP.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-31 13:33:38  
you can’t look at it piece by piece. using domaru is a pretty small downgrade stand alone but an increase when you factor in other swaps available, particularly on your ws options
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By Asura.Fiasko 2017-10-31 13:38:53  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
why aug an ambu cape with stp if you have 3 more on the wkr capes? Is it just an acc thing? I would think that extra 3 stp coupled with moonlights 2 stp would be great to allow you make a few swaps fr more multi attack?

For me and SAM it is an opportunity cost thing. 80M for the neck isn't something I want to do right now. If we add 5STP from neck and back we could swap feet to Su3 or ring to Hetairoi.

The trade off doesn't seem worth it to me yet. (I want to build a few more REMA first, etc.)

Ramuh.Austar said: »
kasuga domaru +1 is a really underrated piece and would allow you several more options in other slots

What would that open up that is an upgrade? Su3 feet, both rings?

I am not sure he is using the WS rings for the STP but rather a lack of other options available to him.
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By Taint 2017-10-31 13:39:50  
kasuga domaru +1

+12 zanshin is 3% zan-hasso? Issues would be the lack off acc, but I could see the +2/3 version being excellent if we ever see it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-31 13:42:00  
considering one has no strength and the other has minimal, yes he’s using it for the store tp. it frees up several options for tp as well.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 13:47:14  
Yes, I'm using both for the STP. With my current WS Set, I'll only need 54 STP in my TP set for 4 hit, which I have exactly in my current TP set. Once I get Niq/Regal Rings, I'll need 57 for 4 hit.
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-10-31 13:52:19  
Depending on your valorous augments, it may be advisable to use Flamma ring+Gambieras for WS.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 14:02:12  
Nah, I have decent augs on all my Valorous for WS
Head: 8 STR, 18 acc, 24 atk, 4% WSD
Body: 9 STR, 27 acc, 14 atk, 3% WSD
Hands: 7 VIT, 24 acc, 10 atk, 4% WSD
Feet: 7 STR, 25 acc, 12 atk, 3% WSD

MA on fudo is really lackluster.
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2017-10-31 14:04:34  
Really, the easiest option for you right now is to get a Dedition Earring, imo.
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By Asura.Sanosuke 2017-10-31 14:13:36  
Are you Master in Sam? the stp from gifts might also be what you need
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-10-31 14:14:52  
I was counting the STP gifts already.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-31 19:12:00  
just an example for you, I used your current TP set except with HQ ken and neck:

Simulated Average: dojikiri_yasutsuna 5915.91 (WS : 25062.4 )
AA Percent: 0.13 WS Percent: 0.87


then i swapped your body to kasuga, kept the rest the same, but for ws used ifrit +1 and shukuyu:

Simulated Average: dojikiri_yasutsuna 6015.6 (WS : 26019.76 )
AA Percent: 0.13 WS Percent: 0.87
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-10-31 20:45:53  
ItemSet 354079

ItemSet 354080

both are within 1% of each other over a simulated average and one is considerably cheaper. I would lean towards the ken set due to it's superior defensive stats, but domaru +1 is not a terrible option in general, having an Store TP cape instead would also free up several more options.

without sam roll
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