Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

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By Asura.Bippin 2020-05-13 20:46:05  
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Is Sailfi +1 now better than Ioskeha Belt +1 to TP in?
If you don't need the accuracy.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2020-05-14 15:29:46  
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Just curious if the difference between JSE +1 and +2 stats is really worth the upgrade/Gil price?

It's one of those necklaces that's biS for both TP and WS, so yes, +2 is absolutely worth the gil. Having 14STP on one neck slot will also open up a lot more 4-hit possibilities for you.
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By Bahamut.Omegus 2020-05-24 11:04:31  
Would anyone else like to SE change the rice ball effect so you can just use the gear upon eating only?
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2020-05-24 11:45:39  
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Would anyone else like to SE change the rice ball effect so you can just use the gear upon eating only?

Always thought JSE Food would be neat... (maybe once a day or cost 500jp for a stack)
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By Bahamut.Omegus 2020-05-24 11:52:10  
500jp a stack, begone from here before SE reads that and gets idea's.
I just think 8% triple attack 240 attack 160 def would be great.
Although we tp in wakido hote +3 anyway, what if we just full time them it would be 4%TA fulltime VS 5%wsd on weaponskills.
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By Asura.Reidden 2020-05-31 23:02:06  
Who wants to volunteer to update OP?
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By Echodiz 2020-06-01 16:18:33  
Lugra Earring +1 w/ augments from dusk til dawn replace either Thrud or Moonshade outright? Obviously over moonshade at certain tp but I'm wondering otherwise?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2020-06-01 18:47:02  
most ws, no. for something like rana, yes
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-06-05 09:19:35  
Bahamut.Omegus said: »
ItemSet 372525

Been messing with this
Acc 1212
DT21
PDT 35
MDT 28
High meva
Counter 75% (providing seigan/third eye counter stacks with sacro)

Good morning!

Does your backpiece here have DA or STP? What changes would you make if you were using su5 path B? Thank you!
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By Taint 2020-06-05 12:00:33  
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Bahamut.Omegus said: »
ItemSet 372525

Been messing with this
Acc 1212
DT21
PDT 35
MDT 28
High meva
Counter 75% (providing seigan/third eye counter stacks with sacro)

Good morning!

Does your backpiece here have DA or STP? What changes would you make if you were using su5 path B? Thank you!


You'd want DA with that build.

Its also a Seigan build which is a rare need currently.
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2020-06-05 12:02:05  
Taint said: »
Fenrir.Kaldaek said: »
Bahamut.Omegus said: »
ItemSet 372525

Been messing with this
Acc 1212
DT21
PDT 35
MDT 28
High meva
Counter 75% (providing seigan/third eye counter stacks with sacro)

Good morning!

Does your backpiece here have DA or STP? What changes would you make if you were using su5 path B? Thank you!


You'd want DA with that build.

Its also a Seigan build which is a rare need currently.

What would you suggest? I would be tanking on sam if that helps :P
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2020-06-05 13:01:54  
Depends what it is that you're tanking.
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By CerberusFreaky 2020-06-06 01:22:21  
So, the consensus is:
1) Tachi: Jimpu on Dyna-D wave 3 bosses (providing BIS per the community guide on BG wiki - optimum buffs)?
2) /DRG?
3) Sacro Breastplate > Founders Breastplate?
4) Friomisi > Thureous?

Also, the BG wiki guide does not show an Impulse Drive set, anyone have one?
 
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2020-06-08 17:22:33  
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Store TP

People may debate over Meditate vs Zanshin, but personally I prefer Meditate, though Zanshin is clearly superior in fights that last short enough for only 1 Meditate with or without merits (which is admittedly probably everything except Dynamis and Master Trials, though I have Med. merits specifically for Dynamis). Honestly, even though I said I like Meditate, Zanshin is probably better most of the time.
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By Asura.Veikur 2020-06-08 17:46:49  
CerberusFreaky said: »
So, the consensus is:
1) Tachi: Jimpu on Dyna-D wave 3 bosses (providing BIS per the community guide on BG wiki - optimum buffs)?
2) /DRG?
3) Sacro Breastplate > Founders Breastplate?
4) Friomisi > Thureous?

Also, the BG wiki guide does not show an Impulse Drive set, anyone have one?
It'd just be your Fudo set. Use it at or above 2000 TP due to excellent TP scaling.
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-24 12:59:59  
Sup.

Ive been checking the sets in the main page to convince me (or not) if i should invest in a Samurais Nodowa+2. Currently im using Moonlight Nodowa.

The 5 tiers of accuracy shown in the main page says that in the low acc set you use Samurai Nodowa+2 while the subsequent tiers it seems that Fotia is better.

The first question is if there is some trick in the weaponskill accuracy+10, if that stats is just raw +10 acc when wsing or is it a stronger effect, because sam nodowa +2 is +30 acc.

Second question is how viable is to fully use the PDL+10 from the torque in an actual situation against lilith VD, using the eijin sam burn setup. Because in my conception, i supose should be quite hard to meet the pdif cap so pdl can starts kicking but im not sure how high is lilith defense (currently at 4k attack and just entrust frailty, im still adjusting my burning).

Thanks in advance.
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By Taint 2020-06-24 13:17:31  
Worth every penny and the sets aren't all updated. No reason to use Fotia on the big WSs over Sam+2.
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By Siren.Kyte 2020-06-24 13:41:20  
SAM probably got the best neck out of all the DDs

WS accuracy is just regular accuracy (...for WS) and the PDL doesn't need to come into play for SAM+2 to win out.
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By Shiva.Eightball 2020-06-24 15:57:17  
As far as WSs are concerned with Sam nodowa, PDL is more of a bonus while the primary reason for using these for WS is the epic str bonus over FTP bonus on fotia, the generally very high FTP figures on GKT WSs don’t really gain much from an extra .1 ftp where as 25str on an 80% str bonus WS is quite significant.
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By lhova 2020-07-07 11:09:24  
Hello All,

So in regards to WS sets for fudo what content is someone actually using the max acc set? I've been pretty much using the low acc set and currently sam neck +1 but was wondering should I invest in more sakonji gear versus the valorous gear I'm using now. Assuming content with geo buffs, bard songs, rolls etc I wasn't sure if the max set would be needed for things like Omen boss killing and ***. Thank you for any information.
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By Crossbones 2020-07-07 11:15:07  
If you have capped acc in tp set for whatever you're fighting you can afford to lose 100 acc in ws set since ws get 100 acc bonus to the first hit. If your lua has multiple acc sets and all your ws and tp sets are not more than 100 acc apart you should be fine provided you are parsing and keeping track of your hit rate.
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By Asura.Neojuggernautx 2020-07-09 13:02:03  
Was doing some calculations from some of the recent talk on if Stinger Helm +1 at R15 (and lets say max unity buff) was competitive with Valorous head. I did some maths but please correct me if I'm wrong.

With my current Fudo set, I only changed out the head. From what I can tell, the spreadsheets don't factor in damage limit + so I had to do some modifying.

My Valorous augments are Acc+17, Att+17, WSD+6%. I also added in the damage limit + gear from Samurai Nodowa +2 to gauge these numbers.

Samples were taken on DC mobs in Dyna to ensure pDif was capped as well as accuracy. And just so we are all on the same page:
WPN SKILL DMG = Base Damage x pDif

Fudo Set 1 (w/ Valorous) Dmg = 36494/3.95 = 9238 x 4.345 = 40143
Fudo Set 2 (W/ Stinger) Dmg = 33183/3.95 = 8400 x 4.5425 = 38157

Please let me know if my math is flawed but if not, in this situation Stinger is behind by roughly 5%.
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By Taint 2020-07-09 14:45:24  
Stingers use will be Shoha. Attack bonus and multiple hits that all benefit from the extra damage limit.
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By green212 2020-07-09 14:55:15  
Asura.Neojuggernautx said: »
Was doing some calculations from some of the recent talk on if Stinger Helm +1 at R15 (and lets say max unity buff) was competitive with Valorous head. I did some maths but please correct me if I'm wrong.

With my current Fudo set, I only changed out the head. From what I can tell, the spreadsheets don't factor in damage limit + so I had to do some modifying.

My Valorous augments are Acc+17, Att+17, WSD+6%. I also added in the damage limit + gear from Samurai Nodowa +2 to gauge these numbers.

Samples were taken on DC mobs in Dyna to ensure pDif was capped as well as accuracy. And just so we are all on the same page:
WPN SKILL DMG = Base Damage x pDif

Fudo Set 1 (w/ Valorous) Dmg = 36494/3.95 = 9238 x 4.345 = 40143
Fudo Set 2 (W/ Stinger) Dmg = 33183/3.95 = 8400 x 4.5425 = 38157

Please let me know if my math is flawed but if not, in this situation Stinger is behind by roughly 5%.

this is what i got, stinger winning by 2.4%
= floor(( 330 + 23 + 291) × 8) = 5152 x 4.07
= floor(( 330 + 23 + 303) × 8) = 5248 x 4.255
22330 x wsd = x1.50 = 33,495 (stinger)
20968 x wsd = x1.56 = 32,711
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By Bismarck.Zalena 2020-07-12 10:17:27  
Anyone can recommend alternatives for body and gloves? I currently cant obtain the body and gloves in the sets above and I don't know what I can use until then. Thanks for the help!
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By Viciouss 2020-07-12 10:20:07  
body and gloves for what ? TP, WS, DT?
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By Bismarck.Zalena 2020-07-12 10:20:44  
Viciouss said: »
body and gloves for what ? TP, WS, DT?

WS and TP at the least
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By Viciouss 2020-07-12 10:32:03  
What do you have now?

General progression is Flamma +1,2 > Kendatsuba > +1 for TP body
AF+3 hands for TP are easy to acquire

Relic Body +3 and valorous hands for WS, also pretty easy to acquire.
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By Bismarck.Zalena 2020-07-12 10:37:56  
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What do you have now?

General progression is Flamma +1,2 > Kendatsuba > +1 for TP body
AF+3 hands for TP are easy to acquire

Relic Body +3 and valorous hands for WS, also pretty easy to acquire.

I have bayld body and gloves on atm. I have been working on ambu so i can get upgrade items to +2 the other stuff but I havent been able to do much content yet. I just started dyna-d
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