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 Asura.Essylt
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By Asura.Essylt 2022-04-19 20:08:12  
Chimerawizard said: »
I would not suggest using bagua hat in midcast, it's just too detrimental to keeping the luopan out. Still a great option though for idle to get bigger absorbs.
Doesn't the fact that you, effectively, get 20 more ticks counter that to some degree? Not to mention that a 27/tick degen seems entirely manageable with pet regen gear.
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By Sylph.Reain 2022-04-19 20:09:43  
Gonna have to be honest with you GEO forum. I had no idea the neck+2 augment lowered perp cost by 25%.

I have a neck to augment.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-04-19 20:10:35  
yes, the wording is actual dogturds
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By Chimerawizard 2022-04-19 20:39:06  
idling in luopan HP+5/tick w/ a starting 73% HP.
vs
idling in luopan HP-3/tick w/ starting 98% HP.

that's the real difference for a geared geo or something similar for varying gear.
personally i prefer positive regen over a higher starting HP, especially when I remember EA increases perp cost too.

edit: forgot I was including af3 hat in regen #s.
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-05-25 07:28:32  
edit wrong forum
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By balberry 2022-05-30 16:07:28  
New player starting GEO -- Is the guide in the first post in this thread up to date, or are updates scattered throughout the thread? Trying to start my journey toward end game.
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By Leviathan.Supernads 2022-05-30 16:39:16  
The guide on Bgwiki is more up to date.

Compendium of Colure: The Art of Geomancy
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By IGDC 2022-06-16 11:17:04  
For Ongo v20 specifically:

If you enter during Earthsday and have Earth weather from sch:
Is Twilight Cape worth using over Ambu backpiece.

If anyone has a definite answer other than "I think this..." I'd love to know. Thanks!
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By Nariont 2022-06-16 11:32:07  
plain macc aside which is already huge for a fight where you want to squeeze in as much as you can while not hurting your nuke power, the loss of 30 INT alone will hurt you more, not to mention the 10 MAB. So far as i know the cape will only give you 5% for any of the bonuses activating, not a stacking bonus like 5% for single weather, another for day and such
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By IGDC 2022-06-16 11:36:13  
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So far as i know the cape will only give you 5% for any of the bonuses activating, not a stacking bonus like 5% for single weather, another for day and such

This is mainly what I'm worried about. The macc is a big factor in the fight (more so when it came out than now at ML40). I was trying to maximize for raw damage since 40 master levels might just make up the Stat/Macc loss from cape.

That being said, can anyone confirm if its a hard cap at 5% on the cape or if the day/weather stack to 10%?
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By Nariont 2022-06-16 11:44:04  
Can't test it myself but jp wiki states it only adds 5% max
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By IGDC 2022-06-16 11:55:44  
its earth weather right now so i did. its 5%. boo
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By Minaras84 2022-07-16 19:27:43  
Leviathan.Supernads said: »
The guide on Bgwiki is more up to date.

Compendium of Colure: The Art of Geomancy

Isnt augmented Gada better than Idris for Indi spells though?
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By Leviathan.Isiolia 2022-07-16 21:00:27  
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Isnt augmented Gada better than Idris for Indi spells though?

Not for ones cast on yourself. However, as Geomancy+ doesn't apply to Entrusted bubbles, but Indi duration does, it's optimal to swap in an augmented Gada (or Solistice) to squeeze a little more time out of Entrust.
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By bigboykoalas 2022-07-18 04:18:11  
Apologies if I'm being a bit thick here but what would be optimal for a augmented Gada.tia
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By Vaerix 2022-07-18 04:50:13  
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Apologies if I'm being a bit thick here but what would be optimal for a augmented Gada.tia

Indi eff. Dur. 11

Solstice is a good alternative instead of playing oseem rng roll roulette
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By bigboykoalas 2022-07-18 07:40:25  
Thank you ^^
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By Nariont 2022-07-18 08:34:08  
Vaerix said: »
Solstice is a good alternative instead of playing oseem rng roll roulette

If you're wanting to make the most of it not really, solstice is flat seconds while indi is a % increase like the reive cape
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-07-18 08:54:09  
Nariont said: »
Vaerix said: »
Solstice is a good alternative instead of playing oseem rng roll roulette

If you're wanting to make the most of it not really, solstice is flat seconds while indi is a % increase like the reive cape

The difference is ~6 seconds in a BiS set, so it's not completely game breaking if you use the Solstice.

Edit: I've found myself /nin a lot lately, so I actually made 2 Gadas for Entrust buffs
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By Odin.Kingofthenorth 2022-08-21 13:21:45  
I understand max is best club dd option, but I get sick of losing tp from casting geo spells. Is 269 Idris that far behind max? What would be the ws to spam if main handing Idris.
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By Gruknor 2022-08-21 13:45:22  
Exudation gets a dog bonus when idris is equipped. I would try that ws first. I doubt it will be anything special.
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By Nariont 2022-08-21 13:49:16  
It's basically judgement at 2k effective if you don't run maxentius.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-08-21 14:38:23  
Odin.Kingofthenorth said: »
I understand max is best club dd option
To my big surprise, it's not.

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Is 269 Idris that far behind max?
Depends on how you want to calculate the activation of AM3 or not. That has a huge impact on the final numbers. With AM3 on Idris is not THAT far behind, but AM3 isn't "free" it has a cost, so you need to consider that,

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What would be the ws to spam if main handing Idris.
Judgement. Alas Exudation is garbage atm.

You can check these things and much more on the GEO spreadsheet btw.
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By Odin.Kingofthenorth 2022-08-21 15:53:49  
Max isn't? What is then?
I'll check the SS out, thanks.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-08-22 04:36:59  
Odin.Kingofthenorth said: »
Max isn't? What is then?
I'll check the SS out, thanks.
I was honestly expecting Maxentius to win and was quite surprised when I saw it didn't.
Sadly too much time has passed since when I checked and right now I don't remember which weapon was first lol, you'll have to check it yourself on the spreadsheet. I think it might have been that shitty Aeonic club with Judgement spam?


Two important variables you need to consider before starting to mess up with the spreadsheet btw:

1) AM3: if it's on, Idris gets really high in the tier list. As I mentioned before though, it's not "free". Excluding situations where you can store TP before engaging, you normally have to "waste" 2 WS by saving TP up to 3k, and then do a shitty WS (Exudation) to activate the aftermath. And you would have to do this every 3 minutes. In terms of DPS this represents a cost, a loss. This means that because of this "cost" and despite AM3 being awesome, it's not always worth it. Keep in mind that the spreadsheet normally doesn't take into consideration these aspects, so before you check for Idris AM3-on numbers and exult, remember what I just said.

2) Offhand TP bonus club: if you're in a situation where you can equip this, it changes a bit the tier list of the MH option.
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By Asura.Buffyslyph 2022-08-31 13:05:40  
Is it just...azimuth x5 for m.acc/mab/m.damage now? Seems to outclass bagua everywhere.
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By Nariont 2022-08-31 13:34:18  
Depends if you have agwu's augmented or not
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By Asura.Buffyslyph 2022-08-31 13:49:46  
I do not, so thank you.

Nyame R20 WS path in all 5 slots, Judgment WS...fotia neck and waist or something else?
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2022-08-31 14:28:08  
Asura.Buffyslyph said: »
I do not, so thank you.

Nyame R20 WS path in all 5 slots, Judgment WS...fotia neck and waist or something else?
I use the Republic Platinum Medal in neck slot for Judgment (the Bastok Neck reward from VR)
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By Nariont 2022-08-31 14:33:52  
Prosilio belt +1 for belt over fotia imo
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