Bubble Trouble: A Geomancer Guide

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 Bahamut.Yiazmat
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-01-30 16:32:47  
eeternal said: »
What's a good MEVA pieces for idle, would it be Ea +1 (except hands)?

I think its still the best you can find out
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By eliroo 2021-02-09 16:06:40  
Bahamut.Yiazmat said: »
eeternal said: »
What's a good MEVA pieces for idle, would it be Ea +1 (except hands)?

I think its still the best you can find out

Volte Doublet set would be better, but I guess you did say the "best you can find" lol.
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By eliroo 2021-02-09 16:13:47  
Chimerawizard said: »
regarding the conserve mp bit, here's my sets.

Are these sets really advisable? You are casting in like 19 PDT and dropping 110 HP each time you indi.
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By Asura.Shaedhen 2021-02-10 09:43:02  
Is there any use for Relic head +3 when casting GEO spells ?
Got the +3 thanks to last month statue crusher and was wondering if it would be useful or not. Maybe on mobs that tends to do a lot of aoe ? I don't know if it would make much difference.

Any input is appreciated !
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2021-02-14 14:44:17  
Looking at the new sets... It figures GEO gets left off of a mage melee set again. But Summoner is on it for some reason? It's like they slapped SMN on it along with some pet stats lol.

It could of had so much potential.

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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2021-02-14 16:19:11  
Asura.Shaedhen said: »
Is there any use for Relic head +3 when casting GEO spells ?
Got the +3 thanks to last month statue crusher and was wondering if it would be useful or not. Maybe on mobs that tends to do a lot of aoe ? I don't know if it would make much difference.

Any input is appreciated !

It has potential in your hybrid set for idle.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-02-19 19:41:24  
Updated the GEO+WHM DPS spreadsheet with the Bunzi stuff from Odyssey.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-10 06:33:24  
Updated the GEO+WHM DPS spreadsheet with the Nyame set options.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2021-03-10 11:29:01  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Updated the GEO+WHM DPS spreadsheet with the Nyame set options.


Thanks,

Really looks like GEO DPS was thrown a bone with this new set.

Path B is tempting, but I may just go with Path A for my DRG and GEO. Thats what GEO really needs, I mainly use magical ws anyways.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-10 12:12:44  
Don't wish to make your choices harder, but path b might be bis for both physical AND magical ws °_°

Don't quote me on that though, haven't tested yet.

Path a would undoubtedly be bis for tpset with am3 up.
Maybe for other setups too.
You need to test it!
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By malakef 2021-03-10 13:33:09  
The issue with path B is for other jobs it’s kind of bleh except for hybrid WS. I’m thinking path A for melee mages and DRG TP is seemingly the best options with it although could do a slight blend take path B for head and hands and keep using blistering sallet and gazu brackets in the geo TP set with body legs and feet path A.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-10 13:56:26  
malakef said: »
The issue with path B is for other jobs it’s kind of bleh except for hybrid WS.
Define "other jobs" because I can see it pretty *** good / BiS for quite a lot of jobs!

That, and you have the additional aspect of defense during WS, which is quite interesting these days.

DEX based WS suffer more because this set has low DEX, some of the other stats are okaysh though.
Aside from people who've been blessed by >8% WSD and good stats with DM augs, a lot of jobs can make good use of Path B.
And that's without even taking into account the inventory saving aspect, which for some of us who have over 10 jobs geared up, is quite the issue let me say.




In the end I don't want to promote Path B over A, but I just wanted to emphasize that you might be disregarding B a bit too fast.
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By malakef 2021-03-10 14:01:33  
It’s actually somewhat low stats for str too which hurts it for those jobs. And the other issue is at attack cap it’s still losing to the last sets just released. After people calm down a bit and begin to explore the numbers more It should become obvious that they short changed MA and base stats on these a little too much. B is really really good...If we didn’t just get all that PDL stuff which helps even your single big hit WS.
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-10 14:04:13  
Both sets are really good for Mage jobs, gonna be a hard choice but whatever choice you make, it's hardly gonna be a bad one, I think.
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By malakef 2021-03-10 14:05:20  
Oh for my melee GEO I’ll be squealing with glee.
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By SimonSes 2021-03-10 15:02:32  
malakef said: »
It’s actually somewhat low stats for str too which hurts it for those jobs. And the other issue is at attack cap it’s still losing to the last sets just released. After people calm down a bit and begin to explore the numbers more It should become obvious that they short changed MA and base stats on these a little too much. B is really really good...If we didn’t just get all that PDL stuff which helps even your single big hit WS.

I actually went with cool head from the start and already posted some info with that in mind. Also path B has really low acc, so it's not gonna work for WS like Insurgency or Upheaval, where you want wsd because ftp on first hit is big, but you still also want accuracy to land rest of the hits, because they are big part of ws damage too. Even for first hit heavy WS like Torcleaver, 5/5 path B has base accuracy below 1100, which might be a problem even with native bonus of +100 acc on first hit and you are pretty much forced to use acc food.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-03-10 15:02:50  
Can we say that geo is dying with Gaol (debuffs nerf and no subjob) and all the others content its nerfed ?
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By SimonSes 2021-03-10 15:09:06  
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Can we say that geo is dying with Gaol (debuffs nerf and no subjob) and all the others content its nerfed ?

I think people see GEO too much through it's debuffs.
Bolster fury, barrier, fend or attunement are MASSIVE buffs, especially with idris.
+120% attack, +170% def etc. are crazy numbers.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-03-10 17:32:08  
If only we could get an higher regen potency for bubbles or a repair item like pup
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By SimonSes 2021-03-10 18:29:54  
Bahamut.Yiazmat said: »
If only we could get an higher regen potency for bubbles or a repair item like pup

I have seen Ejin using Geo in Gaol V15 with +2 neck and every time absorb procced, Luopan was fully cured, because it absorbs damage before DT- and other reduction takes place.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-03-11 03:46:07  
The 10% DT absorb is luck based or it proc before DT cap or after ?
 
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By Odin.Senaki 2021-03-11 03:54:53  
Odin.Sudra said: »
(This is) 10% luck.
20% skill.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-03-11 04:35:06  
I never considered buying a +2 since i had idris, maybe i should
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By SimonSes 2021-03-11 05:37:05  
Odin.Sudra said: »
It is 10% luck.

Its not really that luck based. Absorb will happen eventually. AFAIK Luopan has -87.5% damage taken (with Idris and standard gear). Assuming it will get hit by 1000dmg AoE 10 times, on avg it will take 9x 125 damage and will be healed once for 1000. Lets avg out it will get healed by 6th AoE. In the end it will take 400 damage instead of 1250, which is a huge improvement. You can buy +1 neck too. 8% absorb will still be a big gain too.
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By Asura.Shaedhen 2021-03-11 05:46:36  
SimonSes said: »
Bahamut.Yiazmat said: »
Can we say that geo is dying with Gaol (debuffs nerf and no subjob) and all the others content its nerfed ?

I think people see GEO too much through it's debuffs.
Bolster fury, barrier, fend or attunement are MASSIVE buffs, especially with idris.
+120% attack, +170% def etc. are crazy numbers.

As someone who plays GEO quite often lately, I agree with what Simon said. I think it was way overpowered in the past. Now it's a bit more on par with other support jobs.
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By gargurty 2021-03-11 06:22:55  
I'd say only buy the +2 when you are a main geo. If not nq or even +1 will be enough. It's a big price tag upwards from +1 to +2.
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By Chimerawizard 2021-03-13 13:08:15  
neck is also good for reducing the luopan's base DoT in the midcast set.
Definitely worth getting a +1. Have a +2 myself and it's kept my pet alive in some spots I would never expect.
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If only we could get an higher regen potency for bubbles or a repair item like pup

If only bottle of dawn mulsum worked on luopans, feels like a bug to me that it doesn't.
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By Ragnarok.Hulkamania 2021-03-13 14:48:44  
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Odin.Sudra said: »
(This is) 10% luck.
20% skill.
I would argue it's more 15% concentrated power of will.
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