Shut 'em Down!

Well, here's the deal, if we posted studies from Geology and Seismology departments of universities you would probably write it off as liberal university propaganda. I mean, you've already dismissed Jassik's USGS definition in favor of a dictionary definition.

EDIT: I honestly doubt you'll even take the time to read citation, since you don't read your own.

When did I ever say that? What's happening is that some insurers are using the ACA as an excuse to eliminate policies that they do not want... It has nothing to do with the ACA requiring them to... This is about profit to them but my argument was to highlight the fact that all these policies are not just getting nixed because the ACA requires it but companies are using it as a way to unload unwanted customers... as opposed to the whole well Obama is forcing this to happen!

I lived in southern california for 29yrs and vividly recall the 94' quake and even my first 6.1 in 87'. The fact that you are even getting into a semantic argument over the definition of an earthquake is pathetic.

2 pages ago you denied that the rumblings people were experiencing in Texas were Earthquakes caused by Fracking.

Then Zahr supplies a link that relates a fertilizer plant explosion to a 2.1 and you say it doesn't prove their point.


Now you are trying to define an earthquake and are even saying a hand grenade explosion is an earthquake which only validates Zahr use of the link with regard to the fertilizer plant. Let alone the fact the very definitions you are using indicate earthquakes can have anthropogenic origins. Which is a complete 180º of your original contention to Zahrs point.

You can't have it both ways. You don't want to be wrong and no-one else can be right.

Did you ever stop to think that if you keep butting heads with the world that maybe its not the world who is being the ***?

Edit: obviously this post is directed at Nausi.

We had an annual enrollment meeting last week outlining some changes to the plans my company offers, one of which they attributed to the new law. I challenged them on it, and got the head of human resources to call the general manager for benefits for our corporate ownership to confirm the portion of the law that dictated that change. Of course he was dismissive and continually referred to the law as "Obamacare". I sent the sections of the law pertaining to that change in an E-mail to his office and received a reply about 4 hours later admitting that the change was not dictated by the law, but rather offered to the company by the insurance provider. They issued a company wide memo correcting the language used in the meetings to the entire corporate parent and all subsidiaries yesterday. The insurance provider did not wish to respond to the E-mails I and the executive staff sent regarding their reasoning for misrepresenting the change or how it affected their interests. Our company is attempting to drop the change in favor of the original policy for at least 2014.

Sometimes, when you put facts under someone's nose, they acknowledge them.

Kind of off topic, but maybe we should shift off this anyway, but what's the geological composition in CA? This has piqued my curiosity since the distance the vibrations travel is related to the rock density. I know the intensity of ours is a joke in comparison to CA's, I'm just baffled by how far they're felt here even for being low intensity.

Not sure why that fluttered into my brain.

It is easier to just do what you want and then blame someone else...

The law passes, the costs of insurance companies to continue to provide insurance increases because of it (is anyone really still contesting that), and when companies shed the more risky policies because they deal with the new law, instead of holding the law at fault you hold the evil corporation at fault the continuing quest towards what else but trying to remain profitable.

I think the point Nausi was trying to make about the fracking earthquakes is "c'mon guys, they aren't that big of a deal". Which is the exact same thing the guy holding the M80 says two seconds before he blows his hand off... whether it's a big deal or not I'm sure we will find out too late...

I don't know where he got the jumping off ladders and garbage trucks and dinosaurs and hand grenades from... but I hope he puts them all away whenever he gets finished playing with them....

Is he going to find a citation that supports his garbage truck theory? NO, will he instead find information that supports everyone he is arguing against? sure.

But the real problem is Kingnobody casually mentioned he knows what dead hookers smell like and everybody just glossed right over it nobody skipped a beat! You can all pick on Nausi later once kingnobody is safely in the custody of the authorities.

Everything. But to be more grounded it does have limestone sections but nothing on the scale of Texas.
This map is pretty informative with respect to CA's geological composition

As you can see a lot of granite, sandstone and pyroclastic rock.

TY, Zero!

it's all too synonymous with the grand theft auto jokes.

I guess GTA, and vidya games, by extension, have warped all our minds into making these poor, god-fearing, prostitutes into just caricatures of themselves, who are only good for lovin', then running over with a stolen car to get your money back.

*edit*

lmao, "lovin'" prolly wasn't the term Iwas looking for >.<

I got a little too disturbed when he got the shotgun out and wanted to take me on a date...

Did you ever stop to think:

"why are they providing risky policy's, and why did it a take a law to force them to stop? If these risky policy's are more profitable for the company and not beneficial for the consumer, why should I as a consumer be defending them?"

edit: you should also ask yourself "should healthcare insurance actually be a profitable industry for the providers?"

It is after all a socialist construct.

The mental image of Nausi as Rambo, grenade in hand, hopping from a speeding garbage truck onto a ladder set against a saddled brontosaurus infiltrated my mind.

That trumps the mental image of KN as Patrick Bateman with a chainsaw chasing a hooker.

Totally reminds me of the game "Bad Dudes"... anyone remember that classic?

Who cares about the hooker? Did he get fined by the EPA for improper disposal of a body?

Fish and Game might also want a piece of the action if he dumped that body into a river. So might the Forest Service if that was on federal land. When those regulators are done, you'll wish you never been born.

Obamas hands will go places you didn't even know you had.

Just goes to show nobody really reads their posts lol

Most of what you're saying is still garbage but at least you're jumping over to the other side now too and saying that the ACA isn't forcing companies to cancel policies by law but they're doing it to shed risky policies in fear that they will be a burden...

The costs to insurance carriers isn't really increasing unless you have a significantly disproportionate level of people that are unhealthy as opposed to healthy requiring a great deal of care... you'll get more coverage but you also pay the higher premium that the coverage affords... its not like they're saying hey give them more coverage at the same cost...

You hold the corp at fault when they use the ACA as a smokescreen and tell people that they had to force them off their policies because the ACA requires it when the ACA did not require it... they just used it as a catalyst to dump people...

Hmmm...Patrick Bateman-esque might be a good analogy for certain political philosophies on here.

I love you guys soooooo much....

I just want to take you ALL out on one big group gathering

And there you have it, EXACTLY what PR is all about.

And there you have it, EXACTLY what PR is all about.

Post flagged by the NSA.

It's a phony threat since he'd blow himself up.

Aren't threats a bannable offense according to the FFXIAH.COM rules?

stop it.

these threads would be so dull without him, amad, and nausi, that we'd have to find something else to do altogether.

Ugh, you're probably right...

I don't think it qualifies as a threat, just shitty humor in poor taste. Much like Amandarius referring to everyone as "rere's", earlier today doesn't quite qualify as calling everyone HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, which is also bannable per the forum rules; was just an attempt to be funny.

it takes all kinds.

Yeah I didn't take it as a real threat either lol... He does seem to have a macabre sense of humor though...