Shut 'em Down!

Liberals, Democrats, Tea Partiers, confused brain-washed Conservatives, and the intellectually uninformed - If there's one thing South Park taught us, it's to blame someone else for your troubles! "Blame Canada!" comes to mind.

While we can all agree that no politician is entirely truthful, and can be sketchy and dodgy at most times, The current state of the Republican party is in even more dire straights than Canada's own Bloc Quebecois, though found to be in similar situations and circumstances.

Their own members are beginning to cross the podium to the other side, distancing themselves from the loudest, most ignorant members at the forefront that represent their constituent interests, which were "duly elected" to perform such duties as announced on platforms (which were then recinded upon access to office), spreading extreme falsehoods, which are then mimicked by the most backwards, intellectually stunted members of the party.

Granted, there has been some debate by intelligible members seeking information and conversation regarding fact versus opinion. Fact versus myth. And so on.

After reading past the last 10 pages, I am seated squarely on the edge, awaiting for a glorious battle to be fought by two political behemoths. A good fight is a good fight after all. However, in this case, it's been fact versus mudslinging. The act of a party desperate for attention, desperate for some kind of victory in a losing battle, where the war is supposedly over, that it's much like watching a cripple being kicked in the junk by a horse.

The ACA, having been found constitutional by the highest court in the land, means that negotiations are over. Considering the act had to be compromised from it's original proposal in order to be passed the first time.

All I've really heard from the Republican supporters are "I love you, but you disgust me", and "Everyone is equal, except some people are more equal than others", and so forth.

The world is already burning. I'm here to watch it. So you don't really need to pour gas on the bonfire when it already roars spectacularly.

Wait, how are shots "potentially fired"?

Is it possible that the car backfired and people overreacted? The person may have accidentally tried to go around the barricade by navigation error too.

More details at 7, James.

The delay is entirely unreasonable. You're just wrong, neither he nor the office is above the law. Remember when he announced he wasn't gonna enforce DOMA anymore, where was the faithful implementation/unreasonable delay there?

Answer: It wasn't politically advantageous anymore.

What political advantage does the author of his own bill gain by forcing an "unreasonable delay"?

The Answer: NONE. Absolutely none.

The advantages it does give, are to a governmental construct for foreseeable, non-foreseeable, and for clerical confirmations that would allow insurance companies, those requiring (and are seeking qualifications for subsidies) and the government to get their ducks in a row.

It's amazing how much people are willing to ignore to justify their own "factpinions" (I coined it first, Stephen Colbert, so you can keep your "truthiness" to yourself!) where they confuse fact with what they believe to be an "informed opinion", despite proof of not being so.

Hell, they'll even go so far as to decry any organization you get news and facts from (including their own) as "liberal media" just to expunge themselves from reality.

lol, gimmie a break. Obamacare is going to be disasterous, the employer mandate had/has severe consequences for job and economic growth. That's not the political vantage point he wants for the 2014 midterms, that's why he delayed it. It doesn't matter what he said (as if he would admit his motives).

NEWS FLASH: HE LIES!!

"During the course of my presidency, I have bent over backwards to work with the Republican party and have purposely kept my rhetoric down. I think I’m pretty well known for being a calm guy. Sometimes people think I’m too calm. And am I exasperated? Absolutely I’m exasperated because this is entirely unnecessary."

Nothing in that quote is a lie, good try tho. Obamacare is in effect, and its going through a standard MMO launch, but no one cares because Boehner has the gov't shutdown. Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory Boehner. Hilarious.

he refused to enforce doma because he had reason to believe it was unconstitutional. and it was determined to be exactly that.

also, you can't call it outside his power and an abuse of power at the same time. how can anyone abuse a power they don't have?

Nobody knows if it is going to be disasterous or not. What we do know is that the group that opposes it and claims it is disasterous is willing to cause disaster by destroying the reputation of their own nation, with the threat of default.

Nobody knew if Social Security or Unemployment Insurance or Farm Aid was going to be disasterous or not. Within 10yrs of their implementation the people loved them so much that it became political suicide to try and remove them. Instead of waiting the 10yrs it seems like the group that is so dead against ACA is ready to commit suicide now and take everyone in the country with them.

They can play this game right up to the debt ceiling deadline because I know no one has the balls to have the US default to score some political points against Obamacare. I'm only sorry for the thousands of gov't workers who need their paychecks to survive and are now waiting in limbo for Congress to put their adult diapers back on and get back to not working.

Cooler heads will prevail. They wouldn't dare sabotage the economy. No amount of frothing hatred of Obama would allow them to.

Yeah, i have no idea. It seems a bit odd.

I haven't watched the cnn video but it supposedly shows what happened.

looks like she was driving an infiniti, they've got good accelartion. Makes me miss my Q45. Looks like the gun shots are directed at the car.

I used to work under contract with NTCNA (Nissan's in-house test branch) and one of the largest complaints with the Q line (aside from the questionable styling at the time) was that it was underpowered when placed parallel with it's competitors. IE, the 3.5 was slower than the 535i, and the 4.5 was slower than the 545. In benchmarks it was comparable in traffic, though.

OT, I know.

WA Post report

Apparently if you allow for the 1 in the number as nothing, the healthcare exchange phone line can be read as 1-800-***.

1-800-318-2596
1-800-3(F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O)
Lolz

Apparently 1-800-382-5968 was taken already.

yeah, thats old.

There are a ton of things that have supposed and actual huge economic growth impacts. You know what was determined when "Papa John" launched a counter-attack on Obamacare? All he needed to do was increase the price of pizza 11 cents (one of many items on the store chain menu) that people would have eagerly paid, and yet could make a huge profit by charging a dollar in it's place to cover his employees instead. That increased profitability would have also seen his employees making more money to help stimulate their local economy through their purchases, etc. and so forth.

Man, you have a personal vendetta against "Obamacare", which is a scare-tactic name, filled with lies, intentional misinformation, and misrepresentation, considering the man he ran against, did the very same thing - successfully - as the republican governor of Mass. On national scale, the republicans have wanted to slash Education, social security, veteran funding, etc. leaving anyone but themselves out in the cold.

The facts speak for themselves, and I personally find it sad, and offensive, that someone who claims to have any kind of pseudo-intelligence, "inside information", and a "Holier than thou" attitude, to blatantly ignore and distort the facts, just because it may or may not influence a truly informed decision versus an ignorant opinion being presented and paraded around as fact.

One could argue, just by this post alone, that you have a personal vendetta against Republicans.

I interpret it as a vendetta against idiots.

But the crowd he is talking about aren't Republicans, regardless of what they call themselves.

Do you seriously have something against me where you have to argue anything I say?

Not anything, just the intentionally baiting things.

sometimes you need a satrical take on things to best communicate a view point. In this video its the segment with John Oliver.

Without reading through the 10 pages I missed....

Right now there are enough votes in the house to send a "clean" resolution to the senate. There are reports of 18 (at this time and I am off to bed after I post[no you can't join me.]) Republican house members willing to pass it.

But the Speaker of the House will not move it to the floor.

As Congressperson Michele Bachmann said "This is EXACTLY what we wanted and we got it." (Emphasis mine.)

So, please tell me just who's fault it is that the government is shut down?

Hint: it isn't the parks department.

Yeah that's pretty late chanti.

As my mother said, "I am built for comfort, not for speed."

And a bit busy getting to Fisher 50 in XIV.

Halcyon Rod, YES!!!!

How can we expect children to act responsibly when represenatives for our government act like toddlers holding their breath and turning blue to get their way?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/03/republicans-debt-limit-treasury-economy


Since when is it ok to not pay creditors for something that has been bought and utilized? I thought republicans were the party of personal responsiblity, not "well, I may have bought that but why do I have to actually have to pay for it party?"

I'm not trying to pick a fight, I honestly want to know how someone can have two different views on something and not fall over with the hypocrisy.

That is how I see it. Both sides are feet stomping.

Not much to say anymore if people still see it that way.

Its always been an arbitrary date, Jack Lew has said no later than Oct. 17, it could happen a few days before. That congressman has no idea, he shouldn't even be talking, and his idea about republican sympathy is hilarious. But what do you expect from Wisconsin.

If any other country had this much uncertainity about defaulting on their debt, their credit rating would be downgraded to below investment grade.

This is beyond ridiculous that the US is even having a national conversation about defaulting.