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The mentally disabled state of Texas (Loud and clear)
By sumo 2013-07-05 09:15:29
E.g. A person buys a DVD opens it, doesn't like it, tries to return it, but it is aginst public policy to refund money. With the stories logic that means they are stealing the customers money.
Not quite. Since the person purchased this DVD from the store/person/what have you, the transaction would be considered complete. The man in the story never completed his albeit illegal transaction, and thus was allowed to exercise his law given right to use deadly force to retrieve the money that was "stolen" from him.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-07-05 09:35:50
Man pays an escort, a person hired to provide companionship, or be a piece of eyecandy out in public according to the description, which she did. This is the completed state of the transaction in the escort business.
The money, which had exchanged hands, without initial reports to the police of theft (which can be considered a false report, and is illegal) was no longer his property.
He was just pissed he didn't get sex from another adult who didn't consent to it. Shot her in the neck, leaving her in critical condition for months before she died.
By sumo 2013-07-05 09:38:34
I agree with you, but that's not how the jury saw it.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 09:48:34
Me and 7 friends did a cross country drive from L.A to Miami. We spent an additional $ 3.5k on lodging and fuel, lost 72 hours all to avoid Texas and Tennessee.
8 brown/wheetish skinned guys driving sports cars through Texas and TE sounded like the quickest way to end up dead.
Someone suggested we bleach our Hair blond and put on Cowboy hats, chew tobacco, to avoid arousing suspicion among the natives. Yeah a brown person in Texas? We don't allow that.
I mean, aside from having a higher percentage of black people than your own home state, a higher percentage of hispanics than your own home state, and the city with the highest raw number of Asians in America, yeah, we don't allow that.
I.e., you and mister I'm-gonna-list-republicans-I-hate-bc-daddy-didn't-love-me need to learn some real life facts and not just go by what your propagandists tell you.
By Enuyasha 2013-07-05 09:51:35
Whelp, this is now a "anti-republicans(and something else vague thrown in thar) whut!?!" thread.
Totally not how someone who didnt understand what an escort was got away with murder. Nope. Not.At.All.Periods.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 09:51:39
And there are numerous states with laws that allow deadly force to protect property, and the government wasn't giving the stamp of approval for his behavior, but it was a MURDER trial, and you only need to establish that he was acting in his legal right to get an acquittal. I bet lots of ho's get shot in L.A.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2013-07-05 10:06:58
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Me and 7 friends did a cross country drive from L.A to Miami. We spent an additional $ 3.5k on lodging and fuel, lost 72 hours all to avoid Texas and Tennessee.
8 brown/wheetish skinned guys driving sports cars through Texas and TE sounded like the quickest way to end up dead.
Someone suggested we bleach our Hair blond and put on Cowboy hats, chew tobacco, to avoid arousing suspicion among the natives. Yeah a brown person in Texas? We don't allow that....
He isn't talking about Texas, he is talking about people's PERCEPTIONS of Texas.
I wonder why they have those perceptions?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2013-07-05 10:15:54
I love texas, Go cowboys/rangers!
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-07-05 10:18:01
Me and 7 friends did a cross country drive from L.A to Miami. We spent an additional $ 3.5k on lodging and fuel, lost 72 hours all to avoid Texas and Tennessee.
LOL! Why would you even need to travel through Tennessee to go from Miami to LA? Wouldn't you just be following I-10 the entire way through TX? Congratulations! You wasted a lot of money, a lot of gas, and a learning experience you are desperately in need of if you think this...
Someone suggested we bleach our Hair blond and put on Cowboy hats, chew tobacco, to avoid arousing suspicion among the natives.
Also...
8 brown/wheetish skinned guys driving sports cars through Texas and TE sounded like the quickest way to end up dead.
This and the flag can easily lead us to a very, very hilarious stereotype...
If this is the case, Fort Worth, Austin, and San Antonio thank you. I'm sure Nashville is wiping its brow in relief also.
Just saying...
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-05 10:45:13
Just because you don't like the results of one ruling in one case doesn't mean that the state and, by extension, their citizens mentally disabled.
Because by your reasoning, I have just as much right and reason to call your state, and also by extension, you mentally disabled.
Just remember, just because you don't like an answer doesn't mean that your answer is correct either...
but I do agree, he did get off by a technicality...
By Quiznor 2013-07-05 10:47:00
Me and 7 friends did a cross country drive from L.A to Miami. We spent an additional $ 3.5k on lodging and fuel, lost 72 hours all to avoid Texas and Tennessee.
LOL! Why would you even need to travel through Tennessee to go from Miami to LA? Wouldn't you just be following I-10 the entire way through TX? Congratulations! You wasted a lot of money, a lot of gas, and a learning experience you are desperately in need of if you think this...
Someone suggested we bleach our Hair blond and put on Cowboy hats, chew tobacco, to avoid arousing suspicion among the natives.
Also...
8 brown/wheetish skinned guys driving sports cars through Texas and TE sounded like the quickest way to end up dead.
This and the flag can easily lead us to a very, very hilarious stereotype...
If this is the case, Fort Worth, Austin, and San Antonio thank you. I'm sure Nashville is wiping its brow in relief also.
Just saying...
Zah,idk what to say @_@
What the *** do you think of Irish people lol
Also,I'm pale as ***,so go me
Caitsith.Zahrah
By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-07-05 10:50:48
Zah,idk what to say @_@
What the *** do you think of Irish people lol
Also,I'm pale as ***,so go me
I thought it was the Italian flag. One seems a little darker, but I'm not capable of much today.
/squints
By Quiznor 2013-07-05 10:51:51
Zah,idk what to say @_@
What the *** do you think of Irish people lol
Also,I'm pale as ***,so go me
I thought it was the Italian flag. One seems a little darker, but I'm not capable of much today.
/squints
Everyone mistakes the irish flag for the italian one on here @_@ I need to have scragg change that!
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 11:03:55
He isn't talking about Texas, he is talking about people's PERCEPTIONS of Texas.
I wonder why they have those perceptions? Because people like to live with their prejudices, even especially the so-called "tolerant" left. I cringe when I see people portray people from Louisiana or Texas or other Southern state in Hollywood or some other medium. Funny how we are supposed to embrace all these other cultures, but your own fellow Americans whom you don't need a passport or more than a weekend to go see first-hand, you inevitably get it wrong.
And for the record, the idea that someone in California would laugh at some perceived mental disability of another state is absurd on its face.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-07-05 11:07:13
My god... I actually agree with Tenshi.
Has the whole world gone crazy?!
Caitsith.Zahrah
By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-07-05 11:09:48
Oh no! This went exactly where I thought it would.
/whispers
Mag! Pssst! Mag! I saw California and Texas smoochin' and holding hands behind the batting cages! DON'T TELL ANYONE!
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 11:10:25
John Goodman even lives in the little town I grew up in outside of New Orleans, married my friend's sister. Funny you should use his pic lol
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-07-05 11:10:50
I was never very good with secrets.
How big should the banner be?
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-05 11:11:08
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »He isn't talking about Texas, he is talking about people's PERCEPTIONS of Texas.
I wonder why they have those perceptions? Because people like to live with their prejudices, even especially the so-called "tolerant" left. I cringe when I see people portray people from Louisiana or Texas or other Southern state in Hollywood or some other medium. Funny how we are supposed to embrace all these other cultures, but your own fellow Americans whom you don't need a passport or more than a weekend to go see first-hand, you inevitably get it wrong.
And for the record, the idea that someone in California would laugh at some perceived mental disability of another state is absurd on its face.
Sorry, we are killing each other for far less admirable reasons AND Race/Ethnicity. Might not be "Tolerant" but hey, its the truth.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2013-07-05 11:12:07
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »John Goodman even lives in the little town I grew up in outside of New Orleans, married my friend's sister. Funny you should use his pic lol If you ever talk to him, tell him thank you for the Big Lebowski.
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-05 11:13:10
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Because people like to live with their prejudices, even especially the so-called "tolerant" left. I cringe when I see people portray people from Louisiana or Texas or other Southern state in Hollywood or some other medium. Funny how we are supposed to embrace all these other cultures, but your own fellow Americans whom you don't need a passport or more than a weekend to go see first-hand, you inevitably get it wrong.
And for the record, the idea that someone in California would laugh at some perceived mental disability of another state is absurd on its face.
There is no point in making it into a political rant.
People on both sides of the political line get the actuality of Texas wrong. Then again, people on both sides of the political line get the actuality of Texas near correct. And there is also people IN Texas who are on both sides of the political line. For example, Austin is about as liberal as Hollywood. Rest of the state, middle of the road and towards the right.
Making this as a liberal-bashing because you don't agree with them, you are just as bad as the liberals who do the same to conservatives.
That is the true wrong with today's society in the US. Everyone believes that their viewpoints are the absolute truth, but yet, very few people actually see things for what they are.
We need conservatives as much as we need liberals. Very little, but still need them.
In order to learn to accept things as what they are, first learn that not everyone is going to agree with you. In fact, nobody will agree with you at all. Everyone has their own concept of reality. Better that you find that out now than later.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 11:15:01
If you ever talk to him, tell him thank you for the Big Lebowski. Shoot I left that town and never looked back lol... I did hear he was drunk in my backyard with Bruce Willis and Dennis Quaid in the 80's, and I got my hair cut once with his wife. Yep, I'm special lol
Come to think of it, that's REALLY long for a celebrity to stay married... about 25 years and counting.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-05 11:15:08
Zah,idk what to say @_@
What the *** do you think of Irish people lol
Also,I'm pale as ***,so go me
I thought it was the Italian flag. One seems a little darker, but I'm not capable of much today.
/squints
Everyone mistakes the irish flag for the italian one on here @_@ I need to have scragg change that!
whisky, wine, whatever. potato, tomato.
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By Shiva.Arana 2013-07-05 11:17:58
Welcome to Whose stereotype is it Anyway; the thread where everything's made up and logic doesn't matter.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-07-05 11:20:41
In order to learn to accept things as what they are, first learn that not everyone is going to agree with you. In fact, nobody will agree with you at all. Everyone has their own concept of reality. Better that you find that out now than later. I'm not a FFXI player who dabbles in politics, I am a political person who dabbles in FFXI. I was not the one who introduced the left-vs-right concept in this thread, and in fact that was probably a fair assessment of the spirit of the OP. I don't need lecturing about political realities or dime store philosophy. I have my beliefs and they are well-founded. I can disagree with people who intellectually come to different conclusions and we can learn from each other. Dealing with people who serve as parrots repeating nonsense is a different issue, and yes, that is most of what gets said about the South, including Texas.
By somebodyloved 2013-07-05 11:20:54
What are the prizes at the end of the day?
Do I get disappointment, or hatred?
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2013-07-05 11:24:52
Welcome to Whose stereotype is it Anyway; the thread where everything's made up and logic doesn't matter.
Can we just fast forward this thread to the point where we all link arms and slur-sing our way through David Allan Coe songs, either ironically or just for the pure fun of it, to scare everyone away? Tell me when we reach that part. That's always the best!
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-05 11:30:12
Welcome to Whose stereotype is it Anyway; the thread where everything's made up and logic doesn't matter.
Can we just fast forward this thread to the point where we all link arms and slur-sing our way through David Allan Coe songs, either ironically or just for the pure fun of it, to scare everyone away? Tell me when we reach that part. That's always the best! Te fun part is when it becomes an "Obama is the reason this happened!" thread :< Those are great.
By somebodyloved 2013-07-05 11:31:17
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »In order to learn to accept things as what they are, first learn that not everyone is going to agree with you. In fact, nobody will agree with you at all. Everyone has their own concept of reality. Better that you find that out now than later. I'm not a FFXI player who dabbles in politics, I am a political person who dabbles in FFXI. I was not the one who introduced the left-vs-right concept in this thread, and in fact that was probably a fair assessment of the spirit of the OP. I don't need lecturing about political realities or dime store philosophy. I have my beliefs and they are well-founded. I can disagree with people who intellectually come to different conclusions and we can learn from each other. Dealing with people who serve as parrots repeating nonsense is a different issue, and yes, that is most of what gets said about the South, including Texas.
It wasn't a direct diatribe against you personally. I understand your viewpoints, although I have only seen you in this thread (you look to be a poster who speaks their mind a lot, which is kindof like the old me before I left FFXI a few years ago. I grew up since then and learned the best way to present an argument is not to be a totalitarian when it comes to arguments).
I believe that compromise and listening is a two-way street. In order for you to get people to listen to you, you must yourself listen to people. And know your audience. Most posters on this website are children between the ages of 13 to 25. Most of them are still in this dreamland of what liberal ideas promises, but never produces.
If you really want to reach out to those people, then you have to structure your argument that shows a valid viewpoint instead of absolution. Notice that my speech to you personally is a lot different than before, and that is because I respect your viewpoint and understand that your mind works differently than others on this forum.
But I also believe that you need to lighten up. This isn't an hardcore Beltway forum. This is a game forum. Most, if not all viewpoints on politics are limited to what they listen to from mainstream media. Until they realize that they are just listening to propaganda (on ALL media outlets, not just mainstream) and base their viewpoints off of how one reads behind the lines, then you have to treat them as children who only likes flashing things.
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By Asura.Melbufrauma 2013-07-05 11:32:24
Texas isn't so bad, every state has their own obscure laws (in NY it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk). And every state has its loonies. TX has beautiful women, damn good food, people are friendly and its where all the jobs are. TX itself has a higher GDP than Australia and Canada, in fact if TX was its own country, it'd have the 13th best economy in the world.
Jury Acquits Texas Man For Murder Of Escort Who Refused Sex
A Texas jury acquitted a man for the murder of a woman he hired as an escort, after his lawyers claimed he was authorized to use deadly force because she refused sex.
Ezekiel Gilbert shot Lenora Ivie Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve, after she denied his requests for sex and wouldn’t return the $150 he had paid her, according to the San Antonio Express-News. Under Texas law, an individual is authorized to use deadly force to “retrieve stolen property at night,” and Gilbert’s lawyers cited that provision as justification for Gilbert’s action, reasoning that Frago had stolen $150 from him by taking his money without delivering sex. In a police interview played for jurors, Gilbert “never mentioned anything about theft,” a detective told the San Antonio Express-News. Frago, who was 21, was critically injured and died several months later.
While the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida has generated notoriety for NRA-backed Stand Your Ground laws, which authorize the unfettered use of deadly force without a duty to retreat in defense of one’s person or home, Texas’ exceedingly broad law goes well beyond this, to allow deadly force in protection of any piece of “tangible” or “movable” property.
The Texas provision authorizes deadly force not only to “retrieve stolen property at night” but also during “criminal mischief in the nighttime” and even to prevent someone who is fleeing immediately after a theft during the night or a burglary or robbery, so long as the individual “reasonably” thinks the property cannot be protected by other means.
This shockingly broad statute authorizes individuals to take not just law enforcement, but punishment, into their own hands and impose death for alleged offenses that would never warrant the death penalty even if the person were convicted in court. But even in light of the expansive vigilante justice made legal by the statute, it is difficult to see how Gilbert’s behavior was justified, given that escorts are not entitled to deliver sex under the law, and delivering sex for money is an illegal transaction.
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