The Mentally Disabled State Of Texas (Loud And Clear)

You may know what happens with a certain group of people and don't get me wrong I'm not saying their aren't people who don't game the system or abuse it... but that goes for people that aren't on welfare too... Thing is you don't know anything about the majority of people in that situation... whether they are as you assume they are or not..

I'm sure there are people out there that think you're stupid as well and don't really want to deal with you...

so it's not really retail in particular it's just how your treated?

The biggest problem I have with people bitching about welfare queens is that, while you may have first hand experience with one or two, or even a handful, these people make up a small percentage of people who receive such benefits. Most people don't advertise they're on foodstamps or unemployment or what have you. They're people trying to make it in the world, getting help because they need it. I've worked retail for 7+ years, and sure, I've seen someone who possibly abuses welfare (although I have no way of really knowing this unless they explicitly tell me), but the vast majority of WIC and foodstamps users seem perfectly good and normal.

We're in an economy with almost double digit unemployment, and some people are just trying to make ends meet. Sure, there are couples that both work 40+ hours a week each and need foodstamps for themselves and their children. Why? Because even if you make a bit over minimum wage, in most states, that doesn't keep up with the cost of living. Even people making annual salaries are having trouble because employers won't adjust their pay to scale with cost of living; people like my mother's boss (head of a non-profit Christian organization) would rather pocket big bonuses and buy a new private jet than give their employees the raises they promised years ago.

For most of the thread, I've heard a lot of snap judgements about people receiving assistance, mostly from small-town people with anecdotes. There's a woman in Florida that won the lottery and is still on welfare? Mostly because a lot of lottery winners have no idea how to save money, and are used to being poor, and have a "spend money while you have it because you don't know when you'll have it again" mentality. That's what happens when you live paycheck-to-paycheck, and it's very hard to break that cycle, especially if you grew up in that kind of environment, and especially since these types of life skills aren't taught.

Basically, making blanket judgements about people and programs based on personal anecdotes and claiming moral superiority, at the very least, give the appearance of close-mindedness.

Also, I've lived in Texas for over half my life, and it *** sucks. The only thing going for it is Chicken Express and Whataburger.

I'm sure there are people who feel that way about me, and that's fine as long as we don't clash. We could end up finding numerous reasons why the other person is stupid, and we'd both be wrong... or right, and we'd both be stupid for having a contest over it.

Ok, I've had some lunch, and I've cleared my head, and I just want to say that I've thought about some of the things I've said, and I'm sorry.

I'm not close-minded at all, and opinion is usually based on personal experience, and I stated my opinion.

I've said several times that I've no problem with people who aren't abusing the system. Hell, those people can do what they want. Most people work for what they have, and I commend it. Even with help.

I'm not saying that EVERYONE IS OH MY GOD LEECHING OFF THE GOVERNMENT. What I have said is "I know the woman who is and I wish I could tell her otherwise but I can't."

I know they make up a small percentage, I know that the programs do more help than goodharm (proofreading is hard :|). I. Know. This.

What I've said is my opinion is that the people who are abusing the system are the ones that should be dealt with. No one else, just the abusers. Is everyone an abuser? Nope. The ones that are.. the ones that you KNOW are and willingly TOLD YOU ARE.. are the people that I've been talking about.

And when it comes to my morals and ideals, I just meant that I wouldn't want to be supported in that way and want to better myself. Supporting yourself > others working to support you. My. O P I N I O N. I don't think myself better than anyone else, but I do agree the way I tried to argue my point made me so. Again, apologies.

There we go!

Essence of FFXIAH. Smells like cabbage.

Why am I the only one that needs to provide sources every post lol? don't hate.

At your leisure though you can look up how enrollment in the food stamp program has skyrocketed under President Obama. However, I won't be doing this for you.

25 dollars for what? rice? Come to south GA show me where i can find these big Deals you speak of. I've looked there not out there however in my inalienability to plan for ***while getting away from government programs I started a business and thanks to that business I dont need to buy meat for the most part,

I deliver hand made fishing tackle & hunting gear to my Florida nabors at discounted price compared to big bussiness, my reward for undercutting the compitition and being a friendlly face who hand delivers, want a fish? want some of that deer hog ect I have 2 deep freeze full of what is some of the healthist meat you will ever eat yet the government claim wild meat is unhealty and full of parasites ect....

Your just another one of those health nuts who know all about what everyone else need and has too much time on your hand to just worry about yourself. If you die of a car crash at 30-40 yrs old what was the point in all that living to be safe and healthy really for? Or better yet how about you come tell my bosses wife how healthy eating and exercise is the path to a long enjoyable life? Ill laugh when she slaps you in the face because she too was one of those health nuts until she had a stroke at the gym of all places while that left her unable to work or hell even take care of herself for the most part at only 34.

Now if i have misunderstood you i do apologize but to not be liberal you sound a lot like the chubby hater wife of your president.

You want healthy? Mr. Cook? Ever serve up Talipia? Fish native to Africa but farmed from china? Well guess what the majority of the US's Talipia resource is raised in the same ponds use to empty septic tanks yeah lets grab a bag of that over fish sticks.

Edit: oh yeah forgot to mention i did suggest action on the food stamp issue its called MAKE A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE DO THERE JOB FOR A CHANGE!!!!!!!

By the way, this is where we started:



And this is where we are now:



Comeooon, South Pole!

You mean how the food stamp program skyrocketed during one of the worst recessions in the last 100 years?

I'm shocked.

Also, where have you provided citations?

Worst Recession? Is that just gonna be the historical nickname for this failed Presidency? I like it. Has a good ring to it. This is why they have the reres ride in the back of the short bus, they don't let them drive it.

Edit: if you don't like the term rere, maybe you'd prefer Window Lickers.

Not to mention a slew of record-breaking disasters that spike up participation in assistance programs.

Amand, don't worry. Your feels are good enough evidence for me.

so many excuses lol. just admit he's a shitty President already and, here it goes, hard to say it but, you were wrong. You will feel liberated. Think of it as coming out again.

Chef's and some line staff in restaurants are *** insane. I've also had incredibly angry/weird managers.

Last restaurant I worked at the night manager liked to drink test the wine and take it to the extreme. Having trays come flying at your head while your printing out receipts for the shift is not a good night >.>

I worked in customer service/retail/retailmanagement/bartending/serving from 15-24 and I hope to never do that *** again.

You are *** joking right?

Thing is I'm going to have to for now because I don't have a choice, work and live.

I do plan on starting school, hoping to get out of the ditch I've been so far in for so long.

Wow, I have yet to find someone who said we didn't have a global recession.

I'm .....at a loss for words.

No, but you found someone that says Obama has dragged it out for five years. He focused on the job-killing Obamacare instead of the recession. If it was indeed the greatest recession, by virtue of it being the greatest wouldn't you think that maybe it should have been his primary focus? Just called the greatest now since he failed.

I usually just enjoy your posts and plus them, cause they usually get under skin of others, but this one, I agree with. Why was he not spending more time on Fixing the Economy instead of pushing Obamacare?????

Anyways back to lurking.

Obama and Bush followed the advice of freshwater economists by giving aid directly to banks and financial businesses rather than aid to people. So people would have disposable income to consume from businesses, businesses would hire people, etc.

Instead businesses sat on the cash. All those economists forgot that in uncertainty businesses are not interested in risking capital or allowing more leverage unless they receive a high risk premium. They had no way to quantify what they should lend or who they should lend to.

It was very much the wrong choice.

Somehow, I don't think you are going to agree with me though. Putting the money towards infrastructure projects, or R&D investment, or a million other things that would also benefit the country as a whole, instead they saved failing business models (after Lehman Brothers gave them the scare of a lifetime) because letting them fail would harm the market drastically for a short period of time.

Because you're the one spouting conspiracy theories? Seriously, I'm having trouble understanding how you come to the conclusion that anyone wants people completely dependent upon the government via the foodstamp program. I challenge you to present to me reasoning for that being the case without degenerating into conspiracy theories.

The reasoning is simple. Once people are receiving money from the government then they are less likely to vote for someone that promises to take it away? Kinda logical isn't it?

Edit: And this works very well for politicians that lean socialist.


"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Lol, I love how the deliberate Republican obstruction is conveniently dropped from the discussion.

What was the goal of half our government for Obamas 1st term? That's right, make the man a one term president at all costs.

I have my beef with Obama and his administration effectively being no different than a Republican one outside the social issues but try and at least be honest for a change.

if you give people things, they will absolutely keep taking until they are told no.

Damn, now we're back to:

You do realize the majority of people who voted for Romney were or are about to receive social security. Baby boomers, ftw.

You do know social security is welfare, right?



Yes. This also applies to businesses and politicians. A failing in humanity.