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By Shiva.Socrates 2013-05-28 02:37:47  
i see. well all this was a really big help. thank you!
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2013-05-28 02:51:04  
Front line is 前衛. Generally means any DD. (for delve it means heavy DD. 2-handers or mnk (or pup these days?))

The opposite, Back line is 後衛. Generally means any Mage or support (though you usually only see 後衛 used so generally in aby-exp shouts).
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By Shiva.Socrates 2013-05-28 02:57:12  
Any more tips?
 
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By Shiva.Socrates 2013-05-28 14:33:05  
Thank you all ^^
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By Shiva.Kelayne 2013-05-28 15:04:58  
A lot of times you won't be invited unless you speak conversational Japanese with IME anyhow. Who wants PT members that can't communicate? I sure as hell don't and I'm pretty sure a mass majority of the JP community don't either. Best stick to NA shouts if you clearly can't communicate properly.
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By sorge74 2013-05-28 15:43:20  
How do you shout back please use auto translate.

I don't need xenophobs in my party anyways.
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By Solrain 2013-05-28 16:57:43  
Shiva.Socrates said: »
does menapomorima translate to menace plasm?

Afania touched on it up there, but to break it down further:

Mena = menace
Po = plasm*
Morima = Morimar


* In Japanese, there are no single consonants, besides 'n'. Each symbol is made up of a consonant and a vowel (with a few exceptions but ignore that for now! This is a great reference). For example, there is no single 'r', only 'ra' 're' 'ri' 'ro' and 'ru'. There's also no 'L' in Japanese, so they use 'r' because when pronounced, it's sort of a cross between 'L' and 'r'. Putting all that together, "plasm" in romaji would be "porazamu" (or something close to that - I've never seen it typed out in Japanese). So they just take the "po" part which abbreviates "menace plasm" to "menapo". Same idea with "merit points" being shortened to "meripo". Or in more popular culture, "Pokemon" is a shortened form of "Pocket Monsters" (ポケットモンスター Poketto Monsutā).
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-28 17:16:56  
Menapo is actually a portmanteau of menace and points.

sorge74 said: »
How do you shout back please use auto translate.

I don't need xenophobs in my party anyways.
Don't take rejection so personally. It's just not desirable (depending on the event) to have members in the group that you can't freely communicate with.
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By Afania 2013-05-28 17:51:07  
Shiva.Socrates said: »
Any more tips?

When they look for jobs via seacom, they also put pullers(釣)
Healer seems to be WHM or SCH only, so they put recovery(回)

A plasm farm seacom often look like this:

メナポモリマー2戦

ナナ釣釣回回 アアア詩コ回 アアア詩コ回
〆●〆●〆〆 〆〆〆〆〆〆 ●〆〆〆〆●

That means only PLD THF DD healer spot x1 open I think. Their seacom also has special rule such as KI provider lotting first 5 airlixir, PLD lotting 2 and such(rules varies depending on /shout). They sometimes don't /shout at all, just put seacom up and able to fill up the alliance pretty quick.

That being said it's extremely hard to get into a JP menapo pt unless they're making it on none JP prime time. It's really easy to make a full ally on JP prime time and they WILL take a JP over someone who can't speak JP unless they can't get anyone. Simply because there are certain "JP FFXI culture" that most JP knew and followed, but NA wouldn't follow and JPs found it annoying. Sometimes JPs don't follow it themselves and if NA's in pt they'd blame them.

One example was VW, before SE added option to gold chest clear command you have to take out stuff manually. And JP pt tend to take everything out to speed up VW run, but almost every NA pt didn't. Once I joined a JP Pil run and someone didn't clear gold chest so it won't repop, and one JP in ally rant in JP(because he thought I can't read JP)"Outsiders don't clear chest", when it wasn't me who didn't clear.

I know it's certainly discrimination, but discrimination happened due to many NA players doesn't understand/follow JP culture. Even if you can read JP /shout, they may not invite you because you can't speak JP or they're just gonna assume you don't follow JP culture.

It may be easier for wildskeeper/VW due to lack of ppl. For menapo or delve NM, if your goal is to get invite, able to read their /shout or seacom won't help much, and there are really no short cut to learn JP and get invite except start learning it now and try to research and follow JP culture.
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