Official Benghazi Topic Till The Year 2018+

If Bush had ordered F-16's to "stand down" when they were going to shoot down the hijacked planes, if W had blamed it on a video from YouTube, and if the MSM had ignored it to save an upcoming election, you'd be FAR closer to the "exact parallel", and the "spoiler" was just a little too silly, wouldn't you agree?

I stopped reading and lol'd at "sheeple".

Spoiler was a bit dramatic, however the overall principal is the same. There was a lot of 'evidence' that the US knew we were going to be attacked, many documentaries, a lot of conspiracy theory, etc, and a lot people blamed all of it on the republicans who controlled the office. Hell, there's a metric *** ton more going against Bush on 9/11 than Benghazi on Democrats at this current point in time.

I just find it completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to pin it up on one party when they are hardly to blame rather than the entire system. If you want to attack democrats credibility, do it on any of the probably thousands of other actual factual points that is their fault rather than a terrorist attack that was handled poorly.

I think you're being trolled.

It would certainly split the vote and no party would have remotely close to a clear majority. Last two Presidential elections went what 55-45 and 53-47? Thats a clear majority. In your 4 party system assuming all 4 put out a viable person that was popular amongst their base you are looking at what? 30-24-24-22? Yeah that seems legit. Good god, go back to school.

you are a fool what about a centrist attitude, not a far right or far left view but a middle of the road? i like some liberal ideas and some conservative idea. The Centrist party would be the choice. OPEN YOUR MIND FOOL Stop thinking Majority Rules. That is NOT how this country works. and ANY body who tells you it does is confused. This is a Republic more than 2 points of view. Welcome to the USA

Where did you Graduate University of California, Berkeley?

Both parties are a problem, but one party has constituents that want weaker government and the other has constituents that want stronger government. What W knew and reasonably should have believed without the benefit of hindsight is a balance between conspiracy nutjobs and the assumption of 100% innocence. There is often "chatter", and most of what led up to 9/11 was under Clinton's watch as well. We KNOW that there were requests for added security that were denied, on the anniversary of 9/11 no less. We know that there were jets flying in (at least one) who was told to "stand down". General Ham, head of AFRICOM, was relieved of duty shortly after ignoring the "stand down" order. By shortly, I mean immediately. Now whom does a FOUR STAR general answer to? In the absence of a 5-star (which has been the case for decades), the answer is the President. Now, one can argue it may have been a proxy, be it Hillary or Rice or Valerie Jarrett or who knows who else. This is not known at the moment.

We also know that NOBODY thought it was caused by a video, and the idea is ridiculous. Knowing that, Hillary or 0bama (forget atm) told the family members of on of the deceased "We're going to get the guy responsible for that video". There is a special place in Hell for people who are that low.

We also know the media didn't touch it, and now it has been learned that the PRESIDENTS of CBS and ABC have SIBLINGS who work for 0bama in the National Security Council. There are other ties between the media and 0bama, but this is right out of a conspiracy nut's dreams, and it is easily researched.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/11/fox-abc-and-cbs-news-presidents-have-siblings-working-white-house-tie

ok so your 4 party system has been shut down so now you are going to go with a 3 party, k. Keep trying. This is good stuff. Pretty soon we are gonna be back to the Roman Empire.

Your ability to debate ideas is weak LOL

Bolded is a blatant lie. Wouldn't want anyone else to start believing that nonsense.

It is the truth Pleebo.

There is nothing to debate, your ideas are stupid. A 4 party system? Not gonna happen. Centrist politicians? There are plenty of them in office right now, support them. Insult away, its very entertaining.

3/4 of the biggest mouthbreathers on AH on the same page? Someone get Deces.

The video is explicitly mentioned in the original, unedited CIA talking points. How can you say that nobody thought that when it was part of the original intelligence? I cannot believe that people are still clinging to that ***.

I wouldnt stump for the Tea Party when you have their darling out there professing Benghazi was God's will, thus rendering the whole debate moot.

Not buying it. Not disowning a group of our best Americans because someone says something a little off. That's the idea, right? The Tea Party is to be abandoned at the first sign of trouble, but the DNC is flawed worse than that pathetic attempt at restoring the Ecce Homo painting and the liberals just hold on tighter, like an insecure girl holding onto her "bad boy" tighter the worse he is and the more her parents protest.

mhmm, thousands of people died, yet its only a "little off." Support the tea party as much as you want, its not like their flubs haven't cost the GOP elections.

It's not as though her statement killed them. Do you find it as despicable as 0bama or Hillary telling the family members of a Benghazi victim "We're going to get the guy responsible for the video", KNOWING the video was not to blame? The only reason GOP "flubs" cost us elections is because flubs are easy for dull masses to digest, and get broadcast through the same liberal media who think Benghazi is "no big deal".

Or how about describing the Benghazi deaths as "bumps in the road"?

blame the media as much as you want, seems to be a common defeatist tactic, its working for Palin right? its not like the media made up the flubs. As for the best Americans bit, they are going to be unemployed soon, look forward to that.

Original CIA mention you are referring to
We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and currently available information continues to be evaluated.


This is the same excerpt, four hours later:



"The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and currently available information continues to be evaluated. On 10 September we warned of social media reports calling for a demonstration in front of the Embassy and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy."


As you can see the original talking points do not say that there were demonstrations at all in Benghazi only that the attack was possibly inspired by a protest in Egypt. By the time they went public with these they knew there was not a single protest in Benghazi.

You know the Tea Party is funded by lobbyists and businessmen who have a stake in whether or not large government stays,right?





yea, at some point the Republicans have to go "OMFGSTFUBECKY YOUR RUINING THIS FOR ME!" and move on.

I love how he insinuates media puppetry too, That's amazingly rich. The media did not report on it because it was found to be a non-issue after maybe a few weeks and the reputable news media dropped it as a scandal hoax during an election. If it were a REAL "Scandal" Like Nixon:Watergate or Reagan:Iran-Contra the media would be all over that ***reporting the same correlations to those events.

INB4 "FASTANDFURIOUSISOBAMASIRAN-CONTRAAFFAIR!!!1"

What would the government have to do for it to be a scandal to you? How can it be investigated or questioned without you accusing someone of just being political? Would it be a scandal if the IRS was targetting left-wing organizations? It apparently is not if they are conservative organizations. It is not a scandal to you when the department of justice seizes phone records indiscriminately from the Associated Press and the Attorney General claims to know nothing about it?

I don't understand why you cannot be honest. I do not understand how you have no curiosity in these matters. You damage your own credibility when you are willfully ignorant.

Yeah... Like when Palin flubbed and said she could see Russia from her house... Oh wait... <--- Prime example of how liberal media distort reality.

Blaming the media makes sense because it is corrupt as hell. If you read what I said earlier...
The President of ABC's sister is Special Assistant to 0bama.
The President of CBS's brother is 0bama's Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communication.
CNN's deputy bureau chief Virginia Moseley's husband, Tom Nides, is the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources.
NBC/MSNBC is owned by General Electric... the same evil corporation who paid 0% taxes and received hundreds of millions in "green energy" subsidies.

Wouldn't you be suspicious?

I was referring to the citizens, but if you want to talk about the politicians, what in the world would lead you to that conclusion when you got liberal media darling Stephen Colbert's SISTER running against a GOP former governor who admitted to a scandal losing in a LANDSLIDE just before the current scandals hit their full speed?

No, It would be a scandal if it was actually scandalous and a legitimate scandal. This as a perfectly timed propaganda attack that shamelessly took the deaths of four US citizens in an embassy attack and paraded it around as if it was something that it is not.

Iran-Contra: ILLEGALLY procured funds to sell weaponry to terrorist agents to free hostages. <Scandal>

Watergate: Nixon breaks into an opponents campaign office to try to find dirt to use on him in the debate. <Scandal>

Theres many more that are actual Scandals but Benghazi is a NON-ISSUE and a NON-SCANDAL. It is being made a scandal because it was believed to damage Obamas campaign and it is being believed to damage Hilary's chance at a presidential bid if she was even going to run anyway. Yes, four people died in a terrorism fueled embassy attack. Yes, the government tried to use investigative tactics to keep misinformation on the subject from leaking to the crazy *** people that believe Obama is a Kenyan. Yes, they may have lied to do that. But *** no, it is not a scandal in any sense nor is it relevant unless you hold EVERY terrorist fueled embassy attack that you NEVER HEARD ABOUT (literally hundreds that the american public were never alerted about and hundreds of dead people) under EVERY ADMINISTRATION as a scandal as well. This is a lopsided, heavily propaganda and campaign sabotage filled, shameless use of an event to further party rhetoric against the incumbent president and possible presidential candidates.


Also, Palin was a *** idiot. If she had never opened her mouth or if Mccain had never put her on his campaign he may have very well won with his "I was a POW in nam man" card. She was blatantly uninformed and out of touch with how this country worked and how our relations with other countries work. Highly unelectable politician at the national level.

And no, i would not be in the least bit suspicious of family ties in an administration because you forget that some people have integrity and the links drawn to the media are coincidental at best. If you want to play that game, The Bush family owned a rather large oil company before and during both Bush presidencies, thats a bit suspect seeing as how they both did a lot of deregulation on the oil industry. I could make many parallels on his cabinet with a little research but again it would be HIGHLY coincidental.

If the shoe were on the other foot they'd be screeching to high heaven. Look at the fake outrage over Trayvon.

NBC/MSNBC and all of their pundits can burn for all I care, the rest of them are irrelevant. The President of such and such relative is the assistant to such and such, who cares. Let the conspiracy theorists enjoy themselves. I watch the news for reported facts, when the opinions start flying, when they bring in their so called experts to talk about whatever, I'm over it. Blaming the media and running to Fox News will not win elections.

Fair enough. I will rescind my use of the word 'explicitly'. That was incorrect.

That said, stop trying to veer away from the original claim. The claim that intelligence made no relation at all to the video is not true. When they say "were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo", what do you think they are referring to? They sure as hell weren't protesting against Walmart.