Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

And this is also a game.

I was hoping Runes would be more CE =(

Any one test all for one? Is that 30 seconds of invincible to all magic? Grants a Magic Shield effect for party members within area of effect.

Valiance Reduces elemental damage for party members within area of effect. The types of elemental damage reduced depend on the runes you harbor. How much reduced damage?

Liement Is the Absorbs elemental damage. The types of elemental damage absorbed depend on the runes you harbor. How much is adsorbed?my friend

I do want to play with shinryu for grins and giggles on RUN for the hell of it. As soon as I hit 99, yes for fun, like my buddy did with his pld and his new shiny golden shield...

Pardon my ignorance but what's CE and VE?

Their the different types of hate you accumulate. They each have an individual cap of 10,000 and are combined for determining who's on the top of the hate list. CE is culminate and only goes down when you take damage, VE is volatile and decays at a rate of 60/second.

Kanikan did a ton of research a long time ago, it should be considered mandatory reading.

http://kanican.livejournal.com/tag/enmity%20testing!

Cumulative Enmity and VOlatile Enmity. Cumulative decays from taking damage, Volatile decays rapidly over time.

Cumulative Enmity
Cumulative Enmity (CE) is generated when doing damage or using almost any spell or ability. All spells and abilities generate at least 1CE until a player has reached the cap of 10,000CE.
This form of Enmity is decreased primarily by taking damage and additionally by evading an attack via Utsusemi, being enfeebled, and by being hit with certain "hate-resetting" monster techniques.
Position on the hate list can be affected by doing things such as zoning and logging out; however, unless the hate list is cleared these will be insufficient to reset your CE.

Volatile Enmity
Volatile Enmity (VE) is generated when doing damage or using some spells and abilities (unlike Cumulative Enmity, not all spells and abilities generate VE) to a cap of 10,000VE.
This form of Enmity decreases over time at a rate of -60VE/second until reaching zero.
VE is harder to measure than CE because of this decay, but there are plentiful sources of VE for jobs looking to obtain it. Nearly every job in the game has easy access to high-VE job abilities, spells, or the ever-present option of just hitting the monster. The Provoke job ability, for example, adds 1800 VE.

Beaten by that much lol....

I realise it was most likely because you were in a rush for work, but you followed the bolded part by 2 of the worst punctuated lines of English, I have ever read. :D.

Looking forward to status ailment resist rate info though!

See, now THAT would be interesting stuff and a potential reason to choose RUN over other jobs. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes (and wish I had more time to get my RUN to 99 already myself).

Please don't take my questioning how RUN fits into the game as trolling. I just think that for people who want RUN to succeed, it's important to ask how the new findings are relevant to the real question of "why would a party want to bring this job over the alternatives?"

PUP RDM PLD can kill a lot of NMs too, where exactly does that leave them in the eyes of the overall community? Hopefully RUN can carve out a more meaningful niche that is actually allowed to come to group events.

Findings should be about sharing knowledge and experiences with the job since not every one could rocket to 99. Yes we have done study's on MDT would SE allow RUN with Traits and JA be like a Aegis pld and break the mold. Understanding how a job performs in many diverse situations helps us understand its place in the game low man, full party, and alliance. If someone has something to share more power to them because just because you didn't get something from it doesn't mean others can't.

If I can sleep walk during my next gun, for my mule, damn straight I will have a thf and a run along for the ride.

This is why we do testing, and what we do will influence what se does to the job

going to try glavoid tonight, hoping foil works, and also how much runes will be absorbed during casting

Man that quoting got mangled above, cause I know I didn't say that lol...

RUN tanks Megamaw Mikely like a Phos +1, for what it's worth. Double digit nukes were fun while leveling it!

no idea how it quoted you bad xiah bad

Good news everyone....

Because it hasn't been posted on BG yet, but Gambit happens to last 60 Seconds.

it's in the OP already, but ty

Anyways I've gotten the idea of RUN down pretty much to a T, just have to do some endgame stuff with it and finish some testing/see if anyone else finishes it before me to see if it fits anywhere before finalizing any sort of drafts for an actual guide for the job.

I honestly think you should hold out on the guide until SE releases mroe stuff for it, and because the guide will be so much more of a project to do than the other melee jobs (with the possible exception of BLU) because of how much the subjob impacts RUN's performance in basic situations, and endgame.

I am hoping for an Enhance "One For All" effect that extends teh magic shield to 45 seconds.

Gas powered stick.

After writing and maintaining the BLU guide, no other job could come close to daunting me. I need to experience what it can actually do before providing advice for it and even taking the time to bother making something for it though.

Prothescar, wielder of ye Mighty Gas Powered Stick... and RUN Guide-to-be.

Having taken a look at the Lunge Set, the Spolia/Opima gear isn't heavily crafted on Bismarck, and instead of Nimue tights, i'll most likely macro in Teal Slops, it's MAB+3 instead of +4, but it's readily available. Also, someone doubled the price of the Spolia gloves -.-

Couple of questions.

Which magian trial would you guys recommend is best for RUN? Ugh, I can't decide.

Also, this might be a dumb question but, think it's worth it to stack AGI for this job? Wiki says it helps evasion and parry but it has a verification needed icon next to that text.

STR Gsword and no

Did glavoid thf/dnc run/dnc whm/blm, the enmity being so messed up made it hard to hold hate off the thf, we let the thf die twice so we could test foil vs, disgorge. For the record, if foil is any real help, i dont see it, thf took disgorge for 8k, i took disgorge for 2.9k with foil up, but the dmg varies based on other factors. the fight was as simple as any other trio, the whm dc so i kept alive, absorbed a nuke for full health and floated till they came back np, we didnt have trouble till i purposefully took disgorge to the face, otherwise it was smooth

Rune definately lacks for dmg, but hopefully the new 141dmg 501delay gs will have strong influence on what run can do, if updates dont fix it first. Run can do this fine, but i think next time ill be on my drk instead

Also with the ushering in of Geo, def- stuff is getting more useful, so run's low attack may not matter so much in big group situations. Low man you're not gonna have all the def- ***as it takes quite a few folks to get it all together.

Also, make the enemy accuracy down one, for solo adventures!

Alright, since people don't like the enmity- on Spolia/Opima for the Lunge set and Khepri hands are unreasonable for most people there are only two possible alternatives:
Arcane cuffs
Menhit leggings (pretty awesome actually since it has magic burst bonus too, and Lunge can MB!)

I'm still leveling this so take that for what it's worth.

I'm trying to think of gearsets using gear I have or have relatively easy access to at the moment for intermediate/middle gearsets from the 'prime' ones posted in the first post of the thread. (IE: currently no legion or salvage 2 personally. I know they're things to work towards)

TP
ItemSet 294869

Kind of hypothetical set up if hybrid evasion is a thing. If not, everything to this set can match Prothescar's No Salvage TP set mostly.

Changes?
ocelomeh headpiece to nemetona cap (Meebles)
Houyi's gorget to ??? I don't do dynamis with a group so portus collar is out of reach at the moment.
Would ghillie earring +1 be a have to have for second ear? If you have an ethereal earring wouldn't that be a good choice here as well?
panthalassa sash to Twilight belt (if EVA not needed?)

WS (Resolution)
ItemSet 295206

Changes?
Thrandaut gear for hat/body is placeholder at the moment until I can actually get them.
Body until Thrandaut probably Loki's kaftan. I actually have no idea on a decent WS body w/out Toci's at the moment. (I've lost track how many Toci~less Pil's)
No hecatomb cap; figure either Thrandaut or nemetona cap? hecatomb leggings + augment: +2 STR +5 ATT Polearm skill +2; hecatomb mittens need to augment yet
(could be +1 if I reobtained abj.)

Lunge
ItemSet 295312

Changes?
General stuff like ammo once I have access from Meebles.
For this and fast cast/magic skill/ability sets is it worth it to macro in extra enmity in all the other open spots?

Fast Cast
ItemSet 295211

Kinda hypothetical. Could use a Nebula +1 body but they're sold rarely and that's a lot to drop for a fast cast body for one job :/ Figuring on Lux there for now for more enmity if that's a thing.

Midrange ideas/suggestions? Would midrange suggestions or the fast cast set be something that would be useful in the first post/guide eventually?

Run is not on witchstone. Nemetona better for Reso.