IiPunch - Monk Guide

Yes, in that gigantic wall of text spam, you need to be watching to see if you missed one attack, and then adjust WS accordingly.... All in the name of optimizing DPS

If you play MNK often, you can tell really fast when your Impetus stacks dropped. It's not only a miss in chat (tho you can spot that too with right filters and color settings with battlemod addon), but also your crit rate and crit damage drops by up to 50% and you will notice that really fast when you are familiar with your MNK.

Agreed that it should be fairly apparent when your white damage drops like a rock.

If someone wants an even more clear display, I also can't imagine it would be exceedingly difficult for the more coding-oriented among us (which isn't me, so maybe I'm wrong here) to write an addon to display when Impetus chains reset/current number of consecutive hits/etc.


This makes a lot of sense to me, thanks for your insight.

What is your opinion on how (or if) other weapons change things? In particular:
(a) Godhands
(b) Anything that isn't Godhands or Vere

Sure, now youre waiting an hour or more to do it again. Not the greatest strat for things imo if you can only do it once an hour. One hours simply exist to allow you to not deal with a single fight, thats what theyve always been, for the most part. (Or an oh ***gunna wipe button, ala pld/whm).

Yes, because Invincible can block those pesky spells and magical TP moves.

And if you have to use Benediction in a fight, you are probably not going to win the next one.

Your own argument falls apart against your own argument.

Dude, people use offensive 1hrs (if mastered, 45mins) all the time for the handful of truly difficult fights in the game where zergs matter. HELM/WoC/Kirin, some VD Ambuscades, etc.

People can also reset SP abilities through Escha/Reisenjima temp items, MMM or Revitalizers, Wild Card, etc. It's often well worth the time to reset to, for example, get a ton of Ambuscade points from a hard VD fight that works well with a zerg requiring 1hrs. An extra few minutes between fights to reset abilities can be the difference between being able to reliably kill the thing on VD repeatedly for FAR better points per hour than spamming the fight on easier difficulty.

Don't mind him, he thinks that WHMs shouldn't melee in CP parties because the DDs die in 1 TP move there.

Also known as; ignoring the fight and actual mechanics of the fight.

You can check page 242. I spent quite a lot of time optimizing set and checking various builds with various buffs using spreadsheet. Godhands is very good for Impetus down and ideally you would probably want to switch weapons for Impetus up and down, unless you SC with Smite.

Spharai is really balanced weapon and Final heaven is very good for Impetus down. You can also build a set with 39%PDT/27%MDT and 78% counter, but not sure if that has any real application :D

Sagitta also falls in balanced weapon category. Path A is like lesser empy AM with big bonus to stp and but you also get -10% damage taken.

Ambuscade h2h is good if you don't plan to get anything to R15.

Glanz is ok, but it's good performance doens't really comes from its augments to focus/dodge or mythic WS, but simply because it's AM3 helps with TP gain and improves WS damage because Smite really likes MA proc. It's also very good when you for some reason has VERY low pdif, because it's the only scenario when Ascetic's fury is good.

Again, a claim ive never stated.

Also known as: Being efficient in this game.

Something you have yet to try.

Bless your little heart

Actually, that whole thread is evidence that you know nothing about this game.

Not really being efficient, just showing one actively doesnt want to play the game and just skip it.

Also congrats, the link doesnt actually show what you claim.

2(1(.75))hours are literally part of the game....

Yup, that's exactly what it means. Pack it up guys, we can head home now.

Well, thanks once again for proving you suck.

Thanks for playing "Can Nyaarun Condradict Himself Again?" with us. Here's your parting gift, don't let the door hit your bum on the way out.

I play monk for Chi Blast mostly Chi Blast is seriously powerful.

I bet that you do a party chat macro every time you use it.

Does anyone have a mnk lua that works properly with impetus and body? I am having issues.

fone does. it chi blasts when impetus up.

I had the same problem with the ones I was finding online, they made it so overly complicated. I just added this into my lua instead:


You'd have to re-write one for every new base engaged set you'd make though. I imagine there's an easier way to trigger it for all sets, but I dunno.

To customize your melee set...


To customize your WS set.

Increase footwork duration to 2Mins!

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From this Victory Smite set posted on front page, what are the augments for Ryuo hands, Herc Boots and Mantle for BiS?

I was thinking the same thing a bit ago and came up with:

Back: STR+30, ACC/ATK +20, Crit hit rate +10%
Ryuo hands: Path A (STR+12, DEX+12, Accuracy +20)
Herc feet: STR+10 (or higher) ACC/ATK, Crit hit dmg.

Also I went with relic +3 legs instead for the crit hit rate since WSD doesn't help much with Victory Smite (afaik) and it's not a huge drop in STR


I'd be interested to hear feedback if this is in the right direction or if any changes are needed to the augs I suggested.

So, sorry for asking if it was already posted, but I just started with MNK and I'm trying to find what is BiS for WS, TP and whatever other sets MNK needs. Anyone mind linking them for me? Also, just VS is ok, or should I try to SC with other WSs?

Well this is pretty spot on. Tho I find those pants would be a bit redundant with impeteus up considering you would be able hit to if not 100% crit rate. I assume that’s why people go with the ambu legs. WSD as Minoot as it is when it comes to VS would still be better than the Crit Rate that offers nothing.

Now when impetus is down it’s a whole different story.

Have you checked the first page? It’s pretty up to date beside few relic swaps.

Good point, I see the redundancy. Is the begrudging ring redundant also then should regal ring be swapped in?

If attack is uncapped and you don't need the extra accuracy, Tonberry neck + Regal Ring should perform better than JSE neck + Begrudging.

WSD will also perform better in the Legs and Cape slot if we assume Impetus up.
WSD, as we all know, works only on the first hit of Vsmite. It has to be said that tipically the first hit deals a lot more damage than the other 3+ hits.

Concerning the cape I remember tests performed by Byrth some time ago (way before the 99% acc patch) that showed WSD+10% outperforming 10% crit in the cape slot even with Impetus Down, good luck finding those results within this thread though =/

Hizamaru+2 vs Hesychast+3 is a bit different, I dunno. +8 STR (and more acc) on Hizamaru, but 7% WSD vs 8% crit (and less att on Hiza if we're assuming uncapped situations).
Would need to be tested maybe.


Also I guess it depends on the Weapon you're using. You showed Godhands. With Godhands you shouldn't be using Vsmite outside of Impetus to begin with (unless for SC purposes) so I'm not sure you should even bother to question what to use with Impetus down, simply because you shouldn't be using Vsmite if it's down.

Even if you have Verethragna and Impetus is down, it can potentially be more beneficial to wait for 1750+ TP while riding AM and then shooting either Raging Fists or Tornado Kick (Footwork up).
I think SimonSes showed this. We have the habit of thinking that shooting WS as soon as possible is normally the best route to go, but at least on MNK and especially while riding AM that's not the case appearently, according to Simon's tests.


tl;dr
I wouldn't bother too much about Vsmite setup outside of Impetus if I were you, and would focus on gearing it up for when the JA is up, which means WSD/otherstats should win over Crit Rate+

Sorry, last post was supossed to quote this lol. I just made an account for asking here. Anyway, I can't find "Byrth's sets" and I was wondering if the Godhands sets for both Impetus and VS were different to the ones for Vere