Siren.Kyte said: »
I see a few of the typical worthless sarcastic posts
The entire job is basically useless so why wouldn't the discussion of monk be the same.
IiPunch - Monk Guide
iiPunch - Monk Guide
The entire job is basically useless so why wouldn't the discussion of monk be the same.
There are non-worthless posts every few pages that quickly devolve into "but mnksuxxxxxxx," followed by anyone who attempted to showcase some of Monk's more redeeming qualities giving up on communicating to the wretched denizens of this forum.
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MNK isn't that bad. People just like to be dramatic for attention
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fonewear said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The biggest possibly is they chose to use the fugliest model possible for a hand to hand. It could have been a blue cesti. Literally nothing is worse than claws model
I agree there are lots of interesting H2H design and they chose the most boring model.
I think the Mythic H2H looks the best...sadly not worth the invest just to look cool.
*Coughbestmodelcough
Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
*Coughbestmodelcough
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Reminds me of this for some reason.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
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Where did you find this
Where did you find this
http://www.megalomaniac.com/~andrew/funny/bloodcyber.html
MNK won!!! A kick Attack Neck!
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Parses aren't meaningful, because they don't represent all available information. Case in point:
https://youtu.be/l0udClEjcds?t=125
Relative to Phuoc's SMN, Primex's WAR did 23.7% as much damage. Does that mean we can claim SMN does 4x as much as WAR..? No, it doesn't. Even considering that his WS usage was visibly correct in the video and it's someone who was almost certainly geared properly, something as simple as unlucky misses could have skewed that parse.
https://youtu.be/l0udClEjcds?t=125
Relative to Phuoc's SMN, Primex's WAR did 23.7% as much damage. Does that mean we can claim SMN does 4x as much as WAR..? No, it doesn't. Even considering that his WS usage was visibly correct in the video and it's someone who was almost certainly geared properly, something as simple as unlucky misses could have skewed that parse.
Edit: Far too late post to comment on anyway, and I see what's going on in that video now. Still seems like a silly comparison regardless.
For one, he only hit for over 30k once, I hardly think that's "properly geared MS warrior" My RUN can hit harder than that, and it doesn't even get MS. (Not saying he has bad gear in general, but he was using Ragnarok, he was lockstyled, and you can tell he was either missing alot or wasn't even near attack cap.)
Not saying that SMN burn isn't more effective. It is, there's just no need to be so misleading about it.
So, in the interest of something related to monk and not just how bad it is...
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
monk is the drunken master!
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Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
So, in the interest of something related to monk and not just how bad it is...
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
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I would swap that Moonshade for Telos, Sherida, or Brutal. Then swap fotia belt to moonbow (+1).
If you are having bad luck with vit/wsd/acc/att augs on herc you can use AF/Relic +3 body and feet. Not set on doing the full vit/wsd route on herc, your HF/RF pieces with str/wsd will do just fine. Ken (+1) body also works decently for the multi-attack on it.
If you are having bad luck with vit/wsd/acc/att augs on herc you can use AF/Relic +3 body and feet. Not set on doing the full vit/wsd route on herc, your HF/RF pieces with str/wsd will do just fine. Ken (+1) body also works decently for the multi-attack on it.
Cerberus.Immortalmoon said: »
monk is the drunken master!
Even as a joke I want this to happen.
Just give monk some trait that if you drink beer/wine.
Monk becomes more powerful that is reason enough to justify it.
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Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
So, in the interest of something related to monk and not just how bad it is...
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
It really isn't that bad all joking aside just not great for what most people want to do.
I would love to invest more time and energy into monk...but I can't justify finishing Verethragna for a job I rarely get to play.
Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
fonewear said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The biggest possibly is they chose to use the fugliest model possible for a hand to hand. It could have been a blue cesti. Literally nothing is worse than claws model
I agree there are lots of interesting H2H design and they chose the most boring model.
I think the Mythic H2H looks the best...sadly not worth the invest just to look cool.
*Coughbestmodelcough
Is this still attainable?
I use relic knucks a good portion of the time. I have always had pretty good results with them. Do plan on dat red glow soon though!
Asura.Topace said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
So, in the interest of something related to monk and not just how bad it is...
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
ItemSet 359891
I'm working on monk next, thanks for this. Easy set to build actually. Just have to start/finish spharai.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Asura.Topace said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
So, in the interest of something related to monk and not just how bad it is...
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
Any monks have some Final Heaven sets they could post? Obviously it's not the most useful aftermath in the world, but for times I'd like it up, I'd at least like to have an idea of what set to use for it.
ItemSet 359891
I'm working on monk next, thanks for this. Easy set to build actually. Just have to start/finish spharai.
I still need to afterglow mine, but they seem promising.
Hardest part about that set is gonna be bringing monk to enough omen to get the cards, thankfully my ls lets me play monk. Also, assuming the herc is WSD + VIT?
Was there any discussion done on Relic +3? Some of the pieces look like they could be worthwhile, but it's hard to say.
Monk can function in every single Omen except maybe Kei, and in that case could be Chi Blast support (jk). No, but seriously. MNK does fine. GEO COR BRD MNK TANK WHM, boss will hardly get TP and your dps will be enough to take it down, albeit slower. Or just form your own groups/card runs. Average cards per boss is 2-3, so you'd need about 15 boss runs to finish hands from scratch (41 cards, so about two weeks to finish). If doing card runs, can get 3-5 per run (normally 4+ if you're not soloing objectives), so probably around 8-11 runs (1.5 weeks or less). Not hard to do at all.
I'd say it would be harder to convince someone to let you come MNK to Windy Dynamis, seeing as how the rave now is all about getting to wave 3. So unless you're pretty decked out, you'd be along for the carry. Thankfully, it's a one-time thing.
I'd say it would be harder to convince someone to let you come MNK to Windy Dynamis, seeing as how the rave now is all about getting to wave 3. So unless you're pretty decked out, you'd be along for the carry. Thankfully, it's a one-time thing.
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How well can mnk take hits these days?
They'd be using Kenda(+1) set, Moonbow belt(+1), and probably some damage taken on the cape anyways. I'd say they are just fine in taking damage. Of course, you'd carry around a hybrid set anyways and Chakra when ready. They take aoe damage around the same as a ninja, from what I've seen. Minus the shadows/migawari safety net. If its something magical like an Omen boss, use Dark Carol +/Fade and you have zero issues with Malign Invocation, Interference, and Meteor/Comet, which are the most deadly abilities and are dark based. Damage from those three would be double digits at best, if both carol/fade is up.
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Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
I still need to afterglow mine, but they seem promising.
Hardest part about that set is gonna be bringing monk to enough omen to get the cards, thankfully my ls lets me play monk. Also, assuming the herc is WSD + VIT?
Was there any discussion done on Relic +3? Some of the pieces look like they could be worthwhile, but it's hard to say.
Hardest part about that set is gonna be bringing monk to enough omen to get the cards, thankfully my ls lets me play monk. Also, assuming the herc is WSD + VIT?
Was there any discussion done on Relic +3? Some of the pieces look like they could be worthwhile, but it's hard to say.
Guessing all of you just completely missed my first post...
Bismarck.Gippali said: »
I would swap that Moonshade for Telos, Sherida, or Brutal. Then swap fotia belt to moonbow (+1).
If you are having bad luck with vit/wsd/acc/att augs on herc you can use AF/Relic +3 body and feet. Not set on doing the full vit/wsd route on herc, your HF/RF pieces with str/wsd will do just fine. Ken (+1) body also works decently for the multi-attack on it.
If you are having bad luck with vit/wsd/acc/att augs on herc you can use AF/Relic +3 body and feet. Not set on doing the full vit/wsd route on herc, your HF/RF pieces with str/wsd will do just fine. Ken (+1) body also works decently for the multi-attack on it.
Edit: On the topic of DT Hybrid set, You can actually get one that rocks around 1150 ACC w/o buffs with DT-39, PDT-11, MDT-4ish(?), and decent Meva.
Yea the Final Heaven Set could probably use some improvements. I never actually plan to use the WS lol.
As far as Relic +3 goes the Head is a must have. The Body is awesome for Idle and goes well with the feet in a Counter set.
As far as Relic +3 goes the Head is a must have. The Body is awesome for Idle and goes well with the feet in a Counter set.
Head: Weaponskills and Penance/Chi Blast sets
Body: DT, Formless, and Counter/Counter Crit Rate sets
Hands: Chakra and maybe Shijin sets depending on other gear
Legs: 2hr duration and VS/Shijin sets depending on other gear
Feet: Counter Crit Rate feet and maybe ws sets depending on other gear
Body: DT, Formless, and Counter/Counter Crit Rate sets
Hands: Chakra and maybe Shijin sets depending on other gear
Legs: 2hr duration and VS/Shijin sets depending on other gear
Feet: Counter Crit Rate feet and maybe ws sets depending on other gear
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