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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-02-02 16:45:45  
Since I've been getting PMs about this thread, I would like to ask everyone to limit the amount of bashing on others ideas.

I'm not saying you can't discuss, but if you start shooting down every idea you don't agree with then you're going to scare others off from participating sharing their ideas, and that isn't good.

Please understand that this thread is open to every kind of idea.
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By Carbuncle.Joeywheeler 2013-02-02 16:51:10  
Why improve? Make new ***, jesus.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-02-02 17:08:09  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
But the magian staves aren't the replacements. Lvl 51 staves have perp/m.acc and matt (and other side stats) all rolled into one, where as the magian ones are specific other bonuses (with very minor side bonuses like the macc+1 with the affinity+6 dmg staves). There are different magian staves for pets, and m.acc vs m.att. I don't see how these are the "replacements" when they are highly specialized where as the lvl 51 staves are a solid general bonus.
How many people are using magian staves instead of 51 staves now? By my definition that's a replacement. I understand they have there differences and it's not exactly the same but the majority of the 51 staves are no longer the best for anything. Regardless, I'd want blu on them, if you disagree that's fine.
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By Remora.Azildas 2013-02-02 17:12:23  
May or may not be useful but how about ... equip gear of our sub-job restricted to the sub-job level?
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-02-02 17:38:58  
On subject of "Add X job to X weapon"

Put SAM on Gandiva
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2013-02-02 17:40:45  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
On subject of "Add X job to X weapon"

Put SAM on Ryunohige
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-02 17:43:18  
I don't want a streetlamp on cor, I'm happy with my rainbow staff. Go away.
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By Bismarck.Diablosword 2013-02-02 18:01:29  
Remora.Azildas said: »
May or may not be useful but how about ... equip gear of our sub-job restricted to the sub-job level?
I've had this thought before, but off the top of my head, I can't think of anything worthwhile.

Did you have something in mind?

*Edit* That would be interesting in terms of equipping weapons... BLM/WAR with a Great Axe... GO!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-02 18:02:52  
*** yeah battle gloves!!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-02-02 18:06:00  
Remora.Azildas said: »
May or may not be useful but how about ... equip gear of our sub-job restricted to the sub-job level?
It would open up some proc options in abyssea.
 
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-02 18:09:08  
Wtf blm, brd, smn and sch on a gaxe, first time I see this!
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By Shiva.Moogleking 2013-02-02 18:37:44  
Improve stats for AV and PW drops thru trial of the magian.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-02-02 19:10:08  
Shiva.Moogleking said: »
Improve stats for AV and PW drops thru trial of the magian.

Am I the only one who thinks non-mission-related items (especially NM direct drops) shouldn't be touched by trial of the magians?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-02-02 19:14:36  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't want a streetlamp on cor, I'm happy with my rainbow staff. Go away.

It's a bird house!

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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2013-02-02 19:32:52  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
Shiva.Moogleking said: »
Improve stats for AV and PW drops thru trial of the magian.

Am I the only one who thinks non-mission-related items (especially NM direct drops) shouldn't be touched by trial of the magians?

If not magian, then at least scrap(or something) augments as was done with sky gear. At least there's a precedent. Be nice to keep those drops relevant even just for niche uses.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-02-02 19:57:14  
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I believe the way it works is that you have a chance to learn a spell upon defeat of the monster (provided the ability was used at least once) and not each moment it uses its ability.

inb4 the silver platter gif


Close, certain moves such as enervation and diamond hide are used by trolls, but you can't learn enervation from a Melee troll, and vice versa (used to be this way at least) plus if the troll used enervation (mage) and then used diamond hide afterwards (which can't be learnt from a mage) You then couldn't learn enervation until it was used again and you would have to kill before it then used diamond hide .....

Now thats a ball ache lol

[citation needed]

Yeah that's utter ***. You learn 1 move from the correct sub family in AU areas. They just need to use it once. The order in which they WS means nothing. They don't have to use the learnable move last.

It was believed to be this back then ~

Wrong yes but still, there was lots of theories thrown back then regarding blu spells, like stand on your head and you learn em faster >_> or stack INT gear. anyways!
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-02-02 19:58:09  
I would like HNM's like AV and Pandy warden to be changed drops.

Some of them are good but could do with being brought into the new age!
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By Bismarck.Danz 2013-02-02 21:55:49  
mog furnishings can be traded for a key item counterpart which can be used for moghouse decorative purposes only (or toggle moghancements)

i honestly wouldn't mind having a snazzy looking moghouse but don't want to completely destroy my mog safe doing so. this also gives woodworking something to do ^.~
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By Bismarck.Rorien 2013-02-02 22:50:56  
I think relic weapons need to have stuff added to them.

example.

guttler - make it a super bst wep. add reward bonus, pet regen. pet pdt. something like that. make it so that its desired and more useful

mandau. add TH2 to it..reward the thf who worked on it..hook the brds+ rdm up lol. add some agi/dex to it or dw bonus. hell idk. make it more powerful!

masa (cuz i have it and not amano) add some stp to it and a small tp bonus maybe 50
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By Bismarck.Rorien 2013-02-02 22:52:27  
Also, i agree with Danz idea. I currently have a MH restaraunt...but its eating up space i need for useless gear i cant toss.
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By Carbuncle.Nightmarelord 2013-02-02 23:23:34  
Sam on empy bow.

wtf se i need more reasons to go pew pew.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-02-02 23:31:43  
Bismarck.Danz said: »
mog furnishings can be traded for a key item counterpart which can be used for moghouse decorative purposes only (or toggle moghancements)

i honestly wouldn't mind having a snazzy looking moghouse but don't want to completely destroy my mog safe doing so. this also gives woodworking something to do ^.~

I think SE touched on this. Having your layout not take space in your locker or something.
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By Xellan 2013-02-03 00:42:36  
Rebalance Relic Weapons, here and hereafter with current and new jobs.

Blu: Excalibur
Cor: Annihilator
Dnc: Mandau
Sch: Mjollnir
Pup: Either Spharai as is, or, Spharai with a latent effect of DMG -10 while the main job is Puppetmaster. (DMG42 at 99, DMG38 at 95, DMG34 at 90, DMG30 at 85, DMG24 at 80, and DMG13 at 75.) If neither of these are acceptable, add a Relic Animator, with which the Automaton is given a Relic Weaponskill for each of the three main frame groupings (Harlequin/Stormwaker, Sharpshot, and Valoredge) and increased functionality. There is no reason why new relics cannot be added in this way to fill a void in the game and to properly "balance" the jobs. After all, the Relic Shield has set this precedent by being added later than the original implementation of the other Relic Weapons.

Please make Magian Trials for the Thief's Knife.

Please add multicolor Obis, Torques, and Belts. These clog inventory space the same way that elemental staves used to.

Add common sense processes to reduce the punitive amount of time currently required to change jobs and all gear associated with each job. There has to be a better way than the status quo.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-02-03 00:45:17  
Why would all those other jobs just get added to relics, and pup get dmg-10? lol
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-02-03 00:48:58  
Bismarck.Rorien said: »
I think relic weapons need to have stuff added to them.

example.

guttler - make it a super bst wep. add reward bonus, pet regen. pet pdt. something like that. make it so that its desired and more useful

mandau. add TH2 to it..reward the thf who worked on it..hook the brds+ rdm up lol. add some agi/dex to it or dw bonus. hell idk. make it more powerful!

masa (cuz i have it and not amano) add some stp to it and a small tp bonus maybe 50

All 3 of those weapons are already some of the best in their slot and should be sought as is.

I wouldn't mind seeing relics get an aftermath duration increase though. One minute @ 100% would make a lot more sense than 20 f***ing seconds. A few could also use a "What my aftermath does"-adjustment as well.

EDIT: And why on Earth would you want PUP to be put on Spirhai just to make its stats immediately worse than Verethragna.
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By Shiva.Viller 2013-02-03 01:25:21  
Please for the love of god stream line the login.. there should be no need to click 15 things to get logged in.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-02-03 01:31:44  
In-game items don't affect the log-in process and are therefore irrelevant to the discussion. I agree it'd be a good idea, just doesn't go here. :(
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By Odin.Ladyrikku 2013-02-03 01:59:40  
I don't think this has been posted but why can I use adaman bullets on my ranger with armageddon where-else when I change back to Cor I cant use adaman bullet with the same gun.
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By Susanowa 2013-02-03 03:19:57  
Not sure if this been post yet. I would like it if they can increase fishing ranking result to win Pelican Ring from 20 to 30 since there been many player now fishing.
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