(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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 Ragnarok.Evihime
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-07-08 19:11:05  
How's this compared to the max sets u posted?
Is what im using atm while working on plasma for Yaoyotl and K'Ring.

LR UP
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By Lakshmi.Registry 2013-07-08 19:35:34  
Ragnarok.Evihime said: »
Why that much stp on LR up set if u just want to 6hit? Wouldnt Ares hands +1 be better?

I think you need ~30 stp to 6-hit /WAR? (/WAR sets were quite a bit ahead of /SAM sets, plus you'll have LR up pretty much the whole time on Tojil)

The sets you posted are probably the best you can do without Yaoyotl; I'm not really sure what other accuracy swaps there are that don't significantly reduce dps.
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-07-08 19:38:24  
Oh those I posted were /SAM.
Cause saved me thousands times on Tojil.
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By Bismarck.Stani 2013-07-09 22:23:57  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
R3G1STRY said: »
I apologize if I'm missing something, but why bother keeping that 'x-hit' set in the OP? It's more than 10% worse than the set I posted, regardless of subjob. I also threw it into a spreadsheet to double check, it's 637 accuracy using Elvaan stats + DEX merits.

Also, while I'm paying attention and remembering (even though it probably isn't relevant anymore), the set you have listed as '7-hit /WAR' is supposed to have a Phos+1, not a Goading Belt. That's been bugging me for months.

edit: and since I'm already at it...

Last Resort up TP set:
ItemSet 307032

Resolution set (Oto+1 > Quauhpilli on active days):
ItemSet 307033

Just a general question. How come the TP set only has 13% Haste?

Dude, you have a like on a post wherein this was explained. In this thread. Which is a guide, which adopted said explanation for posterity.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/35174/dont-fear-the-reaper-a-dark-knight-guide/19#2301446

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By quilly 2013-07-10 22:58:09  
Is it true that Phorcys Korazin beats Rank 15 Miki Breastplate for Reso?
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-07-11 06:56:11  
quilly said: »
Is it true that Phorcys Korazin beats Rank 15 Miki Breastplate for Reso?
no
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-07-11 21:40:04  
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
quilly said: »
Is it true that Phorcys Korazin beats Rank 15 Miki Breastplate for Reso?
no

That's what I was told, because of the "Increases Weapon Skill damage" adding to the WS even more as you power up.

At what rank does Miki Breastplate pull ahead? Can anyone confirm this for sure?
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-07-12 05:33:59  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
quilly said: »
Is it true that Phorcys Korazin beats Rank 15 Miki Breastplate for Reso?
no

That's what I was told, because of the "Increases Weapon Skill damage" adding to the WS even more as you power up.

At what rank does Miki Breastplate pull ahead? Can anyone confirm this for sure?

The WSD+ only effects the first hit of a WS, so essentially useless for Reso.

Minkin can pull ahead at rank 0 if you need the accuracy (vs anything SoA related you probably do). Otherwise around rank 10.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-07-12 06:13:46  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
quilly said: »
Is it true that Phorcys Korazin beats Rank 15 Miki Breastplate for Reso?
no

That's what I was told, because of the "Increases Weapon Skill damage" adding to the WS even more as you power up.

At what rank does Miki Breastplate pull ahead? Can anyone confirm this for sure?

+1.4% ws bonus against STR and acc. Even on fodder mikinaak should be ahead.
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-07-12 06:30:56  
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
+1.4% ws bonus against STR and acc. Even on fodder mikinaak should be ahead.

Don't forget the Atk + 5%.
Unless we cap atk on these new mobs? Is the atk irrelevant?
I was under the impression you wanted as much atk as possible (within reason) to overcome the attack penalty on reso.
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By Asura.Solara 2013-07-12 09:20:29  
Asura.Kormak said: »
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
+1.4% ws bonus against STR and acc. Even on fodder mikinaak should be ahead.

Don't forget the Atk + 5%.
Unless we cap atk on these new mobs? Is the atk irrelevant?
I was under the impression you wanted as much atk as possible (within reason) to overcome the attack penalty on reso.

It caps at +50, and you'll have atk+ buffs/def- debuffs stacked on anything tough. You'll get a bigger boost from increasing your hitrate, and if you're above cap on acc you can swap food which is a much better trade off. The str on it gives the benefit of additional fStr and ws mod.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/108199-Random-Facts-Thread-Other/page8
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By Carbuncle.Warslane 2013-07-13 03:25:06  
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-07-13 04:23:59  
Thanks for the responses on Mikinaak. I purposely got it up to 10 by farming delve for Reso and was rather taken back by someone telling me that Phorcys was better.

Having trouble farming gil nowadays as I just end up doing Seekers content whenever I am on (with the odd dynamis or limbus to get gil for food and stuff). I have been using Mekira-Oto for ages now, been meaning to +1 it but always spent my gil on other stuff, should I get Mikinaak head instead?

Do Mikinaak hands have any use at all? Or is it more of a Beastmaster piece?
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-07-13 05:16:46  
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.

I don't see anything wrong but i'm eyeballing it.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-13 08:38:05  
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.


He said /war....lol
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-07-13 14:56:37  
Isn't /WAR only suitable for Voidwatch? Also does Niht Mantle have a use at all?

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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-13 15:02:46  
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Isn't /WAR only suitable for Voidwatch? Also does Niht Mantle have a use at all?



Its a touch behind Atheling with capped ACC. I didn't mess with fighters roll which would dilute atheling a bit but no its not worth carrying around.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-07-13 15:14:42  
What about Resolution?

STR+5 and Attack +15 beats Double Attack +3% surely?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-07-13 15:15:41  
Pretty sure that's what he meant.

Edit: For resolution, I mean
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-13 15:39:35  
Ragnarok.Sasiki said: »
For an attack starved WS like reso, that mantle should trump atheling I would imagine.




Delve Fodder

Atheling
Code
Gear
Senbaak
Duplus Grip
Fracas Grenade
Yaoyotl
Gorget
Moonshade TP
Brutal
Mikinaak R15 Str
Phorcys
Candent
Pyrosoul
Atheling
Ele.Belt
Mikinaak R15 Str
Whirlpool






5442
983.001



Niht
Code

Gear
Senbaak
Duplus Grip
Fracas Grenade
Yaoyotl
Gorget
Moonshade TP
Brutal
Mikinaak R15 Str
Phorcys
Candent
Pyrosoul
Niht
Ele.Belt
Mikinaak R15 Str
Whirlpool






5424
980.897




I'm sure there are senarios where it is better but is it worth it?? For me hell no, my inventory is already packed. Harder mobs you should be using Letalis, weaker mobs it doesn't matter.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-07-13 15:45:58  
I bet it will be one of those pieces of equipment that will come into its own as other equipment are introduced. I should go out and get one anyway just in case lol.

And yea, no Letalis yet ... who really does Meebles anymore?
I mean I love to do Meebles, but I never see anyone wanting to do it anymore.
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By Carbuncle.Warslane 2013-07-13 16:21:13  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.


He said /war....lol

Assuming /war meant that if the current Delve Tp Max set was meant for /war, and considering the amount of stp in it, I'd assume it is.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-13 16:25:59  
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.


He said /war....lol

Assuming /war meant that if the current Delve Tp Max set was meant for /war, and considering the amount of stp in it, I'd assume it is.


/facepalm

ofcourse that is what he meant, but /war is no longer a viable SJ.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-07-16 12:20:52  
Ragnarok.Sasiki said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
I bet it will be one of those pieces of equipment that will come into its own as other equipment are introduced. I should go out and get one anyway just in case lol.

While I agree with what taint said, this is more poignant. People keep discussing how weapons are going to get combat skill updates, and as a result it probably means Letalis Mantle will soon be a thing of the past.

Don't underestimate how much attack influences Resolution damage, fodder mobs or not. When buffs are down, the new DRK mantle will help even more.


Ragnarok.Sasiki said: »
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
I bet it will be one of those pieces of equipment that will come into its own as other equipment are introduced. I should go out and get one anyway just in case lol.

While I agree with what taint said, this is more poignant. People keep discussing how weapons are going to get combat skill updates, and as a result it probably means Letalis Mantle will soon be a thing of the past.

Don't underestimate how much attack influences Resolution damage, fodder mobs or not. When buffs are down, the new DRK mantle will help even more.


You just talked yourself in a circle. If weapons get Combat skill then not only will the ACC not be needed the ATT won't be either. So then its 3da vs 5str.

DRK is the last job in need of more attack. Resolution on WAR,RUN and lolPLD is a different ball game.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-07-16 15:01:25  
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Carbuncle.Warslane said: »
I have this set beating Delve ACC Max on spreadsheet, assuming /war.

ItemSet 300187

Someone should probably double check, I may have messed something up.


He said /war....lol

Assuming /war meant that if the current Delve Tp Max set was meant for /war, and considering the amount of stp in it, I'd assume it is.



I never said the TP Max ACC set was to be used with /war. Unless I'm confusing myself with someone else saying it was /war. Like Taint said, /sam is the way to go for Delve.

And according to my spreadsheet, that set with Armadaberk and Whirlpool feet seem behind in dps compared to the set in the OP, with delve fodder as the target.
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2013-07-18 08:04:30  
Has anyone messed around with Xbalanque math yet? I might do so later tonight if no one has, just curious how it compares to Bereaver and Senbaak (assuming it's somewhere between the 2).
Also just realized DRK was on Buremte Gloves. Looking at sets, they should be the best tp gloves to use when not getting Ares' Gauntlets +1's set bonus or when using Phorcys legs for an STP set or something.
Anyone messed around with those hands yet?
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-07-18 08:14:56  
It's tremendously behind both of them
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