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July Version Update...
Ragnarok.Anye
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5449
By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-06-09 14:54:32
I'd like to see PLD be able to merit Reprisal maybe ^^;;
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Asura.Zekky
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2009-06-09 14:56:22
Bartimaeus said: I'd actually like to see a crazy ungimping of PUP, and a nerfing of SAM, just so BG forums will explode. :D Oh god. {Yes, please.}
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サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 14:57:14
I think THF should get dual wield on their own, albeit at a higher level. I mean, when I think of a thief, I think dual daggers...just give them dual wield, even if it is only 65+ or something ^^
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Fairy.Tbest
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5490
By Fairy.Tbest 2009-06-09 14:59:13
Bartimaeus said: I'd actually like to see a crazy ungimping of PUP, and a nerfing of SAM, just so BG forums will explode. :D Nuuu... Sam's my next 75, dang it! >.<!
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Asura.Zekky
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3787
By Asura.Zekky 2009-06-09 15:00:23
Bartimaeus said: I STILL think NIN needs a non-merited JA that doesn't make them lolexplode.
Seriously, SOMETHING NINJA'EY. Give them a Tenchu throat stab tonberry style or something. Bart thinking about the NINs there... Good show, sir. Forgot about them. =d That would be nice.
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サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 15:02:09
Tbest said: Bartimaeus said: I'd actually like to see a crazy ungimping of PUP, and a nerfing of SAM, just so BG forums will explode. :D Nuuu... Sam's my next 75, dang it! >.<! Yeah, you and every other person that doesn't already have a 75 SAM. I think it is due for a nerf. If any job gets to the point where you see that same job everywhere, all the time, obviously there's something up.
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サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 193
By Fenrir.Phatstackodax 2009-06-09 15:04:51
pfft. i'd like to see my bst's rampage at least be equivolent of a war's ; ;
Midgardsormr.Frobeus
サーバ: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1498
By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-09 15:05:07
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Tbest said: Bartimaeus said: I'd actually like to see a crazy ungimping of PUP, and a nerfing of SAM, just so BG forums will explode. :D Nuuu... Sam's my next 75, dang it! >.<! Yeah, you and every other person that doesn't already have a 75 SAM. I think it is due for a nerf. If any job gets to the point where you see that same job everywhere, all the time, obviously there's something up. Aids. {You can have this.}
Fairy.Tbest
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5490
By Fairy.Tbest 2009-06-09 15:07:56
Yeah... But even after my Sam hits 75, I'll be using Mnk instead. lol...
It's really just a way for me to lot stuff like Askar that Mnk can't wear. >.>
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 15:08:13
Frobeus said: Xxnumbertwoxx said: Tbest said: Bartimaeus said: I'd actually like to see a crazy ungimping of PUP, and a nerfing of SAM, just so BG forums will explode. :D Nuuu... Sam's my next 75, dang it! >.<! Yeah, you and every other person that doesn't already have a 75 SAM. I think it is due for a nerf. If any job gets to the point where you see that same job everywhere, all the time, obviously there's something up. Aids. {You can have this.} Hey, it wouldn't be the first time. You guys can just join the club with all the pissed off Rangers.
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus
サーバ: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1498
By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-09 15:10:16
Screwing one job =/= must screw all jobs.
My nin is 75 too, so I've already filled the quota for boned over jobs.
サーバ: Kujata
Game: FFXI
Posts: 156
By Kujata.Malicfayt 2009-06-09 15:12:32
Got Sky, Got Sea, Got Land! only thing missing is... SPACE! Lightspeed Kenny beam me up, Im going Star Ocean on yall with my Thief skillz, BEAT S Mode ***!
サーバ: Unicorn
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1932
By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-06-09 15:19:56
Xxnumbertwoxx said: I think THF should get dual wield on their own, albeit at a higher level.
I mean, when I think of a thief, I think dual daggers...just give them dual wield, even if it is only 65+ or something ^^ Would have to be at least Dual Wield II or I'm still going /nin lol.
Fairy.Tbest
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5490
By Fairy.Tbest 2009-06-09 15:25:32
I dunno... I'd be ok with a high lvl DW I and subbing War or Sam on Thf.
DW + Triple + Double = Fun.
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 15:36:53
Frobeus said: Screwing one job =/= must screw all jobs.
My nin is 75 too, so I've already filled the quota for boned over jobs. Hey, I'd have nothing but sympathy for ya, but there's gotta be a reason why SAM is the DD of choice over other DD's. If it's not because it's overpowered, why is it then? I'm not saying *** SAM, I'm just saying, make other jobs just as attractive. If they accomplish that through improving those other jobs, so much the better...but SE will prolly just nerf SAM. That seems to be how they roll in those cases...
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Fairy.Tbest
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5490
By Fairy.Tbest 2009-06-09 15:40:06
Yeah, easier to nerf one job than improve a dozen. >.>
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1488
By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2009-06-09 15:46:20
Korpg said: SMN: More Avatars!!!! BLM: A Job Ability that increases Potency, but lowers MAcc (so we can bypass it with Elemental Seal and just have the potency instead :D) RDM: Hell no, we got too many worthless updates as is. Enspell II anyone? BRD: lolbrd BST: More jugs.......pets, not Mithra WHM: More use for merit parties, like some sort of Auto Refresh at 50 or so WAR: ......um......kill the Retaliation Movement speed - and put Evasion - on it instead k? MNK: More wiffs! SAM: More pwnage? How about a comparable Hagun GK that you can get for free? No more sucky SAMs!!! DRK: More reason to /oneself? THF: Another JA that you don't have to sneak behind the tank to give enmity? I hate it when I get SATA'd by a THF while I'm on BLM, I get hate easy enough as is. PLD: Sentinal version 2? I mean come on now, give me a PLD that can keep hate without voke? At least give PLDs something simular to voke!!! BLU: More spells!? So they can be more of a MP drain. At least give MP Drainkiss and Magic Hammer more potency. PUP: The ability to actually CONTROL YOUR DAMN AUTOMATIONS!!!! COR: The ability to not bust every roll.....sorry Mudbutt (private joke :D) RNG: The ability to not waste gil every shot? Unlimited Shot and Recycle just doesn't cut it, now does it? Maybe give them an ability to increase RAcc in place of RAtt? And the ability to increase RAtt in place of RAcc for those who are up-to-date on RAcc? DNC: Another Haste Samba would work it. Maybe an ability to have 2 Sambas at the same time would increase the invite rates up alot. SCH: Some sort of SS/Blink for them please! You could even make it Self Cast JA alone. NIN: Same as PLD. Maybe Uts:San also. DRG: .....wait, does DRG need anything? Except more party invites? If you're getting SATA'd by a thf when you're on blm ... you're doing it wrong. PLD have already proved to the end game community that they can hold hate without voke (see PLD/NIN) I do agree NIN needs a serious update. Either make it a DD or a Tank SE. Making throwing weapons useful, cheap, and able to do WS could help. Maybe a spell like reprisal that increases the amount of times you parry could help.
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 15:49:15
Blindphleb said: I do agree NIN needs a serious update. Either make it a DD or a Tank SE. Making throwing weapons useful, cheap, and able to do WS could help. Maybe a spell like reprisal that increases the amount of times you parry could help. Totally agree. I don't know why there isn't a throwing weapon skill, doesn't make any sense at all..
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Midgardsormr.Frobeus
サーバ: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1498
By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-09 15:56:09
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Frobeus said: Screwing one job =/= must screw all jobs.
My nin is 75 too, so I've already filled the quota for boned over jobs. Hey, I'd have nothing but sympathy for ya, but there's gotta be a reason why SAM is the DD of choice over other DD's. If it's not because it's overpowered, why is it then? I'm not saying *** SAM, I'm just saying, make other jobs just as attractive. If they accomplish that through improving those other jobs, so much the better...but SE will prolly just nerf SAM. That seems to be how they roll in those cases... Everyone says sam overpowered blah blah. I think its more of the fact that Sam fits the roll of endgame DD perfectly in the style of fight that most people use. Put a Sam vs a ZDrk with even just a Mkris and see how they fare in zerg situations. Other jobs have their nitch, it's just that in the current play style, Sam has more utility than other jobs.
Midgardsormr.Sahagin
サーバ: Midgardsormr
Game: FFXI
Posts: 156
By Midgardsormr.Sahagin 2009-06-09 16:04:56
PUP get's something now? plz? Like.. being able to make the automaton cure without deploying it on a mob? :D
サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4261
By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-06-09 16:15:56
PUP AI can be improved, SAM should get a demi-nerf since they were always great DD, adding a third more ATT to them didn't help any other job. In before I give a *** what people think about butthurt SAM nerfing. Other than that, most other jobs are balanced I'd think.
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Ramuh.Urial
サーバ: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 31068
By Ramuh.Urial 2009-06-09 16:19:08
Bartimaeus said: I STILL think NIN needs a non-merited JA that doesn't make them lolexplode.
Seriously, SOMETHING NINJA'EY. Give them a Tenchu throat stab tonberry style or something. Oh god yes please.
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 16:19:41
Off the subject of job nerfs/adjustments, I'd like to see Adventuring Fellow AI improved a bit. Maybe it's just because mine is only 50ish, but my chick is a stupid ***.
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サーバ: Pandemonium
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4261
By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-06-09 16:21:04
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Off the subject of job nerfs/adjustments, I'd like to see Adventuring Fellow AI improved a bit. Maybe it's just because mine is only 50ish, but my chick is a stupid ***. This is true. Mine is 68 and always hastes herself instead of me. >_> Setting certain spells to be toggled on and off by them would be great, SE!
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サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 16:25:26
Eternaltriumph said: Xxnumbertwoxx said: Off the subject of job nerfs/adjustments, I'd like to see Adventuring Fellow AI improved a bit. Maybe it's just because mine is only 50ish, but my chick is a stupid ***. This is true. Mine is 68 and always hastes herself instead of me. >_> Setting certain spells to be toggled on and off by them would be great, SE! Yeah, I'd turn off all her self buffs period. I level her in Boyahda Tree, kinda like a bonus to farming up there, get her some levels at the same time...but she spends her MP in like 3 seconds so she sits there and *** and does nothing cuz she spent all her mana up like a retard. I'm tanking anyways, so yeah, haste, paralyna, and silena for me, and that's it. Everything else, save the mana you stupid *** lol
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Fairy.Tbest
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5490
By Fairy.Tbest 2009-06-09 16:27:28
O.o This is why you either main or sub dnc and make your npc Attacker/Fierce Attacker style.
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サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5645
By Fairy.Xxnumbertwoxx 2009-06-09 16:28:32
Tbest said: O.o This is why you either main or sub dnc and make your npc Attacker/Fierce Attacker style. Well yeah, I'm main DNC obviously (since that's my only 75 lol), but I just worry that she'll somehow take hate and get one shotted.
The July version update is only a month or so away. in their description so far, SE has said that WotG missions will progress (fortunately/unfortunately no mention of a end date), job adjustments, and adjustments to MMM etc.
The point of this topic is to discuss what you may also have heard will be included in the update as well as what you would like to see added, implented, or changed.
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